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Thanemancers and the Citadel DLC


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FlyinElk212 wrote...

Look, Bioware isn't stupid, they aren't just going to disinclude ONE character from the ME Squads in the trilogy. I'm sure they've come up w/ a creative way to provide content for Thane.


*looks at ME3*

Objection your Honor, assumes facts not in evidence.

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Hmm. I am playing a thanemancing Shepard now, so obviously the Citadel DLC news made me feel giddy.

Since I was already over my initial reluctance to tackle Thane´s romance again (in ME3 OR in ME2 for that matter), the news that seem -to my eyes, at least- to imply no extra content for him in this DLC have left me exactly where I was before - giddy :)

Besides, there is always James. James, whom to stalk aboard Normandy. Who never loves you back. And makes ideal hangover food. Perfect match for a Shepard With A Somewhat Sucky Love-Life :D

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as I said... and I guess that thes won´t be the only one character ...

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My guess is that his son will make a appearance...where they may share something that belonged to Thane.

I think this would be the best outcome , next to resurrection.

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LanceSolous13 wrote...

Menzen tweeted that Thane is 'complicated and spoilery'.

Could we still have hope?


Between this and someone pointing out to me that Thane dies after the Coup, and was (only?) stabbed during the Coup ... I still have some (misguided) hope.

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john-in-france wrote...

Any more Thanemancers out there?


Here, and....well, not worried, exactly, more not particularly hopeful. Having had a day to think about it I suspect the best we're going to get is maybe, maybe some kind of convo that references the fact that Thane died - a toast or something - but honestly it's been a year and I'm not sure that something as basic as "Thane: he still died and you never got a date with him, but here's a toast" is enough to ressurect my canon Shepard for. She's long buried and I've managed to headcanon-fix the whole thing into something tragic and bittersweet instead of how disjointed and weird the whole arc came across in-game, and...I don't know. I'd ressurect her for more time with Thane, but other than that I'm not sure it would be worth it.

As an aside though: does anybody else suspect that what we're going to get is actually some Kolyat content? That tweet about Thane's inclusion being potentially complicated/spoilery got me thinking, and well: he's got plot armour, there's nothing stopping him from performing an active role as a supporting character in this DLC even if Thane got killed in the SM*, he's got C-sec connections, Bailey was at one point making a point of keeping him under his wing, and well: Bailey seems the go-to guy if there's something mysterious going on in the Citadel and Shep needs some leads. Oh, and one of the very early ME3 scripts had Kolyat getting mixed up in a Citadel-based plot, which later got cut (I'm not saying this mission will come back because compared to what they're billing this DLC as, the scripted mission was pretty short and bland and also covered a lot of what Sanctuary ended up covering, but I do wonder if it may have evolved and merged into this somehow). If he was a standard plot-element in this DLC, it wouldn't be too hard to give Thanemancers some exclusive content, even though it may be in a different form from what some hoped.

I don't know, I'm probably grasping at straws here but it would be nice to see him again. Thoughts?


(* Well, okay, if you failed Thane's LM he winds up a wanted criminal, but Thane's death scene seems to ignore that anyway since he's wandering around a presidium hospital just fine, so...)

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LanceSolous13 wrote...

Menzen tweeted that Thane is 'complicated and spoilery'.

Could we still have hope?


This is what gives me a little bit of hope for Thanemancers.  Although I personally was not a Thanemancer, I have several friends who are and I have to agree that what happened to him was utterly reprehensible.  And it is something that has been admitted as a mistake, so that along with this tweet, I am hoping that Bioware will go a long way towards fixing the issue.  Now granted I don't know what Bioware knows but, is there really anything to be gained by not giving Thane a crap load of content in this dlc? 

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I thought I entered the wrong thread when i saw my name at the top. Yeah I didn't think about all of you Thanemancers out there, how can rekindle a romance if your other half is dead.

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Nykara wrote...

lyssalu wrote...

Legbiter wrote...

That's a hazard when dating the terminally ill, they tend to die on you.


yeah, of terminal illness


Yeah but its Science Fiction so there is always hope that writers can do whatever the heck they want!

I mean Shepard died between ME1 and ME2.


And people cried bloody murder for it. I'm not pointing at you here, but there's an essence of hypocrisy to those who have no care in the world as long as Thane lives; but will scream injustice and 'bad writing' when the Lazarus project is involved.

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Thane disease was magically changed to make sure he died on you anyway so.....that is kinda telling

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Since the DLC takes place after his death, the best you can hope for is maybe another letter, a conversation with his son, or a greybox. Or maybe something about Thane in the Citadel archives.

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Miranda probably won't feature in it either.
Once again the straight male players will get shafted, just like we did with Aria, the threesome with Ashley and Liara and having to make the impossible choice between staying loyal to Liara or giving it to Miranda.

