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[Kel Riever]

I won't be buying anything BioWare, but I most certainly will be here, making fun of them. Cause I am entertained by the cultists!

Also multiplayer.  Because it has better writing.

Modifié par Kel Riever, 22 février 2013 - 01:40 .

[d-boy15]

you cannot fix something that beyond repair...

[DetcelferVisionary]

Destiny by Bungie is starting to look better and better. Thanks Bioware for helping me find "another solution" to chaos.

[Tron Mega]

norcalgamer wrote...

Good. I want them to leave. I'm sick of all the crying and whining. Their the toxic people that are making Bioware employees dread coming to the forums and talking.

The sad thing is people say one thing and do another. I see this all the time with other games. "I won't ever play again!" Yet so many of them do. It will be the same with the next game.

funny thing about what you said is that you already assume ME4 will suck and people will no doubt complain about its sucktitude.

which i also foresee.

[EarthboundNess]

I for one will not be disappointed. Sure the endings were utter rubbish, but the way there more than made up for it.

From what little we've seen, the next DLC looks great, and I'm going to really miss it all, what with it being the last one...

[Tekkez]

I need to see what they are doing with the next Mass Effect before buying. If they are retconing everything, and not keeping any of the existing lore/species/etc, then it's likely I wont touch it.

Bioware has lost a lot of my trust with this ending, but ME1, ME2, and some of ME3 were great games. ME1 probably one of my top 10 favourite games of all time.. the ME3 ending didn't ruin that.

One of my main worries for future Bioware games is their treatment on RPGs. They are slowly turning into movies rather than giving us options. Less auto-dialogue please.

[Sam Anders]

XavierHollywood wrote...

Sam Anders wrote...

I won't be buying the next game, whatever it is.

yes you will.

Not up to you mate.

[Nelatherion]

Arbiter156 wrote...

thats assuming 'citadel" does nothing to adress the ending, honestly i apprieciate the new content and it does look well crafted and considered, however with the ending as it is and the fanbase deeply divided the series is going to suffer, no way around that.

the simplest way for bioware to allieviate a huge portion of the Anti-enders grievences with the ending would be to add victory through refuse (followed by some scenes of your war assets and a epilogue showing shepard and Co's fate) far from a perfect solution but such a small change would pay dividends for bioware and its fanbase.

sorry to be a downer but thats where i stand.

thanks bioware for an amazing series, its a shame if it ends like this, if you want to leave it as it is i'm fine with that, but i doubt i could return and i believe the same would go for many of your long term fans.

sincerely Arbiter156 a concerned fan.

Wow, you guys have beaten the horse more times than Tesco.

Seriously, Bioware is satisfied by the endings, most of the fan base are (asides from the vocal minority) so why change it? It is the ending they wanted for their game.

Also, Victory through Refuse is impossible. If you want that lovey dovey ending then go watch MEHEM. 

[Texhnolyze101]

XavierHollywood wrote...

Sam Anders wrote...

I won't be buying the next game, whatever it is.

yes you will.

And how exactly do you know he/she will? do you know them? not everyone sheepishly buys something from a company for the sake of pathetic fanboyism and no i'm not calling you a fanboy i'm just saying.

[devSin]

Some, like me, no longer have much interest in this franchise and will not be investing in any future installments.

Others will continue to invest, and I imagine EA will find new customers as well.

Do what you think is right. Let others do as they will.

[Mcfly616]

ME4 will sell better than ME3.

[Undead Han]

I think the prediction that 'very few will come back' is far from the mark, regardless of how this DLC plays out.

The ending controversy largely died with the release of the Extended Cut.

[Texhnolyze101]

Nelatherion wrote...

