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crimzontearz wrote...

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What we need is a Kai Leng interrupt with Thane. THAT is what is missing. Kai Leng...hated for more than one cut-scene autodialogue reason....

You make a really good point. I'm not sure if 'after the coup' means after Shepard lands on the Citadel or after Udina's death, but an interrupt to keep Kai from stabbing Thane might work really well.

1)  Shepard and crew won't feel so much like helpless bystanders during the Kai fight.
2) Thane won't die immediately, so he can be part of the 're-kindled romances'.
3) Paramour achievement should hopefully be gained because of 2.
4) Thane will still die later, so the original death scene isn't lost.
5) There's an opportunity for crew acknowledgement after 4.

I know it's not a cure, but as speculations go, what do you guys think? Other than the obvious fact that Thane still ends up dead, would you be content with it? I personally would be okay with something like this playing out in the Citadel DLC.

a class specific interrupt would be even better


Indeed - so many places a biotic or tech interupt would prevent the woes to come.

Soldier shepard - runs to the combatants and stops Kai Leng's sword gripping it with her armored hand which prompts Thane to b!tch slap Leng again before he runs away

Engineer Shepard - watches the two run to each other and overloads Kai leng optic implants prompting him to miss and run away

Adept Shepard - watches the two run to one another and lifts Leng Biotically before pushing him out of the window and onto the platform where he runs away

Infiltrator Shepard - watches the two run to one another and snipes the blade out of Leng's hand prompting him to run away

Sentinel Shepard - steps in between the two running at each other and deflects Kai leng's incoming attack with a tech armor plate

Vanguard Shepard - watches the two running at one another and vanguard charges between them causing Leng to bounce back...while still in mid air heel kicks him to the chest out of the window and onto the platform (this...is....SPARTA) promptung him to run away


Must be implemented, NAO!

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john-in-france wrote...

@ Crimsontearz: I still like the interrupts that you came up with. I also loved the Engineer one on Omega, that was fun...'Just as well I'm not a grunt.' ahahaha
Dad is stable, but has some new health problems on top of his existing ones.

Has anyone watched the Reckoning Livestream? At one point the fans asked about Blasto/Hanar and one of the Bioware staff quipped 'You'd have to see Citadel for that.' His colleagues then tried to blow it off after the ominous silence that normally means 'OMG he said that...'

Hanar in Citadel DLC = High probabilty :)



 
Stability is good


 
Also to the above poster, I am glad you like them but Bioware might consider them too videogamey and not artsy enough you see?

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The hanar news is interesting - we could assume, judging by the reaction, that they may play a substantial role. It's probably regarding the Shep conspiracy, though. I see no way how a full fix of the situation (treatment/cure becomes optional) could ever be possible at this stage.

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From what I gathered that comment was more aimed to Blasto... not general hanar?

We'll probably just see a reference to Blasto, maybe the actor, relax in the citadel or something.

Sorry, I'm a downer. :P

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Thrazesul wrote...

From what I gathered that comment was more aimed to Blasto... not general hanar?

We'll probably just see a reference to Blasto, maybe the actor, relax in the citadel or something.

Sorry, I'm a downer. :P

thanemancers have all my support but.....Bioware seems hellbent to ****** people off

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I've always said that a mere interrupt during Thane's fight with Kai Leng would have solved 90% of our issues. If they could add an interrupt so FemShep can kiss Thane mid-conversation like a crazy high school girl, there's no reason they couldn't have added another interrupt during the fight that actually meant something.

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I hope Thane survival isn't limited just because of gender/romance, however.

Thane was an LI and bro on seperate playthroughs.

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The entire Kai Leng fight is a joke. Thane could've easily mopped the floor with kai Leng no matter what condition he was in. Seriously. Of course, Shepard's inaction is just another layer of complete stupidity added to the mix.

Treatment regardless of relationship would be the best case scenario, but I still think the most important thing is for thanemancers to get the romance fixed.

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Thrazesul wrote...

From what I gathered that comment was more aimed to Blasto... not general hanar?

We'll probably just see a reference to Blasto, maybe the actor, relax in the citadel or something.

Sorry, I'm a downer. :P


This is what I thought too. That Blasto would be there. or maybe Blasto brings the cure for Thane :wizard:...unlikely.

