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If Sam Hulick came over from Mass Effect, I wouldn't object.

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Wulfram wrote...

If Sam Hulick came over from Mass Effect, I wouldn't object.


Also Jack Wall and the other guys who worked on ME3's soundtrack are all welcome, imo. 

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Beside the main theme in DAO, the series music is average anyway.

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Corto81 wrote...

DA2, not so much, but by Inon Zur's own admission, it was rushed and unfinished.


Maybe that's why he isn't coming back. :P

Really now, I thought his stuff was great. Some of the tracks were quite remarkable. Would be nice if we could get a confirmation on him returning or not.

Modifié par - Songlian -, 22 février 2013 - 12:20 .


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i played the dragon age series more than i played the mass effect series an 2 weeks ago i bought skyrim, i cant remember any of the DA music but bought all the ME OST an straight away done the same for skyrim, the DA music isnt bad it just isnt as memorable as other titles imo, an for me thats what sets them apart

Although the reason i may have bought them 2 soundtracks is because there so similar

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I was hoping that they'd get a new fresh composer for DA3, I have nothing against Inon Zur but his music was pretty generic and unmemorable in DAO and DA2, I think he needs a break.
I hope the soundtrack is going to have the same quality as in ME3.

Dhiro wrote...
Zur did an excellent work in IWD and other titles, but his soundtrack for the DA series is rather underwhelming.

*nods*

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thats make me saaad panda

i hope Inon it list will be one of co composers, and also id like to hear Christopher Lennertz as one of composers for Dragon Age

Modifié par don-mika, 22 février 2013 - 01:18 .


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I'm not sure if this is really related to the composer, but could we please get some Chanting going on in our Chantry?

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Wulfram wrote...

I'm not sure if this is really related to the composer, but could we please get some Chanting going on in our Chantry?


^ this. I'd love to hear something reminiscent of Gregorian chants in the Chantry. Sister's crooning something like this would be splendid: www.youtube.com/watch

And if they got Anuna ( www.youtube.com/watch) on board for something I wouldn't complain. ^^ 

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Inon Zur is pretty good but no way on the scale of Mass Effect's composers.

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For years, I muted video games -- all the beeps and boops that went along with them were just terrible. Then I played Star Control 2 and was blown away -- a big part of the reason I loved that game so much was because of the soundtrack. In fact, StarCon2 was one of the trailblazers when it came to putting intricate scores in video games -- it was the first thing all the reviewers mentioned. Then when Trent Reznor started writing video game scores? Everything had changed. Music, noticeable or not, can make or break a game -- just like a movie score can.

Anyway, I loved the music to the DA series. I would be sad if it had a different composer because the music is really what tied the first two together. However, there are a lot of amazing composers out there. But I would hope that even if Zur doesn't compose the score for DA3 that whoever does is heavily influenced by what Zur did in the first two.

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Don't break my heart...

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Zur is a good composer, yet what he did for DA never really did much for me.

I wonder whose idea it was to make DA's music so ambient and often without strong melody. If Zur was the one who chose the music style for DA, I highly welcome some new blood. If somebody above him had instructed his direction however, then we've lost a top notch composer for no obvious benefit.

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shygravel wrote...
I'd love to hear something reminiscent of Gregorian chants in the Chantry. Sister's crooning something like this would be splendid:


You mean ambient tracks like we had in BG2? ->
Baldurs Gate II - Waukeens Temple, ambient
and
Baldurs Gate II - Temple of Helm ambient

DAO and DA2 totally lacked ambient tracks.

Modifié par The Woldan , 22 février 2013 - 02:50 .


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This is not something I'm sad about. A new composer with fresh, new, music would be a positive to me.

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The Woldan wrote...

shygravel wrote...
*snip*


You mean ambient tracks like we had in BG2? ->
Baldurs Gate II - Waukeens Temple, ambient
and
Baldurs Gate II - Temple of Helm ambient

DAO and DA2 totally lacked ambient tracks.


Kind of, yes! Except geared towards, specifically, the Chantry. Leliana mentions how the Chant of Light can always be heard through Val Royeaux -- so hopeully if we're in the city in DA:I that kind of ambiance make its way into the game finally. 

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Cribbian wrote...

Execpt for the DA:O main theme I thought the music in both game was pretty forgetable.

If they decide to bring in someone else it wont bother me.


Pretty much this.

I usually like Inon Zur's music in games. He seems pretty good at coming up with a really memorable main theme but then the rest is pretty forgettable.

Off the top of my head, the  Dragon Age music that I can immediately think of is the Origins theme, camp theme, lake calenhad theme and Orzammar theme just from being burned into my eardrums by how repetitive it was. Even if Origins didn't have many memorable themes, it did have some really nice musical moments where the score accompanied and enhanced the scenes, like curing the werewolves or killing the archdemon.  I can't recall any noteworthy themes from DA2, but then again I only played that about 1.5 times close to 2 years ago.

