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[l7986]

Probably not enough money to be made off the Wii U.

[EDarkness]

That's the thing, this is a self-fulling prophecy. The main reason I didn't buy the Wii U version was because the Trilogy was announced for the PS3 not long after the we got real information about the Wii U version. I was mainly gonna buy it to support Bioware's efforts to branch out, but not at full price and only a third of the game. This is why other people I know didn't buy it and actually are sitting on the fence in hopes of EA/Bioware announcing the Trilogy for the Wii U.

However, the Wii U version lacking features doesn't help people purchase that version of the game and the lack of DLC doesn't help either. I know people who own the Wii U version and are plenty upset about it. My feeling about it as a gamer is simple. Why release a version of the game and not fully support it? I felt the same way about Skyrim on the PS3. Those guys didn't deserve to get the shaft. Neither do Wii U owners.

In this case, I feel like Bioware as been generally good to the players. The ending of Mass Effect 3 may have been controversial, but I thought they handled it well and ultimately gave players a free ending to the game which couldn't have been cheap. The same thing should be happening here. These guys and gals purchased their game for good or ill and they deserve the same game the rest of us are getting. The assets have already been made so the conversion shouldn't cost that much.

People aren't buying the game because it's missing features and isn't the trilogy, and maybe EA doesn't want to support the game because not a lot of people bought it. It's an endless cycle. Bioware can and should do the right thing and get Wii U owners the DLC. It's not like the DLC is free or anything, they'd still have to pay for it, but at least it would be available and I'm sure the good word of mouth would do good things for the company and the playerbase. It's just good PR.

[Saturamas]

EDarkness wrote...

Revenant24 wrote...

Because get a real system.

This is not helping the discussion at all.  Take that system wars BS someplace else.  As gamers we should all be against the way this is going.  I'm a PC Mass Effect player and the lack of DLC on the Wii U doesn't affect me in the least, but I think as a gamer this situation is wrong and all of the versions of the game should be properly served.

Totally agree with your comment but you obviously fell into a troll trap here.No need to get worked up at "constructive" replies like Revenant's.Everybody should get the same support.

[Cyrax86]

@EDarkness

how can you compare Skyrim PS3, to the Wii U not getting Dlc. not getting Dlc was the least of my problems with Skyrim, i couldn't play more than a 1 hour before my system would crash, npcs not showing up, not being able to finish quests, or the worst one losing 100+ hour saves due to corruption to save files. This is no were near that.

The next Dlc is around 4gb(can't remember exact amount), X-Box is getting 2 downloads instead of 1 like PS3 and PC. We don't know if Nin. has limitations on file size or restrictions on Dlc. You don't know if its coming at a later date or at all, you don't know the reason its not coming to the Wii U, yet you quickly blame BW.



Exclusive Dlc is a bad, even timed Dlc, i hope this gets sorted out.

[shepskisaac]

john_sheparrd wrote...

Revenant24 wrote...

Because get a real system.

What is this, GameFAQs?

Wii U users should get all DLCs just like everyone else. And since Microsoft no longer holds any publishing rights to ME1, they should also get ME1 & ME2 in Trilogy edition.

[Epsilon330]

It's possible that Bioware don't know how to port it. ME3U was done by a third party, after all.
And yes, it arrived too late to the game to be considered a major contribution. Given how Bioware Edmonton have moved on, I don't see them delaying future projects to pander to such a tiny demographic.

[CroGamer002]

Because Bioware forgot they made ME3 on Wii U.

[EDarkness]

Cyrax86 wrote...

@EDarkness

how can you compare Skyrim PS3, to the Wii U not getting Dlc. not getting Dlc was the least of my problems with Skyrim, i couldn't play more than a 1 hour before my system would crash, npcs not showing up, not being able to finish quests, or the worst one losing 100+ hour saves due to corruption to save files. This is no were near that.

The next Dlc is around 4gb(can't remember exact amount), X-Box is getting 2 downloads instead of 1 like PS3 and PC. We don't know if Nin. has limitations on file size or restrictions on Dlc. You don't know if its coming at a later date or at all, you don't know the reason its not coming to the Wii U, yet you quickly blame BW.



Exclusive Dlc is a bad, even timed Dlc, i hope this gets sorted out.

The Skyrim situation was terrible.  It's a case of the game having issues and the devs/publisher not wanting to do anything about.  It's not good for the players at all and in my mind this is the same thing.  One of the key points of buying Mass Effect is getting getting all the addon content.  It's important and a key part of the experience.  Even thinking about multiplayer, the Wii U version is missing all of the new content we've gotten including the collectors and all the new stuff that came with it.  The players of the Wii U version haven't gotten anything.  So while the rest of us are enjoying all the new maps, and single player DLC, the Wii U guys are getting nothing.

