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[john-in-france]

Berty213 wrote...

http://social.biowar...dex/15961094/12

Chris Priestly wrote...

Citadel will take place anytime after the Citadel coup and before London on Earth.

  Really Bioware!

Edited to add: Thane is wounded at the end of the Citadel Coup, however his present deathbed scene happens afterwards.

Lucky femshep...
Jacob: Never a romance interest, just a booty call.
Thane: In love with femshep (recall the love letter from LoTSB) and he (may get/) gets ignored again.
Kaidan: Missing for most of ME3. Trust issues. (or dead on Virmire)
Garrus: Pretty cool BFF and could be interesting in the DLC for Shakarian shippers. (or dead on the Suicide mission)

For those who never saw the letter:

Siha,
I write this with a heavy hand, knowing you will read this letter when I am no longer able to share my thoughts. I am dying, Siha. Perhaps because of the differences between our species, I can hope that time will treat you with kindness and dim the hurt of my passing to faded recollections that a drell would forever remember with perfect clarity.
Selfishly, however, I could not leave this world without leaving a piece of me behind that would never fade.
I once accepted my fate. Nothing remained but a shell destined to die. I only had to choose the when and how of my passing. I had refused to be confined to a bed, gasping horribly as my life beeped away to machinery I had no use for. I thought of my Irikah, broken, bloodied, and betrayed by my absence. Of Kolyat, small and afraid, bravely pushing at his eyes to stem the flow of tears I had entrusted to him to cry… for both our sakes.
The expectation to move swiftly to my end vanished upon meeting with your cause. You awoke me, Shepard. My heart quickened its sluggish beat if only to remain at your side and protect you with everything that I am. I was simply content to watch, take the time left given and praise all I know for allowing me to walk my final days with hope and certainty that I am worthy of more than my cold isolation, solely because you believed.
I love you. If all else whispers back into the tide, know this for fact. By grace given me by the Goddess Arashu, I bid her divine protection to you, my warrior-angel, my Siha, to succeed in your destiny. To light your path through the coming darkness. To give you hope, when all seems lost.
I will await you across the sea.
Thane



Edited updates:
Merizzan tweeted that Thane is 'complicated and spoilery'.
then...
Jessica Merizzan: @Emeraldfern1 @mnomaha @JECW77 I don't want to dash or encourage hopes. That's why I really can't say anything at all :c

Bioware on the DLC in general: We listened to the fans.
Thanemancers and Thane fans to Bioware: Did you listen to us? We have hope that you did.


The Threads purpose.



A) Will we get Thane content?
If so what gameplay conditions need to be met to save Thane from death by Kai Leng?
C) Have Bioware forgotten us?

Thoughts so far on conditions necessary for a different Kai Leng aftermath:

Save Kirrahe in ME (Virmire) and ME3 (Surkesh), he is the default alternative to Thane in this fight. (Now considered unlikely as it would need a retcon)

Make sure that you have given the Alien medigel formula to Huerta Hospital (Found during N7 Cerberus lab).

Romanced Thane in ME2 and confirmed interest in ME3 (may not be necessary but plausible since this changes his outlook on dying). Or Thane must be loyal from ME2 if not romanced. Other ME2 characters can survive potential death depending on loyalty from ME2. Grunt and Zaeed for example.

Will Kasumis quest with the Hanar be relevent (it brings Drell into the war so the possibility of blood transfusions could be higher) - Unknown at this point.

Reddit leak: So far most of the leaked content on Reddit has turned out to be true, even the proposed release date. The leak also mentioned that we would end up visiting more Prothean ruins. On the BSN this has been assumed to be Illos. However long term players know that Illos has no new information and that Vigil is inoperative. Mars is not viable. Which leaves the biggest Prothean known ruins in the entire game....on Kahje!

Would Thane surviving the wound by Kai Leng add anything to this plotline? Almost certainly. Bioware often have characters give us extra information, take Jaavik on Thessia for example.

Cure for Keprals?
First many see that the in game description has changed between ME2 and ME3. However the Bioware wiki has not. . It still has the original description of the disease. It still mentions that the Hanar Primacy are researching a cure via gene therapy. It still states that they based the disease on cystic fibrosis.

This is where it gets interesting. Both in game descriptions are valid. There is a mutated form of cystic fibrosis that damages the protein chains and has the normal CF symptoms as well. Its treatment is currently medication, transplant and soon, gene therapy. The gene therapy is proving problematic due to delivery systems causing infections.

