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#251
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Writers can do whatever they want.
Thane could very well have fake his death in order to "disappear" (he's very good at it, isn't he ?) if he had a good reason to do it. A good reason as... investigating and protecting Shepard against a mysterious ennemy, if he has some information about the plot (he always seem well-informed and he's close to Bailey so...).
So, I have a little hope.
After his fight he says he will be fine, and his son is here to give him blood. Shepard seem to think everything is fine for him until Bailey, then the doctor, talk of complications. Possible that it was a plan... would be just like him to act in mystery and shadows.
And, of course, it would fit perfectly with "complicated and spoilery"...

Modifié par Elista, 24 février 2013 - 01:27 .


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It's their game, they can do whatever they want whit it
When you see something like this you know thay you are talking with a, honestly, delusional and submissive person
They shouted monkey crap to us with ME3(i have to buy a DLC to meet, for example, my LI Miranda? or Jack? da faq), but it's their game so i am fine with that :D

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Time to look at another major issue for Thanemancers. Should there be a cure for Keprals?

First many see that the in game description has changed between ME2 and ME3. However the Bioware wiki has not. . It still has the original description of the disease. It still mentions that the Hanar Primacy are researching a cure via gene therapy. It still states that they based the disease on cystic fibrosis.

This is where it gets interesting. Both in game descriptions are valid. There is a mutated form of cystic fibrosis that damages the protein chains and has the normal CF symptoms as well. Its treatment is currently medication, transplant and soon, gene therapy. The gene therapy is proving problematic due to delivery systems causing infections.

Could there still be a cure for Keprals?

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archangel1996 wrote...

When you see something like this you know thay you are talking with a, honestly, delusional and submissive person


My husband wants to thank you for the best laugh that he has had in ages...especially over the submissive part.

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Has it ever hit any of you that the reason Thane attracted so many people is because of the maturity of his character?

I know death, and I surely do not need to be taught it by any of you or by BioWare. I find it quite insulting when people/BioWare try to lecture me on the subject.

I will never understand why there couldn't be an optional outcome for Thane. Thane is a video game character in a RPG game.

None the less, I think it's time for BioWare to grow up and realize in whom they are dealing with on this subject. I don't want to hear about "Space Magic," "It would cheapen his character," or whatever else nonsense they want to sum up. I want the truth. I am far too old, and far too experience to hear such bs.

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 Yes there should be a cure for Keprals. I think the Drell deserve to have a cure for Keprals as much as the Krogan genophage and Quarian living w/o suits. 

As for this dlc...I honestly don't know if Thane will be in there or not.
When Merizan said Jenlocks I'm sorry but I can't discuss Thane. It's complicated and definitely spoilery.
I kind of think it was just being said to shut me up...and not give an answer.
When I asked- ok what about Jack for dlc -she said I am not going to reveal anything about characters that aren't in the screenshots we posted today.

I think any dlc that claims to reunite you with your past squaddies and LI's should include ALL of them. And there shouldn't be a problem saying yes or no to your question of "is this person in there" because it would only be confirming what was already said..The reluctance of them doing that has me concerned that Thane will be forgotten again. :blush:

Modifié par Jenlocks, 24 février 2013 - 02:24 .


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Squeegee83 wrote...

Has it ever hit any of you that the reason Thane attracted so many people is because of the maturity of his character?

I know death, and I surely do not need to be taught it by any of you or by BioWare. I find it quite insulting when people/BioWare try to lecture me on the subject.

I will never understand why there couldn't be an optional outcome for Thane. Thane is a video game character in a RPG game.

None the less, I think it's time for BioWare to grow up and realize in whom they are dealing with on this subject. I don't want to hear about "Space Magic," "It would cheapen his character," or whatever else nonsense they want to sum up. I want the truth. I am far too old, and far too experience to hear such bs.


Nicely put.
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Citadel DLC will certainly be after the coup. Zaeed was confirmed to be in it, but you can't meet Zaeed in game before the coup. Same thing with Jacob and Samara. This leaves us with such probabilities:

1. Thane would die and not be present in DLC at all (possible since it's EAware, but not likely)
2. Thane dies, but he would be mentioned extensively if you had him as LI and just mentioned a lot if you were his friend (most likely)
3. Thane would survive coup and will be present in DLC, possibly cured (very small chance as it will add a lot of additional work like Thane hologramm at Priority Earth etc., but if it happens it would be extremely cool)

Modifié par Oransel, 24 février 2013 - 02:35 .