Also, I'm blaming Bioware because other games have DLC and patches.  Even if the Wii U version was getting only the free multiplayer maps and content that would still be something.  Call of Duty has gotten patches and content adjustments as well as other games...for free.  And games like Assassin's Creed 3 have gotten all the new paid DLC and the latest DLC for the game is 1.5GB and as far as I know there's no limit to the size of the DLC.  So if other companies can get it done, why can't EA/Bioware?  Bioware has done absolutely nothing for the Wii U community at this point.  It's like they don't exist, and that's just not cool.

There are all of these rumors going around about the situation and I think everyone would be happier if Bioware would simply be straight with people about what they're getting with the Wii U game.  But if they had no intention of giving Wii U owners a good complete game, then why would they even bother in the first place?  It's just wrong that everyone else is getting the most out of their game, but Wii U guys aren't.  I'm just not going to believe that Nintendo is being uncooperative when other companies are getting it done.

I just want to see everyone get the most out of the game, because it not only helps a series that I like (Mass Effect), but also leaves people with a positive opinion of a company I happen to like.  Like I said, Bioware has always struck me as being about the gamer, but this current situation just goes against all of that.

Epsilon330 wrote...

It's possible that Bioware don't know how to port it. ME3U was done by a third party, after all.
And
yes, it arrived too late to the game to be considered a major
contribution. Given how Bioware Edmonton have moved on, I don't see them
delaying future projects to pander to such a tiny demographic.

I can understand that, but that just brings us back to the question of why did they even port the game if they had no desire to support it?  The players deserve an answer to this.  It seems only fair.

Modifié par EDarkness, 22 février 2013 - 01:26 .

[Test Subject 58]

Because you shouldn't be rewarded with DLCs when you made a bad purchasing decision.

Modifié par Test Subject 58, 22 février 2013 - 01:37 .

[jonman21]

I'm surprised no one's mentioned this potential reason yet --

I'm guessing WiiU wasn't considered because only ME3 was released on WiiU - not the first two. While you do get the Genesis2 comic to make big-scaled decisions before the WiiU playthrough of ME3, you don't have the same experience of getting to know the characters from ME1 and ME2 that the other console/PC users have. Since a big part of the Citadel DLC announcement focuses on spending time with your old ME1 and ME2 crewmates (and rekindling romances, etc.) - there just isn't that big of an audience for that for WiiU users who were only able to jump in on the franchise in the 3rd game.

Just my two cents.

Modifié par jonman21, 22 février 2013 - 05:23 .

[Kitten Tactics]

Because the Wii U has a minuscule install base, and they probably think the amount of money it would cost to port it to the Wii U would not be recovered by the number of people who will download it. The console sold 1/6 as many units in January as the 7-year-old Xbox 360, there's no money to be made by catering to it, and they are a business.

Your best hope is to keep your fingers crossed for an expansion disc that has your missing DLC.

[BD Manchild]

Wow, you can really tell who the spacktards are by looking at this thread.

As to the OP, probably a decision based purely on numbers rather than actually giving people what they want. EA probably figures the WiiU's userbase isn't big enough to justify the cost of releasing it. Mind you, Nintendo's quality control may also be tighter; I don't think any sensible person would have let something as bugged as Omega get released.

Personally, I always felt it was a big mistake to release ME3 on the WiiU, especially at the same time as the trilogy bundle. Why didn't they make a WiiU version of the trilogy set instead?

Modifié par BD Manchild, 22 février 2013 - 05:44 .

[Kitten Tactics]

I wouldn't be surprised if it happens eventually, but there's no install base right now. The only thing that will bring the trilogy to Wii U is good sales of ME3 on Wii U.

[Masterdramon]

Test Subject 58 wrote...

Because you shouldn't be rewarded with DLCs when you made a bad purchasing decision.

You shouldn't stereotype.

I have no idea how representative my experience with the "Mass Effect" franchise has been, but I'd like to think I speak for a decent number of Wii U owners here.

I owned one console in the previous generation - which was the Wii. It was the cheapest, I enjoyed the control scheme and the ability to share the experience with my family, and its exclusives (Zelda, Mario, Metroid, etc.) were the most important ones to me.

So I sat the other consoles out. This was my own decision that I wasn't always happy with, but I simply didn't have the time or money to own multiple consoles.

