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[RShara]

dreman, I remember discussing this with you before. Please remember the points in the first post here: Thane's Story Arc

I included quotes, links, screenshots.

Modifié par RShara, 24 février 2013 - 11:14 .

[earendil87]

dreman9999 wrote...

Elista wrote...

In this game, many things weren't expected and happened, many things were expected and did not happen. So is it really important that Thane was supposed to die ? A writer can do what he wants and they have done things very strange and unrealistic in ME3... We just ask for equality of treatment between LIs especially because Femshep is so badly served.

That still is asking for a magic cure. Thane does not need to bealive for femshep to get equal  treatment.

Nope, that's not asking for a magic cure. If you call magic to everything that the writers make up then all the game is magic. They could have come up with something realistic to do it, or they could have simply not stab him by a ninja and maybe he would have survived until the end of the game... and maybe he could have killed a reaper getting on a ship alone and crashing it like a kamikaze or whatever...  it's not that hard. 

But putting him in a hospital dying slowly is exactly what he said in ME2 that he didn't want. He wanted to die in action and he tells you that whether you romance him or not... (and especially in the LotSB letter when romanced)

Modifié par earendil87, 24 février 2013 - 11:46 .

[MJoshier]

I romanced Thane for the first time in my most recent ME2 walkthrough, even though i've played ME3 before I did (probably a bit naively) think the dialogue at least would be more extended and meaningful in this run through.....i was disappointed. Though, to me, the death scene was more bittersweet it could've been done a lot better to reflect the meaningful romance between Thane and Shepard. At one point in ME2, Thane talks about how whatever time he has left is Shepard's to take. Shep says after spending 2 years dead every moment is important (along those lines anyway) so I agree with the statement of the character change in Thane. I'm not necessarily going to say he wouldn't come to accept it but still the content should be more meaningful in the respect of a romance.

[KENNY4753]

If Im correct Priestly said the dlc will become available after the coup attempt so technically since Thane doesnt die until you go to see him in the hospital there may still be hope for all you Thanemancers.

[Zakuspec089]

I hope this section doesn't get closed now. Thane was a cool character, this section isn't about characters but the story.

[_Heather_Shepard_]

Let's all hope our favorite Drell returns somehow. Or, at least, give us something with him. *sigh*

[john-in-france]

Getting back to the threads purpose.



A) Will we get Thane content?
If so what gameplay conditions need to be met to save Thane from death by Kai Leng?
C) Have Bioware forgotten us?

Chris Priestly wrote...

Citadel will take place anytime after the Citadel coup and before London on Earth.

Thane does not die during the Citadel Coup, that officially ends just after we save the Councillors. Any justification that he has to die from the wound inflicted by Kai Leng, is metagaming based on the deathbed dialogue as it currently stands.

Could Bioware write into the game the standard loyalty/condition check that is given to other ME2 characters such as Grunt. Yes they could.

Would having Thane alive, possibly add more to the Conspiracy plotline that Reddit suggests ends at Prothean ruins that may be on Kahje? Yes, often team mates give us more data in conversations. Take Jaavik to Thessia for example.

Given that the DLC is stated as being set after the Citadel Coup, we can take it as read that no dialogue or interraction with Thane will be changed before the Coup. Thus Kirrahe has become irrelevent. Thane is wounded protecting the Salarian Councillor.

Would a Conspiracy Plotline that led to Kahje give a cure for Keprals en-route, most likely not. However, we thought the Genophage cure was years away.

Today Bioware have promised to let us know some more about the DLC, until they confirm that there is absolutely no Thane content, we can speculate.

Bioware said that it listened to the fans.

Be nice, respect others opinions and LIs.

We have hope.

Modifié par john-in-france, 25 février 2013 - 09:27 .

[john-in-france]

Zakuspec089 wrote...

I hope this section doesn't get closed now. Thane was a cool character, this section isn't about characters but the story.

This thread is about the story, and what the DLC may add to it.
Stories revolve around characters.

[Tootles FTW]

Keythe Farley (Thane's VA) posted about the DLC on his Facebook page, and specifically highlighted this: From the article: "It's a "final, sentimental journey" with all-new cinematics and even the opportunity to "rekindle romances" with old paramours."

I'm not so optimistic where I'll look at this as a hint, as he's posted about other ME-related things that have nothing to do with Thane...but he acknowledged it's existance at the very least.  This is going to be a looooong week.

[Twilight_Princess]

Tootles FTW wrote...

Keythe Farley (Thane's VA) posted about the DLC on his Facebook page, and specifically highlighted this: From the article: "It's a "final, sentimental journey" with all-new cinematics and even the opportunity to "rekindle romances" with old paramours."

I'm not so optimistic where I'll look at this as a hint, as he's posted about other ME-related things that have nothing to do with Thane...but he acknowledged it's existance at the very least.  This is going to be a looooong week.

I'm hoping it was a hint *sigh* there's also a tiny ray of hope that because Thane doesn't die during the coup something can hopefully be changed during the hospital scene. You're right this is gonna be a loooong week. I'm also hoping for a trailer that shows a shred of hope too.

[john-in-france]

Hyrule_Gal wrote...

Tootles FTW wrote...

Keythe Farley (Thane's VA) posted about the DLC on his Facebook page, and specifically highlighted this: From the article: "It's a "final, sentimental journey" with all-new cinematics and even the opportunity to "rekindle romances" with old paramours."

I'm not so optimistic where I'll look at this as a hint, as he's posted about other ME-related things that have nothing to do with Thane...but he acknowledged it's existance at the very least.  This is going to be a looooong week.

I'm hoping it was a hint *sigh* there's also a tiny ray of hope that because Thane doesn't die during the coup something can hopefully be changed during the hospital scene. You're right this is gonna be a loooong week. I'm also hoping for a trailer that shows a shred of hope too.

