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Is it just me, or is Alistair the perfect guy?


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EJ42 wrote...

Holy crap!  This thread is still going?

This is hillarious.  The OP posts a question, then gets all pissy when she doesn't like people's answers.


Not only her...... You state an opinion and then you get called rude, flamer, troll, parade pisser and whatnot  - simply because you have different opinion on the matter than mass of rabid fangirls.

I understand that not everyone can see further than their nose but hostile intolerance toward someone who doesnt see the things through the same pink glasses as you do is least said sad.

I didnt see disclaimer "fangirls only" in this thread - so I would appreciate if you would put one in the future so I know to avoid answering such type of questions.

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Herr Uhl wrote...

Dahelia wrote...
A man wrote Alistair....lol and a woman wrote Sten....


That is because both Sheryl and Mary hates their own sex. They even started a club.


But Sheryl wrote Leliana...Leliana is a woman lol and not a butch woman either. Leliana is a very kind, gentle spirit that wouldn't mind gutting you like a fish if you hurt her or someone she loves....

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Dahelia wrote...

But Sheryl wrote Leliana...Leliana is a woman lol and not a butch woman either. Leliana is a very kind, gentle spirit that wouldn't mind gutting you like a fish if you hurt her or someone she loves....


Or at least... that is what she lets you think of her....

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Herr Uhl wrote...

That is because both Sheryl and Mary hates their own sex. They even started a club.


The forum wall just got breached.  Quickly, to the defenses!

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Nuegen wrote...

Dahelia wrote...

But Sheryl wrote Leliana...Leliana is a woman lol and not a butch woman either. Leliana is a very kind, gentle spirit that wouldn't mind gutting you like a fish if you hurt her or someone she loves....


Or at least... that is what she lets you think of her....


Oh I am sure she would gut someone like a fish...if you had a romance with her and say....some bad man hurts you.

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Dahelia wrote...

Herr Uhl wrote...
That is because both Sheryl and Mary hates their own sex. They even started a club.


But Sheryl wrote Leliana...Leliana is a woman lol and not a butch woman either. Leliana is a very kind, gentle spirit that wouldn't mind gutting you like a fish if you hurt her or someone she loves....


But she wrote that womens underwear smells like half-rotten wabbits too.

See:

Sheryl Chee wrote...

Herr Uhl wrote...

Sheryl Chee wrote...

*laughs long and hard at the thread*


You wrote that line, didn't you?


You know it. I also wrote the line where you get to tell Leliana to shut up and help make dinner that someone declared was cruel.

I just hate myself and all others of my sex. Clearly. I mean, I was talking about it to Mary and she said that she's at a loss to think of a single line I've written that wasn't a deep insult to all women everywhere, ever.


Modifié par Herr Uhl, 11 janvier 2010 - 08:33 .


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Dahelia wrote...

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 I believe one of the character writers is -in fact- a female, so it's not surprising a character like Alistair exists. I personally adore his character, but as a person who has gone through several TERRIBLE relationships I can see how he would be the ideal man. Sarcastic, playful, slightly naughty (in private), boyish, but he also is of royal decent so women are like provider! Chaching! It's attractive when a man is not only kind and endearing, but he has a promising future. Its ingrained in most women to find the most attractive mate who could provide best for potential children. Lol so no wonder fangirls swoon. 


David Gaider


I wrote Alistair, Morrigan, Zevran and Shale. Sheryl wrote Leliana,
Dog, Wynne and Oghren (although Jay Turner wrote a lot of Oghren as
well, I think). Mary wrote Sten and (the spoiler companion). Typically,
however, we each wrote of the lot of the other characters in the banter.


Dragon Age: Origins Wiki

In writing Alistair, David Gaider was inspired by Xander from Buffy the Vampire Slayer and Malcom Reynolds from Firefly.


A man wrote Alistair....lol and a woman wrote Sten....



Oh god that is so depressing, that means men know what we want and yet they still don't claim to understand us. Well now at least we have someone to point to, be like that imaginary guy from a video game! 

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Dahelia wrote...

Nuegen wrote...

Dahelia wrote...