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Oransel wrote...

Citadel DLC will certainly be after the coup. Zaeed was confirmed to be in it, but you can't meet Zaeed in game before the coup. Same thing with Jacob and Samara. This leaves us with such probabilities:

1. Thane would die and not be present in DLC at all (possible since it's EAware, but not likely)
2. Thane dies, but he would be mentioned extensively if you had him as LI and just mentioned a lot if you were his friend (most likely)
3. Thane would survive coup and will be present in DLC, possibly cured (very small chance as it will add a lot of additional work like Thane hologramm at Priority Earth etc., but if it happens it would be extremely cool)

It's going to be 2 obviously.

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I think that people need to realize that from the start, it is known he is going to die. Sad to say it, but sometimes there just isn't a cure to things. Just be lucky Thane-lovers, at least he didn't ditch you for someone else like Jacob.

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john-in-france wrote...

Squeegee83 wrote...

Has it ever hit any of you that the reason Thane attracted so many people is because of the maturity of his character?

I know death, and I surely do not need to be taught it by any of you or by BioWare. I find it quite insulting when people/BioWare try to lecture me on the subject.

I will never understand why there couldn't be an optional outcome for Thane. Thane is a video game character in a RPG game.

None the less, I think it's time for BioWare to grow up and realize in whom they are dealing with on this subject. I don't want to hear about "Space Magic," "It would cheapen his character," or whatever else nonsense they want to sum up. I want the truth. I am far too old, and far too experience to hear such bs.


Nicely put.
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Nope. He is just asking for a magic cure for him Like most Thanemancers are. Itlike the first time he tels you he is dieing and the moment after when he tells you he has a terminal illness doesnot regester to you.

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We're not asking for Space Magic but for a cure that would logically fit into the story. Bioware has put hints and clues for a cure or at least a prolongation of his life - for example in the game (Hanars), in the LotSB DLC, in the Cerberus news...

Edit: And once again, it's his portrayal in ME3 that is the biggest problem. He's totally out of character in ME3 if you romanced him in ME2.

Modifié par Sparky28, 24 février 2013 - 02:45 .


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Sparky28 wrote...

We're not asking for Space Magic but for a cure that would logically fit into the story. Bioware has put hints and clues for a cure or at least a prolongation of his life - for example in the game (Hanars), in the LotSB DLC, in the Cerberus news...

Edit: And once again, it's his portrayal in ME3 that is the biggest problem. He's totally out of character in ME3 if you romanced him in ME2.

No they did notput hints. They statedform the startitwas a terminal illness...Look up what that mean.

There was no cure and they won't be one in time to save Thane. He was always going to die. You were toldthis from the start.

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dreman9999 wrote...

Oransel wrote...

Citadel DLC will certainly be after the coup. Zaeed was confirmed to be in it, but you can't meet Zaeed in game before the coup. Same thing with Jacob and Samara. This leaves us with such probabilities:

1. Thane would die and not be present in DLC at all (possible since it's EAware, but not likely)
2. Thane dies, but he would be mentioned extensively if you had him as LI and just mentioned a lot if you were his friend (most likely)
3. Thane would survive coup and will be present in DLC, possibly cured (very small chance as it will add a lot of additional work like Thane hologramm at Priority Earth etc., but if it happens it would be extremely cool)

It's going to be 2 obviously.


I'm not putting it past Bioware to have a last recording of Thane for romancers, either an ingame video you watch or an audio message to listen to. 

Modifié par Nicodemus, 24 février 2013 - 02:47 .


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For the hundred time it's his character in ME3 that's the biggest problem!

NO ONE would just sit back if a character they liked suddenly made a complete personality change in the next game, as if the former game never happened. Most of us are fine with the death, it's everything before that's poorly treated.

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Thrazesul wrote...

For the hundred time it's his character in ME3 that's the biggest problem!

NO ONE would just sit back if a character they liked suddenly made a complete personality change in the next game, as if the former game never happened. Most of us are fine with the death, it's everything before that's poorly treated.


^This.