Fingers crossed!

[tehprincessJ]

Maybe I'm alone, but the very first thing that popped into my mind when I read about said DLC was, "OMG, MOAR THANE."

I know I'm probably just setting myself up for more heartache, to have any kind of hope, but I'm going to be cautiously optimistic and just wait and see.

[TNT1991]

I don't know why everyone (well, those who had posted in this thread, at least) is against more Thane content or assuming that Thane fans/romancers only want to save/cure Thane and are insulting you guys to "shut up and get over it". In all honesty, if their favorite Li was in Thane's shoes, I doubt they, themselves will "get over it" (I know I wouldn't).

Anyway, even though I didn't romance Thane, the one thing I'm holding out for is something for the Thane romancers (maybe for Jacob, as well...maybe) in this DLC. While I doubt Bioware will cure Thane, I'm at least hoping for: 

(a) other characters (including Shepard) to take notice of him and his death
( to spend more time with him while he is alive
© for the writers to not forget Thane a second time and writes his romance arc in the DLC well (I'm really hoping for this one)

I support you guys and I hope Bioware will not forget about you or Thane. 

 

[john-in-france]

The biggest complaint after his death was exactly as you described, no crew reactions. I actually expected Garrus to be the one to say something as he always comes across as Shepards BFF if not romanced.

Love your avatar...my first reaction was...is that Garrus calibrating Mass Effect?

[TNT1991]

 I expected Garrus to say something about him too (since he was with me when Thane got stabbed), felt really out of place when he didn't and made me sad.

And thanks! Yeah, he is calibrating Mass Effect. lol 

[Kel Riever]

Thane, I know he dies and he's a beloved character. And yeah, if I were writing, not only would the ending not suck, but there would have been some insane way to save Thane for the players who went through all the trouble to do the right thing (and no, it would NOT be a fetch quest because you overheard two people talking on the Citadel).

Having said that, I think Thane gets a much better ending than Sheppard. Thane is mortally wounded fighting. Thane gets last words. Thane is at his bedside with the two people he cares about most in his life (potentially). So, as a character, he gets a good deal, given he is terminally ill from the moment you meet him.

What we need is a Kai Leng interrupt with Thane. THAT is what is missing. Kai Leng...hated for more than one cut-scene autodialogue reason....

[d4eaming]

I am still trying not to hope too much, else I'm just going to end up being bitterly disappointed and angry (and I'm going to be that whether I get my hopes up or not). I want proper Thane content so badly that I don't even want to finish my adept and move her into 3, I'm stalling on the SM so I have the romance scene to look forward to, but still... I adore Garrus, and he fits so well with my infiltrator, headshots everywhere, and I want to feel the same kind of thing for the adept and Thane. Knowing what happens though just really kills it, and it's hard to get past that. If there is no Thane in the DLC I probably won't even move my adept into the third game.

[Tootles FTW]

Yes, I don't understand people's need to condemn others for their opinion on the character arcs...especially when the ENTIRE BOARD on ME3 is 95% unanimously in agreeance that the writing in the game was way, way off.    I don't care two figs about Jack, for example, but just because my Shepard felt like she got all the time she needed with her in-game doesn't mean I can't grasp how someone else might call bullsh!t - especially if that someone else romanced her which places things in a whole new ballgame.

It's not like we're asking for content that will effect anyone else outside of people who would want to save/have more time with Thane.  Why the hostility?  Sheesh.

[d4eaming]

I've been wondering that myself. You want Thane to die? Then kill him if it makes you happy. Why do you have to crap all over someone else's enjoyment and playthrough if they get the option to save him? It's nothing but miserable people wanting other people to be miserable with them.

[_Heather_Shepard_]

^ Agreed completely. It's funny, too because they say that we are the ones crying because there was a lack of content. NO. We're upset because Thane was treated poorly and how FemShep was forced to choose a lesbian LI if Kaidan was killed in Virmire

[Sable Rhapsody]

Tootles FTW wrote...
It's not like we're asking for content that will effect anyone else outside of people who would want to save/have more time with Thane.  Why the hostility?  Sheesh.

People's conceptions of characters depend on their own playthroughs of the game.  For some gamers, the only side they've ever seen of Thane is consistent with his ME3 portrayal, so it doesn't make any sense for Thane to live in their eyes.  And besides, there's this notion that the characters are a zero-sum game: ie, giving more content to one character means taking screentime from another.  That's not strictly speaking true; there is a word budget, but you can have well-written dialogue of a few lines that conveys just as much as mediocre dialogue of a few dozen lines.  It's just a matter of writing quality.

[Renmiri1]

People are jerks, big surprise.

I hope we at least get a "flashback". Seeing Thane and Shepard on their planed trip to a Desert planet would be cool.

I'm way past it though, been through anger, denial, bargaining and acceptance. Bioware writers betrayed Thanemancers. There is no way around it, it is what they did. What they can do now is show us they didn't mean to forget us and try to make amends. Or not. I just don't care anymore. Being let down one more time will be fun.. NOT.

Modifié par Renmiri1, 26 février 2013 - 04:27 .

[d1ta]

Looking at Thane's VA's comment about Citadel DLC.. If he's there then shouldn't there be some content for Thane? Here's hoping that he's getting a beautifully written one for you all (one that didn't suck)

[Andromedamnit]

Not sure how this is going to work with Thane if the DLC is only available after the coup - hoping the docs find a way to patch him up from the KL fight and have him there to visit in the hospital some more, even if a full cure is still too much for futuristic medicine... The main thing for me is to have some more Thane content/conversations that are true to his original character. I want to be able to talk and confide in him the way you can with Liara if you choose to.
I'll be waiting to hear what the deal with Thane is before purchasing this at any rate.