Arbiter156 wrote...

thats assuming 'citadel" does nothing to adress the ending, honestly i apprieciate the new content and it does look well crafted and considered, however with the ending as it is and the fanbase deeply divided the series is going to suffer, no way around that.

the simplest way for bioware to allieviate a huge portion of the Anti-enders grievences with the ending would be to add victory through refuse (followed by some scenes of your war assets and a epilogue showing shepard and Co's fate) far from a perfect solution but such a small change would pay dividends for bioware and its fanbase.

sorry to be a downer but thats where i stand.

thanks bioware for an amazing series, its a shame if it ends like this, if you want to leave it as it is i'm fine with that, but i doubt i could return and i believe the same would go for many of your long term fans.

sincerely Arbiter156 a concerned fan.

Wow, you guys have beaten the horse more times than Tesco.

Seriously, Bioware is satisfied by the endings, most of the fan base are (asides from the vocal minority) so why change it? It is the ending they wanted for their game.

Also, Victory through Refuse is impossible. If you want that lovey dovey ending then go watch MEHEM. 

You have absolute zero statistics on who is the majority or minority in fact no one does Bioware included.

[Texhnolyze101]

Mcfly616 wrote...

ME4 will sell better than ME3.

And you know this how?

[Nelatherion]

101ezylonhxeT wrote...

Nelatherion wrote...

Arbiter156 wrote...

thats assuming 'citadel" does nothing to adress the ending, honestly i apprieciate the new content and it does look well crafted and considered, however with the ending as it is and the fanbase deeply divided the series is going to suffer, no way around that.

the simplest way for bioware to allieviate a huge portion of the Anti-enders grievences with the ending would be to add victory through refuse (followed by some scenes of your war assets and a epilogue showing shepard and Co's fate) far from a perfect solution but such a small change would pay dividends for bioware and its fanbase.

sorry to be a downer but thats where i stand.

thanks bioware for an amazing series, its a shame if it ends like this, if you want to leave it as it is i'm fine with that, but i doubt i could return and i believe the same would go for many of your long term fans.

sincerely Arbiter156 a concerned fan.

Wow, you guys have beaten the horse more times than Tesco.

Seriously, Bioware is satisfied by the endings, most of the fan base are (asides from the vocal minority) so why change it? It is the ending they wanted for their game.

Also, Victory through Refuse is impossible. If you want that lovey dovey ending then go watch MEHEM. 

You have absolute zero statistics on who is the majority or minority in fact no one does Bioware included.

But neither does any one here yet you are not nipping at their heels? 

Conformation Bias at its greatest!

Modifié par Nelatherion, 22 février 2013 - 01:52 .

[malakim2099]

Kel Riever wrote...

I won't be buying anything BioWare, but I most certainly will be here, making fun of them. Cause I am entertained by the cultists!

Also multiplayer.  Because it has better writing.

I might pick up DA3, admittedly. Maybe (not gonna preorder, gonna wait for reports). But ME4?

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. 

That would be, no.

[Arbiter156]

Nelatherion wrote...

Arbiter156 wrote...

*snip

Wow, you guys have beaten the horse more times than Tesco.

Seriously, Bioware is satisfied by the endings, most of the fan base are (asides from the vocal minority) so why change it? It is the ending they wanted for their game.

Also, Victory through Refuse is impossible. If you want that lovey dovey ending then go watch MEHEM. 

you do not speak for the fanbase.... i can tell you that it is certainly not a "vocal minority"  when the entire forums are swamped by ending related posts, when 50k people join a FB group, when $80,000 is raised for charity, when $1000 is raised in under an hour, when entire new forums spring up around IT, i can tell you definitely it is not a "vocal minority".

the exact percentages are up for debate but i would imagine it is at least 50% who are opposed to the ending to a lesser or greater extent and it is likely even more than that, if anyone is in the majority it is those opposed to the ending.

victory through refuse isnt impossible, there are 1001 ways it could be done, it just take bioware to pick a senesible one. 

[Texhnolyze101]

Nelatherion wrote...

101ezylonhxeT wrote...

Nelatherion wrote...