But Sheryl wrote Leliana...Leliana is a woman lol and not a butch woman either. Leliana is a very kind, gentle spirit that wouldn't mind gutting you like a fish if you hurt her or someone she loves....


Or at least... that is what she lets you think of her....


Oh I am sure she would gut someone like a fish...if you had a romance with her and say....some bad man hurts you.


I was referring to the sweet and kind part.

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Herr Uhl wrote...

Dahelia wrote...

Herr Uhl wrote...
That is because both Sheryl and Mary hates their own sex. They even started a club.


But Sheryl wrote Leliana...Leliana is a woman lol and not a butch woman either. Leliana is a very kind, gentle spirit that wouldn't mind gutting you like a fish if you hurt her or someone she loves....


But she wrote that womens underwear smells like half-rotten wabbits too.

See:

Sheryl Chee wrote...

Herr Uhl wrote...

Sheryl Chee wrote...

*laughs long and hard at the thread*


You wrote that line, didn't you?


You know it. I also wrote the line where you get to tell Leliana to shut up and help make dinner that someone declared was cruel.

I just hate myself and all others of my sex. Clearly. I mean, I was talking about it to Mary and she said that she's at a loss to think of a single line I've written that wasn't a deep insult to all women everywhere, ever.


For the first part...women have a very sensitive sense of smell especially when it is other women and themselves...anyways..lol...she can hate herself and other females, she still wrote Leliana....and made her non-butch..

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Nuegen wrote...

Dahelia wrote...

Nuegen wrote...

Dahelia wrote...

But Sheryl wrote Leliana...Leliana is a woman lol and not a butch woman either. Leliana is a very kind, gentle spirit that wouldn't mind gutting you like a fish if you hurt her or someone she loves....


Or at least... that is what she lets you think of her....


Oh I am sure she would gut someone like a fish...if you had a romance with her and say....some bad man hurts you.


I was referring to the sweet and kind part.


Shhh! No one is suppose to know that!

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pixichic07 wrote...
Oh god that is so depressing, that means men know what we want and yet they still don't claim to understand us. Well now at least we have someone to point to, be like that imaginary guy from a video game! 


Or you could tell them to be as great as the great Gaider.

*ALL HAIL GAIDER*

Modifié par Herr Uhl, 11 janvier 2010 - 08:37 .


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pixichic07 wrote...

Dahelia wrote...

pixichic07 wrote...

 I believe one of the character writers is -in fact- a female, so it's not surprising a character like Alistair exists. I personally adore his character, but as a person who has gone through several TERRIBLE relationships I can see how he would be the ideal man. Sarcastic, playful, slightly naughty (in private), boyish, but he also is of royal decent so women are like provider! Chaching! It's attractive when a man is not only kind and endearing, but he has a promising future. Its ingrained in most women to find the most attractive mate who could provide best for potential children. Lol so no wonder fangirls swoon. 


David Gaider


I wrote Alistair, Morrigan, Zevran and Shale. Sheryl wrote Leliana,
Dog, Wynne and Oghren (although Jay Turner wrote a lot of Oghren as
well, I think). Mary wrote Sten and (the spoiler companion). Typically,
however, we each wrote of the lot of the other characters in the banter.


Dragon Age: Origins Wiki

In writing Alistair, David Gaider was inspired by Xander from Buffy the Vampire Slayer and Malcom Reynolds from Firefly.


A man wrote Alistair....lol and a woman wrote Sten....



Oh god that is so depressing, that means men know what we want and yet they still don't claim to understand us. Well now at least we have someone to point to, be like that imaginary guy from a video game! 


Some men..not all look at Gaider lol..I guess we could tell men to be more like Alistair...and those men who are like him are Alistair lol.

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pixichic07 wrote...

Oh god that is so depressing, that means men know what we want and yet they still don't claim to understand us. Well now at least we have someone to point to, be like that imaginary guy from a video game! 


No; we know what you say you want and act like you want at times.  What you really want or act like you want normally; we still have no idea.

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Alistair is cute and Sten, well it seems he is having a good time in that cage. So, see ya!

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David Gainer, that name does sound awfully familiar. Oh God! http://www.ukraine-w...nder-report.htm

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McFly3 wrote...