(And, yes, they did put hints). But as I said, it's not the biggest problem.

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Thrazesul wrote...

For the hundred time it's his character in ME3 that's the biggest problem!

NO ONE would just sit back if a character they liked suddenly made a complete personality change in the next game, as if the former game never happened. Most of us are fine with the death, it's everything before that's poorly treated.


Bioware would not overwrite things already in game. Thane would still die and still be OOC pre-DLC. Whatever happens in DLC is another story, though. Hopefully, Thane would be done some justice.

My Shep's LI died as well without any chance to survive (Kelly Chambers). So, yeah, I feel sympathetic to Thanemancers. 

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Thrazesul wrote...

For the hundred time it's his character in ME3 that's the biggest problem!

NO ONE would just sit back if a character they liked suddenly made a complete personality change in the next game, as if the former game never happened. Most of us are fine with the death, it's everything before that's poorly treated.

What persoanality change?

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I doubt that most of Thanemancers is ok with his death. And I'm certainly not ashamed of wanting him to live. The change of character is what makes it a lot worse.

@dreman9999 - there are plenty of reasons to believe that Thane wasn't doomed. We're siiting there and protesting for a very long time. Sure we have reason to do that.


Edit:
Personality change - romanced Thane is afraid of death. He wants to live and is definitely not the person, who would say:“It's freeing to find no requirements placed on me. No responsibilities, no fears. It is a good end to a life.”

Modifié par Vlk3, 24 février 2013 - 02:58 .


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Oransel wrote...

Thrazesul wrote...

For the hundred time it's his character in ME3 that's the biggest problem!

NO ONE would just sit back if a character they liked suddenly made a complete personality change in the next game, as if the former game never happened. Most of us are fine with the death, it's everything before that's poorly treated.


Bioware would not overwrite things already in game. Thane would still die and still be OOC pre-DLC. Whatever happens in DLC is another story, though. Hopefully, Thane would be done some justice.

My Shep's LI died as well without any chance to survive (Kelly Chambers). So, yeah, I feel sympathetic to Thanemancers. 

1.You can save her.
2. When wasitshowed she died in the final mission.

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Vlk3 wrote...

I doubt that most of Thanemancers is ok with his death. And I'm certainly not ashamed of wanting him to live. The change of character is what makes it a lot worse.

@dreman9999 - there are plenty of reasons to believe that Thane wasn't doomed. We're siiting there and protesting for a very long time. Sure we have reason to do that.

You were first told he was dieing. Then youwere told it was terminal....
That leaves no space for saving him.

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ME3 Thane is alright with dying, feels content with it, whether he's romanced or not. As a friend it makes sense...

ME2 romanced Thane FEARED dying, he didn't want it, he was ashamed of it and wanted to live for Shepard's and Kolyat's sake.

The difference between the ME2 before suicide mission cutscene and when first meeting him in ME3 as romanced is frigging huge and cringe worthy.

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Sparky28 wrote...




(And, yes, they did put hints). But as I said, it's not the biggest problem.

Please link to theses hints.

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Thrazesul wrote...

ME3 Thane is alright with dying, feels content with it, whether he's romanced or not. As a friend it makes sense...

ME2 romanced Thane FEARED dying, he didn't want it, he was ashamed of it and wanted to live for Shepard's and Kolyat's sake.

The difference between the ME2 before suicide mission cutscene and when first meeting him in ME3 as romanced is frigging huge and cringe worthy.

Five Stages of Grief...http://grief.com/the...tages-of-grief/

Denial, Anger, Bargaining, Depression and Acceptance

Clearly he was at the last stage.

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dreman9999 wrote...

Thrazesul wrote...

ME3 Thane is alright with dying, feels content with it, whether he's romanced or not. As a friend it makes sense...

ME2 romanced Thane FEARED dying, he didn't want it, he was ashamed of it and wanted to live for Shepard's and Kolyat's sake.

The difference between the ME2 before suicide mission cutscene and when first meeting him in ME3 as romanced is frigging huge and cringe worthy.

Five Stages of Grief...http://grief.com/the...tages-of-grief/

Denial, Anger, Bargaining, Depression and Acceptance

Clearly he was at the last stage.


He was at that last stage before he met Shepard in ME2, since he had accepted it back then.