I just want an awesome main theme not unlike Skyrim. That's the power of good music right there. You heard Dragonborn and you immediately knew you were dealing with Skyrim. Good music and good sound in a game is just as important as any visuals.

That said, I hope they get somebody best for the job, not just some big name like Clint Mansell with ME3.

Modifié par Brockololly, 22 février 2013 - 04:31 .


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I expect that even if Inon Zur doesn't return, the soundtrack will be Zuresque, much in the same way The Clone Wars cartoon, KOTOR, KOTOR II, Republic Commando, The Force Unleashed, etc. feature rather John Williamseque music.

If you hate Inon Zur, don't get your hopes too high that we'll be getting something radically different. I don't hate him personally. I find Jeremy Soule and Mark Griskey to be superior game music composers, but Zur has composed some really good, memorable pieces for Dragon Age games.

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I thought Inon Zur peaked with his work on Icewind Dale II. That game had a lovely score. While it fell short of Jeremy Soule's work in Icewind Dale, it still lent a certain gravitas to IWD2 that made it feel like an epic adventure.

Dragon Age: Origins was hit or miss by comparison. Whereas IWD2's music was almost all inextricably linked to specific locales or characters, most of DAO's score saw frequent reuse save for a few notable exceptions. Unsurprisingly, it is those exceptions that stood out to me. When I hear Orzammar's theme, I instantly picture that city, its inhabitants, and my characters' adventures there. When I hear Bhaalspawn Battle from Throne of Bhaal, I'm reminded of my various characters' titanic battles with their half-siblings.

If Inon Zur returns, I hope he approaches DA3's score from an old school perspective where each track felt as important to a location as its design aesthetic and layout. That is when he is at his best. Not when composing generic fantasy filler track B.

Modifié par Seagloom, 22 février 2013 - 04:59 .


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This sounds like a low-rent decision if ever I've heard of one. I really hope it's not true.

Seagloom wrote...

I thought Inon Zur peaked with his work on Icewind Dale II. That game had a lovely score. While it fell short of Jeremy Soule's work in Icewind Dale, it still lent a certain gravitas to IWD2 that made it feel like an epic adventure.

If I'm not mistaken, Zur also composed for Icewind Dale (Soule's first stretch with BIS/BioWare was for NWN).

Seagloom wrote...

Dragon Age: Origins was hit or miss by comparison. Whereas IWD2's music was almost all inextricably linked to specific locales or characters, most of DAO's score saw frequent reuse save for a few notable exceptions.

How is that his fault? He doesn't get to assign the music to each of the areas.

He's also contracted and managed. The audio lead gets to make the decisions, and Inon then creates the music that's requested.

I think the cohesiveness of the score was one of its strengths, even though the tracks did get used too often in some areas.

Modifié par devSin, 22 février 2013 - 05:46 .


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Soule is credited for Icewind Dale. Granted, it has been ages since I have seen that game's credits, but I recall Inon Zur only composing for IWD2.

Perhaps it is not entirely his fault. I still feel my point stands whether it is mismanagement of his talents or a personal failing. Most likely it is a combination of both.

Inon Zur once stated DA2's score was rushed. In that case I could comfortably say outside forces deeply impacted the quality of his work. Simultaneously, I cannot ignore that Inon Zur's work takes a sharp dive when he composes in a vacuum.

So I suppose I can alter my previous statement to "I hope he has good direction and approaches DA3's score from an old school perspective..." yada yada. Apparently he needs it badly. I have never heard a Jack Wall or Jeremy Soule track that was so forgettable it made me feel absolutely nothing. Considering how prolific those two have been, they were probably also in work for hire situations with minimal to no direction.

In my opinion most of Inon Zur's DAO score had no soul. It was neither terrible nor astounding. It simply existed. The tracks that did have soul were always attached to a single character, locale, or scene in the story. I did enjoy the unifying feel of different permutations of the DAO theme. I loved it, in fact. However, a lot of the other tracks were just bland.

Modifié par Seagloom, 22 février 2013 - 06:31 .


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I own the Icewind Dale soundtrack and have listened to it a ridiculous amount, more that almost any other music I own.

Let me quote from the CD liner notes...

Composed by Jeremy Soule.

No mention of Inon Zur anywhere in the booklet, on the back, at all.

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I hope it's true. Inon Zur delivered a borefest with his soundtrack in DA2 and DAO wasn't much better.

Jesper Kyd however would be the bomb.

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Jesper Kyd would be amazing. I've loved everything he's done.

Won't be too disappointed if this rumor is true. Like others have stated, I didn't find DAO's or DA2's soundtracks to be very memorable.

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I hope Inon Zur isn't stepping down. If he is then at least keep Aubrey Ashburn for her amazing vocals. *remembers main title screen music of DAO* <3