David Gainer, that name does sound awfully familiar. Oh God! http://www.ukraine-w...nder-report.htm


That was rude...but its Gaider..not Gainer...

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Alistair added a lot of personalilty to my games. I tend to prefer him as the main romance because:

1) We both have a common goal -- the Blight. We're carrying the same banner out of respect towards Duncan and the soldiers that have gone before us. (This reason doesn't apply on characters that were foricbly conscripted though.)

2) I enjoy Alistair's sense of humor. For some reason, I don't like him as much on my male character because even though the dialogue is the same, it seems inappropriate and irritating at times. I can't really put my finger on it. I definitely do get why some male players just don't like him. (To be fair, Morrigan is just as snarky and annoying during the female PC romances, too.)

3) He has a good heart. He really does. I can handle most of the dumb choices and bad results when good intentions were meant.

4) He says what's on his mind. I understand the comments about babying him, but he did most of the emotional work in the some of the romances from my perspective. I didn't feel like being the pursuer nor did I go out of my way to flatter him. It worked out that Alistair was the one that took the risks by wearing his heart on his sleeve to see if my character would be be interested in return. And then once the approval progressed into love, he flat out declared his love and basically says, "See? That wasn't so hard. I love you!" I found this very realistic because personally I can be bad about expressing my feelings and my husband will be the one to pull me out of my shell since he is not shy at all. I appreciated Alistair spelling out his feelings clearly as opposed to Zevran who will never actually say the same thing. Zev has a lot of good qualities, but this is one of the striking differences between the two men in self expressions.

5) Lots of room for character growth. He did grow as a character during the game. Probably not as much as some would have liked, but the some of the epilogues seemed to indicate that he rose to the occasion. I have hopes that we'll be seeing a more mature Alistair in the expansion, but he could just as easily be the same guy we know. (Case in point: Duncan was not always the noble man you saw in the origins either.)


And funny enough, I knew about the writer being inspired by Xander (one of my favorite characters because of his sarcastic lines) from Buffy, the Vampire Slayer and I definitely saw similiaries. I remembered being upset with Xander for letting the love of his life slip through his fingers and not fighting harder for her. I was surprised to find myself getting just as upset with Alistair for similiar reasons and for not seeing it coming in advance. (Boy, do I have an axe to grind in the expansion if my character ends up running into him again.) They're both dumba***s! :P

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dan107 wrote...

-k-a-t-e- wrote...
Edit - also, just because he acts the same around men and women doesn't mean he "Fails" I mean seriously... I get really irritated when men act differently around their male friends as opposed to their female friends? Why is this a measure of Man-liness? To me this says they can't act themselves around women, how is this a good thing?


It's not that we CAN'T act ourselves around women, it's that most women don't seem to appreciate the crude jokes, excessive cursing, and a detailed discussion on what positions we'd like to f*** them in. Image IPB

LOL... yeah, I don't think anyone's girlfriend really needs to know what an awesome rack the chick at the next table has. ;)

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So, I came to this thread a bit late, too late to even want to read the whole thing, but the first few pages having me itching to respond regardless. I mean, I'm a pretty big Alistair fangirl, embarrassingly so, even. In fact, a few weeks I bought a "Team Alistair" shirt. But, dear lord, are people really breaking up with their significant others over video game characters? I definitely wasn't the only one to address this, right? Seriously guys, this isn't the Twilight fandom. :\\

On the topic of Alistair and boyfriends, my boyfriend has a female mage character he made for his second playthrough, also so he could "bang Alistair just for the achievement." I was with him when he saved his file and talked Alistair into doing it, claiming he was "going to get the achevement then load the other save file like it never happened so he could get with Leliana." So, he worked his moves on Alistair, they had sex and... he said there was no use in breaking up with him until he got to a better approval rating with Leliana anyway. I checked in a week later, Leliana's approval rating is no higher and Alistair and my boyfriend are still going strong. So, in conclusion, my boyfriend is pretty gay for Alistair. :P

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purplesdove wrote...

I can't help but be slightly in love with a video game character. I have a boyfriend, but I can't shake off the fact that Bioware has, truely, made the perfect guy. Nervous, sweet, adorable, and funny!