Also this tweet from Mike Gamble doesn't make me feel any better for Thane content..since Thane isn't even considered a LI in ME3...:crying:
Oh, and the Citadel DLC will open up after the attempted coup on the Citadel. I would suggest completing the ME3 romances beforehand though.

Modifié par Jenlocks, 28 février 2013 - 04:58 .


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"Never lose hope"

Even though I'm almost sure there will be no way for Thane to survive (and no content with the exception of another letter/vid or condolences from the crew), there's a part of me that believes there was hidden message in all this:

- Thane's room barely touched, with his cup on the table
- Title of the letter "Never lose hope" as a secret message to Thanemancers to wait and see what's yet to come - I can't help it, sometimes I treat it that way
- BioWare was supporting a cure for some time or at least they acknowledged the movement back then, before deleting the site. Now they seem to not remember it...or are they just avoiding the topic because they don't want to spoil anything or lie about it
- CDN article: Eupulmos Device, it can heal lungs using nanotechnology (I think I can call it that- it was described as micro machines that can repair tissue)
- I find it odd that BioWare simply forgot about Thane. What if they did plan something, but couldn't finish that in time, so they did something quickly (came up with his role in Citadel Coup, which doesn't make much sense)
- They rarely do any comments about Thane and if they do, they seem to avoid the topic (maybe they just don't want to spoil anything).
- Let's say that 'complicated and spoilery' explanation for not speaking about Thane is in fact really honest and means that there will be many choices regarding Thane, making his situation complicated. 'Spoilery' means that somehow the main plot of the DLC starts with the end of Citadel Coup and can influence Thane. There must be a reason why this DLC starts after Citadel Coup, and not before, right? I know that we can start it whenever we want, but maybe something happens and it's up to us when we react to that. If we act fast, maybe we'll be able to save him and the price is, some of ME2 characters won't be involved in the plot then. For most of the people Thane would still die as they want it.

- Jessica said something like " This DLC is a kind of a love letter from BioWare to fans" (not exact quote, but the 'love letter' was there). I can't believe they would just decide to not include us. We love these games and somehow, we still do love BioWare for creating these games, why would they want to treat us so badly in response? It doesn't make sense. It doesn't make sense if we are going to be shafted again.

I am being delusional, I know. There were so many proofs that our opinion is not even welcomed here. I still remember their reactionor more accuarately, lack of reaction to Squeegee's Thane poster with quotes from Thane fans. But it all had to have some meaning, right? All insults that were thrown at Thane fans, the depressing game we had to experience, unlike any other fans, there has to be a reward for that.

The fact that I still hope for something will make me a very bitter and dissapointed person on 5th March.

Hey BioWare, there's an International Women's Day on 8th March, I hope you remembered about your female fanbase and made something special for us.

Modifié par Vlk3, 28 février 2013 - 08:54 .


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Jenlocks wrote...

Thrazesul wrote...

From what I gathered that comment was more aimed to Blasto... not general hanar?

We'll probably just see a reference to Blasto, maybe the actor, relax in the citadel or something.

Sorry, I'm a downer. :P


This is what I thought too. That Blasto would be there. or maybe Blasto brings the cure for Thane :wizard:...unlikely.

Also this tweet from Mike Gamble doesn't make me feel any better for Thane content..since Thane isn't even considered a LI in ME3...:crying:
Oh, and the Citadel DLC will open up after the attempted coup on the Citadel. I would suggest completing the ME3 romances beforehand though.


Blarg.  Well, this confirms what I'll be doing this weekend.  Image IPB  I had a save immediately post-coup to see if I could save Thane, but if I need to complete Garrus's romance to get the DLC content immediately then I'll have to suck it up and resign myself to 'no Thane' on my mainShep unless I replay it down the road.

My second Shep is my Thanemancer, anyways, so that's where it really matters...and by the time I get to her I will know for certain if it's worth it to even play via YouTube vids.  .......I really, REALLY hope it will be worth it.  Image IPB

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Apparently, there is a small amount of romance-exclusive Thane content, per Dusty Everman.

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jtav wrote...

Apparently, there is a small amount of romance-exclusive Thane content, per Dusty Everman.