Would a visit to Kahje allow a cure? Unlikely, but possible, we all thought the genophage cure was years away.


Please do not insult Bioware writers on this thread. It is fine to say that you didn't agree with X, Y or Z, but don't make it personal.

Modifié par john-in-france, 25 février 2013 - 09:27 .

[Dusty Everman]

Thrazesul wrote...
And seriously zombie- Thane? Wow.

I do apologize for using the term "zombie-Thane".  I did not mean to be disrespectful.  I was just trying to say that we couldn't bring him back from the dead.  This pack will most likely be played from people's auto-save made just before the assault on the Illusive Man's base, well after Thane has passed on.  We don't want to force players to play the game completely over to see new content.  We are adding to your story, not changing what you've already experienced in the past.

That said, we tried to make a positive experience for those who romanced Thane.  We'll see in a week if you think that was successful or not. 

And as an aside, the reason "zombie-Thane" came so easily from my lips (or, er, fingers), is that during the development of ME3 is was a common logic bug to have dead characters accidentally appear where they shouldn't.  It was common for us to say things like "There goes Garrus smooching up with zombie-Tali", or "Hey, I just got an email from zombie-Wrex".  There's a whole lot of could-be-dead characters we need to account for, and as far as I know, we fixed all those type bugs before ship.

[Dusty Everman]

devSin wrote...

Dusty Everman wrote...

There's a whole lot of could-be-dead characters we need to account for, and as far as I know, we fixed all those type bugs before ship.

Wasn't there still a bug where zombie-Tali would visit Shepard's quarters before the attack on Cronos (even though she jumped off a cliff on Rannoch)?

Only four more days! Looking forward to it (I'm going to try to guess your combat area, but I can't imagine how I'd be able to tell at this point).

Oooo, that does sound familiar.  I think we fixed that in a later DLC or patch, didn't we?

When people say your choices don't  really matter in ME, it always kills me a little inside.  We spent so much time making the game work for everyones own experience.  Choices you make two games earlier can change what you see in ME3.  What other game has done that?  It's a testing nightmare.  I tip my hat and bow deeply in gratitude to the QA teams of Mass Effect.

I can't wait to talk to you about the DLC once its been released to the wild!

[Dusty Everman]

Ninalupa wrote...
 I'll watch a Thane-romance playthrough on youtube and figure out if I want to go through with it myself from there.

Though I encourage you to wait for feedback from your fellow Thane enthusiasts before making a purchase, I encourage you not to watch it first on YouTube. Games are not movies, and watching something on Youtube just ruins a personal experience.  YouTube is a great venue for seeing the parts of the game you couldn't see for yourself (e.g. I had Wrex alive in my game, but how would this have played out if Wreav was in charge?) But as content devs, we try to craft an experience through pacing and choice.  We hope that you are immersed and in the moment, which can't happen through YouTube. You can only see something for the first time once.

[Dusty Everman]

Belyn wrote...
Bioware killed a character. That's all they did. What that character could have been was so much more than that. Too many opportunities lost.

_Heather_Shepard_ wrote...

It is sad, but it is true. A waste of an amazing character. Unbelievable, Bioware.

I'm stepping in here as a fan, not as a dev.

For a long time I wondered if a game could affect me enough to actually get me to cry, to have at least one tear stream down my face. Movies could do it, and I could get immersed in many games enough to affect me very deeply, but never to the degree where I actually teared up.

Then last year not one, but two games got me to cry. One was Telltale's: The Walking Dead, and I don't want to spoil anything by saying when. The other one was Mass Effect 3, when I played it at home after ship. And the scene that did it was Thane's death scene. I'm a sucker for father/son moments, and when I was told the prayer was for me, oh man, it was too much. And it was awesome. It sits as a high moment in gaming for me.

To say that was a waste of an amazing character, I personally have to disagree. My love for Thane lead me to an emotional experience that I hadn't encounter before in a game. It is sad that Thane was gone, but that in part is what made it special to me. I do acknowledge that he wasn't my love interest, but I think if he was, I would have had the expectation that it was a romance destined for tragedy.  It's a Romeo and Juliet tale; It's a bitter sweet ending.  I say this as a fan, and not speaking officially for BioWare.  It's just my opinion.



 

[Allan Schumacher]

Sparky28 wrote...

Darth Brotarian wrote...

Anyone cover the video's thane made yet? The ones after the memorial you get from kolyat.

How are they? I haven't found them on youtube yet.

Here:


(MaleShep)

Thanks for sharing.  I enjoyed watching that!