And please.. By all means, post your Alistair pictures!


Funny that's me to a T yet I am single.  My favorite breakup line received mind you is, "You're what every girl wants, and I must be crazy, but I don't want it with you..."

Bitter party of one now seating at table alonity101

Sounds like most of the girls here are with the wrong guy.

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Lughsan35 wrote...

purplesdove wrote...

I can't help but be slightly in love with a video game character. I have a boyfriend, but I can't shake off the fact that Bioware has, truely, made the perfect guy. Nervous, sweet, adorable, and funny!

And please.. By all means, post your Alistair pictures!


Funny that's me to a T yet I am single.  My favorite breakup line received mind you is, "You're what every girl wants, and I must be crazy, but I don't want it with you..."

Bitter party of one now seating at table alonity101

Sounds like most of the girls here are with the wrong guy.


What the OP failed to mention is that some (admittedly not all) of Alistair's attractiveness is physical. Also, women don't know what they want. You should know that by now.

P.S. I do see a little of the resemblance to Alistair here... the whining! :P

Modifié par MadamCaptain, 11 janvier 2010 - 10:32 .


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Lughsan35 wrote...

purplesdove wrote...

I can't help but be slightly in love with a video game character. I have a boyfriend, but I can't shake off the fact that Bioware has, truely, made the perfect guy. Nervous, sweet, adorable, and funny!

And please.. By all means, post your Alistair pictures!


Funny that's me to a T yet I am single.  My favorite breakup line received mind you is, "You're what every girl wants, and I must be crazy, but I don't want it with you..."

Bitter party of one now seating at table alonity101

Sounds like most of the girls here are with the wrong guy.


So you are just like Alistair and no girl wants to be with you?

Erm...... *goes out of the thread to rofl in peace*

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Pixelcrushes! I knows thems...

Anyway, don't have time to scan through 13 pages, so there might be one up already....but for you: my fav Alistair screenie!


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On the topic of Alistair and boyfriends, my boyfriend has a female mage character he made for his second playthrough, also so he could "bang Alistair just for the achievement." I was with him when he saved his file and talked Alistair into doing it, claiming he was "going to get the achevement then load the other save file like it never happened so he could get with Leliana." So, he worked his moves on Alistair, they had sex and... he said there was no use in breaking up with him until he got to a better approval rating with Leliana anyway. I checked in a week later, Leliana's approval rating is no higher and Alistair and my boyfriend are still going strong. So, in conclusion, my boyfriend is pretty gay for Alistair. :P


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Cybercat999 wrote...


Not only her...... You state an opinion and
then you get called rude, flamer, troll, parade pisser and whatnot  -
simply because you have different opinion on the matter than mass of
rabid fangirls.

I understand that not everyone can see further
than their nose but hostile intolerance toward someone who doesnt see
the things through the same pink glasses as you do is least said sad.

I
didnt see disclaimer "fangirls only" in this thread - so I would
appreciate if you would put one in the future so I know to avoid
answering such type of questions.


I don't think
anyone minds you criticising Alistair now that people have realised
that all opinions should be allowed, whether they coincide with their
own or no, butyou are being rather negative - insulting, even - and it would be nice if you could... you know... stop that [smilie]../../../images/forum/emoticons/sideways.png[/smilie]

I do recall you being described as 'mature' a few pages back, and I'm afriad to say you're really not showing it right now.

Modifié par Obtusifolius, 11 janvier 2010 - 12:49 .


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Not totally off topic since she's been mentioned a lot but... Does anyone else think that Leliana looks suspiciously a lot like Chuckie from the Child's Play movies??? Especially in the cgi trailers. My opinion on that may be cluttered by the fact that she annoys me to no end.



Also! Alistair was also based on Captain Malcom Reynolds from Firefly, which I have to say I can definitely see. And I have/had a huge fangirl crush on Mal.



But if you want to see a walking, talking, going to war version of Alistair (looks wise anyway), he's in the US Army right now. People who've played the game have started calling him Alistair and he now officially hates the game because of it. So now every time he sees my husband he tells him to tell me 'Alistair' says hi.