Quote?

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"Well, obviously we can't have zombie-Thane running around, but there is a small amount of content that only Thane romancers will see."

Check the Cortez group.

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Oh, so extended dying scene, great. Confirmed that Thane dies anyway.

Thanks for the info...

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jtav wrote...

"Well, obviously we can't have zombie-Thane running around, but there is a small amount of content that only Thane romancers will see."

Check the Cortez group.

you do realize that pretty much confirms he stays dead and at best you get a lil video message right?

Modifié par crimzontearz, 28 février 2013 - 09:16 .


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crimzontearz wrote...

jtav wrote...

"Well, obviously we can't have zombie-Thane running around, but there is a small amount of content that only Thane romancers will see."

Check the Cortez group.

you do realize that pretty much confirms he stays dead and at best you get a lol video message right?

And this shocks anyone? The DLC was never going to change anything, just add to it.

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And why post this only to the Cortez group? Couldn't this be posted where most Thanemancers could see it?

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jtav wrote...

crimzontearz wrote...

jtav wrote...

"Well, obviously we can't have zombie-Thane running around, but there is a small amount of content that only Thane romancers will see."

Check the Cortez group.

you do realize that pretty much confirms he stays dead and at best you get a lol video message right?

And this shocks anyone? The DLC was never going to change anything, just add to it.

feels more like rubbing salt on it but that's me

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feels more like rubbing salt on it but that's me

This pretty much. All other romances do get more stuff in the DLC. So things do get changed from the vanilla game.

Except for Jacob, Thane might get a holovid since he didn't count as a LI. Bah.

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Well it might be a good scene, keeping my fingers crossed. One of the sad things was how no one remembered Thane, perhaps this situation will be fixed now? Can't do much more than guess at the moment.

edit: having two FemSheps who romanced Jacob, unless they can tell him how horribly he has acted towards her during the break-up they are not interested in seeing him. They got the rest of the crew to hang with. I would rather see them trying to do something for Thane than spend time on Jacob. Don't see that situation could be fixed.

Modifié par SilentK, 28 février 2013 - 09:25 .


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SilentK wrote...

Well it might be a good scene, keeping my fingers crossed. One of the sad things was how no one remembered Thane, perhaps this situation will be fixed now? Can't do much more than guess at the moment.


I don't know, I expected that there will be nothing. What we will get is pretty much nothing, even though there is some romance exclusive content confirmed. It doesn't make me happy, we deserved more than that. Thane didn't have to die, and while others get a a fun, lighthearted story, we will get just more "bittersweat" or rather bitter and depressing content. What will be there? Thane saying: Don't worry, we'll meet across the sea and make a triangle with Irikah? OR maybe: Look, Liara and Samantha are free and eager to jump into your bed, this can't be that bad! Or cheesy line like: Promise me, that you will move on and try to live happily.

This is just sick.This game is done for me.

Modifié par Vlk3, 28 février 2013 - 09:30 .


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So the "complicated" issue was that it was a small amount of content? Wow just when I thought this DLC would finally be the apology the Thane fans deserve BW just gives them the finger again. Fan service DLC? Only if you picked the "right" love interests.

Modifié par Hyrule_Gal, 28 février 2013 - 09:40 .


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At this point a holovid, funeral, or other crew remembering Thane is too little, too late in my opinion. And I say that as a person who didn't romance Thane, but considered him a friend to my Shep. All of this should have been in the game at the very least.

To make a comparison as to why this isn't enough, I'll make an example with Garrus. I'm a Garrusmancer. Some of us have issues with his too quick fade to black romance scene.

Suppose this DLC comes out and everyone has romance scenes. Everyone has a nice detailed scene on par with Liara's in the vanilla game. Garrus gets another 30 second fade to black.

People, as well as myself, would be spitting mad because everyone else LI got a nice scene, so why not Garrus? Substitute Thane in there and you'll see why Thane fans are upset. Everyone else gets nice content, but they'll possibly get just a vid. It's unequal treatment.

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Nice to... know.

And seriously zombie- Thane? Wow.

Might as well brace ourselves for those going "suit yourself, you picked the wrong character!" 

LOL

Modifié par Thrazesul, 28 février 2013 - 09:48 .