Arbiter156 wrote...

thats assuming 'citadel" does nothing to adress the ending, honestly i apprieciate the new content and it does look well crafted and considered, however with the ending as it is and the fanbase deeply divided the series is going to suffer, no way around that.

the simplest way for bioware to allieviate a huge portion of the Anti-enders grievences with the ending would be to add victory through refuse (followed by some scenes of your war assets and a epilogue showing shepard and Co's fate) far from a perfect solution but such a small change would pay dividends for bioware and its fanbase.

sorry to be a downer but thats where i stand.

thanks bioware for an amazing series, its a shame if it ends like this, if you want to leave it as it is i'm fine with that, but i doubt i could return and i believe the same would go for many of your long term fans.

sincerely Arbiter156 a concerned fan.

Wow, you guys have beaten the horse more times than Tesco.

Seriously, Bioware is satisfied by the endings, most of the fan base are (asides from the vocal minority) so why change it? It is the ending they wanted for their game.

Also, Victory through Refuse is impossible. If you want that lovey dovey ending then go watch MEHEM. 

You have absolute zero statistics on who is the majority or minority in fact no one does Bioware included.

But neither does any one here yet you are not nipping at their heels? 

Conformation Bias at its greatest!

You obviously missed the part of my post where i said NO ONE does.

[Cainhurst Crow]

You say that like fans wouldn't have left with a bitter taste anyway.

[Mcfly616]

101ezylonhxeT wrote...

Mcfly616 wrote...

ME4 will sell better than ME3.

And you know this how?

ME2 sold better than ME1. ME3 sold better than ME2.


Seems logical.....

[kyban]

The Mad Hanar wrote...

Lookout1390 wrote...

ME4: Generic space marine #2349456/regen health/cover-based shooter the game.

Product not yet rated

Mass Effect has always had regenerating health and it has always been cover-based.

Also, Shepard has always been a generic stock hero.

Blasto for the mindblow.

[frostajulie]

Bioware lost me to Bethesda their DLC is heaps better in terms of content and added story and gameplay, I barely even miss the character interaction I use to prize so much. and while the story may not be as epic or gripping at least I can win the game.

As part of the vocal minority a refuse win would have done everything to make me ok with the game even if it meant it was only possible with high ems as it stands now, I just come back occasionally when I get sick of trying out new mods for Skyrim and my hand starts to hurt and eyes hurt from the computer strain.

DA3 nah I'll wait to get it on sale, ME4 thats a joke with a failed punchline as long as ME3 stands with its pisspoor ending.

[o Ventus]

Wayning_Star wrote...

Maybe this DLC will be that story the stargazer mentioned. Anything can happen in speculative fiction.

1. This isn't speculative fiction.

2. Tell me you're joking.

[Undead Han]

Arbiter156 wrote...

Nelatherion wrote...

Arbiter156 wrote...

*snip

Wow, you guys have beaten the horse more times than Tesco.

Seriously, Bioware is satisfied by the endings, most of the fan base are (asides from the vocal minority) so why change it? It is the ending they wanted for their game.

Also, Victory through Refuse is impossible. If you want that lovey dovey ending then go watch MEHEM. 

you do not speak for the fanbase.... i can tell you that it is certainly not a "vocal minority"  when the entire forums are swamped by ending related posts, when 50k people join a FB group, when $80,000 is raised for charity, when $1000 is raised in under an hour, when entire new forums spring up around IT, i can tell you definitely it is not a "vocal minority". 

 

That was all prior to the release of the Extended Cut.

How many people hated the original endings but thought the EC addressed enough of their major concerns that they moved on?

Most post-EC polls with a good sample size had a larger section of the fanbase voting that they either liked or were satsified with the Extended Cut endings, than those who voted that they dere disatisfied or hated them.

I also hated the original endings, but moved on after the EC. While the post-EC endings still have some flaws, I thought the EC addressed enough of my major complaints that I think the series was salvaged.