When the Wii U was announced, however, I'm sure that I wasn't the only such Wii owner to be pleased that there was now a way to play games on parity with the other consoles, without sacrificing my enjoyment of the Wii Remote or the Nintendo exclusives. And since one of the launch titles was ME3, an entry in a series I'd long admired from afar, I was even more excited to finally not be left behind in the experience of blockbuster games.

The lack of the first two games in any form on the system mystified me, but ultimately I shrugged and plopped down the money for them on Steam. Now, my PC is nowhere near gaming-quality, and I played them with some obnoxiously bad slowdown and graphical errors that covered every single human face in ME2 with black triangles. But I played them all the same, and fell completely in love with the story, characters, and gameplay.

Still, I was greatly looking forward to playing the final entry in crisp, good-running HD. And on that front at least, ME3 on the Wii U did not disappoint.

Now, consider my situation (and the situation of others like me) for a moment. If I want to play ME3, should I (A) play it on PC for a horrendously downgraded experience, ( purchase another company's system (or a new PC) for an exhorbitant cost just to play one game, or © purchase it on the new system I'm getting anyway?

© may not be the greatest purchasing decision ever made, but it's the best one available in this scenario.

Here's the thing, EA: this is the only version of "Mass Effect 3" that I am currently capable of owning...or at least, that makes sense to own. I enjoy the hell out of it and would love to support it more. But I am not given that option.

The infrastructure for "Leviathan," "Omega," "Citadel," and the missing multiplayer packs is right there. Nintendo intends to release an entirely new campaign for NSMBU later this year, so file size wouldn't seem to be the issue. And as noted above, ACIII and JD4 both indicate that Nintendo is not an overwhelmingly difficult partner to work with on this front. Getting DLC through the eShop for both games is quick and painless.

I paid 60 dollars for an inferior version of a fantastic game, because that was the only version I was allowed. Many of us did. Perhaps we aren't inordinately numerous, but for the product you gave us, the fact that so many of us purchased it at all is a miracle.

And we deserve more than to be spit upon in this manner.

I want to spend more money on the Mass Effect franchise. By all means, EA...take that money.

After everything else, it is an option our community deserves.

[Cyrax86]

@EDarkness

The Skyrim situation was much worse, no Dlc, no patches and a potential to damage your PS3. We bought a game we couldn't play.


The point i tried to make is that, their might be several reasons why the Dlc is not coming to the Wii U.

AC3 Dlc is 1.5 gigs, ME3 Dlc is near 4, XB requires 2 separate downloads for the next Dlc, PS3 and PC require only 1 as they don't have a size limit on Dlc. Another thing is that ME3U sold poorly compared to the other two consoles. I'll give you an example, PS3 owners bought 100k(not actual amount sold) copies of ME3, now not everyone plays online or buys Dlc, so you can't expect 100k PS3 ME3 owners to buy that Dlc, that number drops. Wii U only sold 30k?(not sure), if you take what i said earlier and apply it to the ME3U, those numbers become miniscule, BW would probably take a loss on it, since porting takes time and money. Same goes for ME3 mp.

[Haargel]

I guess it's because ME3 sales for the Wii-U are extremely dissapointing.

I dont think they even sold 50k copies. Read that in an article somewhere, cannot find the source.

[Eterna]

Haargel wrote...

I guess it's because ME3 sales for the Wii-U are extremely dissapointing.

I dont think they even sold 50k copies. Read that in an article somewhere, cannot find the source.

Yeah this, and honestly, what did they expect? Nintendo fans aren't suddenly going to become Mass Effect fans.

[Masterdramon]

Eterna5 wrote...
Yeah this, and honestly, what did they expect? Nintendo fans aren't suddenly going to become Mass Effect fans.

I wouldn't put it like this. "Mass Effect" is fun, action-packed, story-driven, and generally a joy to experience. There's hardly anything about "Nintendo fans" that would make us inherently hostile to such a series.

No, while I am hardly surprised by the lack of sales of the "Special Edition," I place (at least the brunt of) the blame squarely at the feet of EA for releasing an inferior product. That they could commit such a lazy port and then be surprised that it didn't sell well continues to boggle my mind.

Had they put out a port of Trilogy with the ability to purchase all DLC (both to date and going forward) instead, I have little doubt it would've been one of the best-selling launch titles, period.

But since they didn't...frankly, I can't blame my fellow Wii U owners for passing on the game.

Still, for the 30K-50K of us who did plop down the $60 (I'll assume that number is accurate, and it does seem to approximately gel with my experience with the multiplayer community)...well, we'd kinda just like EA to remember we exist.

And clearly, we do have money to burn.

Modifié par Masterdramon, 23 février 2013 - 11:35 .

[EDarkness]

Cyrax86 wrote...

@EDarkness

The Skyrim situation was much worse, no Dlc, no patches and a potential to damage your PS3. We bought a game we couldn't play.


The point i tried to make is that, their might be several reasons why the Dlc is not coming to the Wii U.

AC3 Dlc is 1.5 gigs, ME3 Dlc is near 4, XB requires 2 separate downloads for the next Dlc, PS3 and PC require only 1 as they don't have a size limit on Dlc. Another thing is that ME3U sold poorly compared to the other two consoles. I'll give you an example, PS3 owners bought 100k(not actual amount sold) copies of ME3, now not everyone plays online or buys Dlc, so you can't expect 100k PS3 ME3 owners to buy that Dlc, that number drops. Wii U only sold 30k?(not sure), if you take what i said earlier and apply it to the ME3U, those numbers become miniscule, BW would probably take a loss on it, since porting takes time and money. Same goes for ME3 mp.

I'm not going to quantify "worse", because each situation is different for each person.  Either way, both situations are bad and not good for the player.  It doesn't matter which one is worse than the other.

Still, regardless of how many copies sold, those people still bought their game and deserve support.  Doesn't matter if only 1000 people purchased the game, that's still 1000 people who paid their money under the impression they were going to get treated the same as everyone else.  If Bioware had no intention of supporting this group of players, they should have never ported the game in the first place.  If all the other gamers on other systems are getting support, then it stands to reason that Wii U owers would be expecting to get the same treatment.  Considering that Bioware isn't pulling the game from the shelf, then that means every day someone else is getting the game and they're going to find out that the $60 they paid won't net them the same experience as everyone else.

Bioware took a loss on the ending DLC because they felt like they should support their fans.  Wii U owners are their fans too and they're getting the short end of the stick.  It doesn't matter if the userbase is 1 or 1 million, the fact of the matter is they paid, and they deserve support just like everyone else.  It's really that simple.

If Bioware doesn't want to give Wii U owners any support, then they need to explain why and accept the consequences of being up front with everyone.  At least then people can make the right call, even though the Wii U version's sales may suffer for it.  It just seems underhanded to be leading people on like this when other games are giving Wii U gamers the full experience.

Eterna5 wrote...

Yeah this, and honestly, what did they expect? Nintendo fans aren't suddenly going to become Mass Effect fans.

Well, think about this logically.  Bioware sabotaged their own game with the announcement of the Trilogy for the PS3 not long before the Wii U version was released.  Why would the masses jump on the Wii U version when the Trilogy was available for every other system?  It just didn't make any sense.  Not only that, but there's still the possibility that the Trilogy will make it to the Wii U at some point, so naturally people would hold out.  They should have had the Trilogy ready to go for the Wii U at the same time the PS3 version was released.  At least then people would feel like they were getting the full package.  Not sure what Bioware was expecting and I feel like the Wii U version of the game was simply some cash grab to take money from folks without giving them anything in return.  Personally, I'm willing to overlook this situation as long as the Wii U guys get all of the add on content for ME 3.  If they don't, then the idea that ME 3 was simply a cash grab is true and it makes me wary about purchasing their games in the future. 

If they don't care about their players, then why should we care about their games?  At some point there has to be some accountability.  Bioware is always talking about how they're for the players of their games, and if that is true, then they'll make this situation right.

Modifié par EDarkness, 24 février 2013 - 07:16 .

[Guanxii]

Haargel wrote...

I guess it's because ME3 sales for the Wii-U are extremely dissapointing.

I dont think they even sold 50k copies. Read that in an article somewhere, cannot find the source.

Mass Effect 3 sold like crap on Wii U. It's more like 4k.

http://www.vgchartz..../mass-effect-3/

Modifié par Guanxii, 24 février 2013 - 11:54 .

[Solmanian]

Wii U sales equal less than one precent of ME3 total sales. It doesn't makes sense pouring resources into such a niche crowd.

[MEGoWH777]

Nobody's going to buy the wii U untill a new zelda, mario or super smash bro's comes out.
Not a the price it's currently being sold at anyway. Besides, mass effect 3 didn't sell nearly enough copies for Ea to make a profit off of selling DLC on the Wii U.

Modifié par MEGoWH777, 24 février 2013 - 11:58 .

[Solmanian]

Guanxii wrote...

Haargel wrote...

I guess it's because ME3 sales for the Wii-U are extremely dissapointing.

I dont think they even sold 50k copies. Read that in an article somewhere, cannot find the source.

Mass Effect 3 sold like crap on Wii U. It's more like 4k.

http://www.vgchartz..../mass-effect-3/

0.04M equal 40k...