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Really, the only practical solution to this would be to rewrite or somehow expand the Kai Leng fight scene so as to give Thane the chance to actually survive it if certain requirements are met. Anything else simply wouldn't work.

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There is a way without breaking canon.

If you save Kirrahe in ME, but Thane dies or is not recruited in ME2, then Kirrahe fights Kai Leng.
Perhaps the complication is simply if Kirrahe lives he becomes the default character to fight KL, otherwise uhuh.

There was also mention of a lung transplant in ME2, which whilst it did not cure Keprals, it extended the lifespan.

So it is possible...in theory and lore for Thane to still be around for Citadel DLC.

Ok...I just want him back in the empty Life Support room...it feels so weird, his mug is on the table.

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Well, Thanemancer here but I've already voiced here and there what I think about this. It seems like a bad move to say the dlc involves meeting ME2 people and then not involve all of them.

As for the "can't reveal information due to spoilers" I don't buy that. It would be spoilery to say he isn't mentioned at all, along with Jacob. :P

We'll just have to wait and see, this dlc has a lot of eyes on it and a lot of decisions to be determined by it.

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Legbiter wrote...

That's a hazard when dating the terminally ill, they tend to die on you.

Terminally ill people don't usually die impaled by a space ninja's sword while having a gun in their hand and 3 well-trained soldiers at their side just watching what's going on. And maybe other people should be aware they finally died and comment about it or express their condolences or something. I always romance Garrus but I understand why Thanemancers are so upset and disappointed: there's no romance scene (it's Jack kiss animation and Thane is there for... for the VS?), he's impaled no matter what under awfully written circumstances and nobody cares he's died. Nobody.

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Technically Thane dies after the Citadel coup, so who knows, maybe he's actually in it. Kolyat is supposed to be on the Citadel so there's a chance there could be some content related to Thane.

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Talking to Thane's son would be nice but wouldn't that be equal with having say, only an option to talk to Miranda's sister instead of Miranda? I don't think people would have been happy with that either... =/

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TheProtheans wrote...

Miranda probably won't feature in it either.
Once again the straight male players will get shafted, just like we did with Aria, the threesome with Ashley and Liara and having to make the impossible choice between staying loyal to Liara or giving it to Miranda.


Who says that Miranda wont be in the DLC? I mean, there is even a screenshot with her, Wrex, Garrus, Liara, Kaidan and Shepard.

And yeah, I feel sorry for you Thanemancers.When I first played ME3 my first reaction to Thanes dead was, ''Damn, all those Thancemancers aren't going to be happy.''

Always liked Thane, hope for you guys that he gets some content!

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i cant believe they insist on killing off a terminally ill guy

Modifié par Samtheman63, 22 février 2013 - 06:00 .


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Samtheman63 wrote...

i cant believe they insist on killing off a terminally ill guy

I can't believe they retconned his disease's natureto make sure it made sense for him to certainly die

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john-in-france wrote...

There is a way without breaking canon.

If you save Kirrahe in ME, but Thane dies or is not recruited in ME2, then Kirrahe fights Kai Leng.
Perhaps the complication is simply if Kirrahe lives he becomes the default character to fight KL, otherwise uhuh.

There was also mention of a lung transplant in ME2, which whilst it did not cure Keprals, it extended the lifespan.

So it is possible...in theory and lore for Thane to still be around for Citadel DLC.

Ok...I just want him back in the empty Life Support room...it feels so weird, his mug is on the table.



That's why I found it so strange this wasn't taken into consideration if you have both of them alive, at least let people choose who KL fights in this scenario! But then again little was taken into consideration regarding Thane's appearance in ME3. Magical changing illness,  character development forgotten about (If you romanced him), dlc hints of treatment never mentioned again, kiss copied from the jack romance, letter copied straight from LotSB and every other  ME2 cameo got choices except him *Sigh*. I’m naively hoping they did an overhaul for a romanced Thane during the coup that results him living to make up for the fact they forgot he was an LI ,sorry “dropped the ball”. It’s what his fans deserve for getting this disappointing afterthought of a romance if I can call 1 conversation that.

Also it’s nice to see all the supportive responses here, he was my second fav LI pre-ME3 and I hope this DLC makes up for the neglect and the mistakes.

John if you wanted to chat to other Thane fans about this head over to the ME 1&2 character board if you want to ^_^ After the ME3 romance board was taken down they all migrated there LOL.

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Mark Alarton wrote...

TheProtheans wrote...

Miranda probably won't feature in it either.
Once again the straight male players will get shafted, just like we did with Aria, the threesome with Ashley and Liara and having to make the impossible choice between staying loyal to Liara or giving it to Miranda.


Who says that Miranda wont be in the DLC? I mean, there is even a screenshot with her, Wrex, Garrus, Liara, Kaidan and Shepard.

And yeah, I feel sorry for you Thanemancers.When I first played ME3 my first reaction to Thanes dead was, ''Damn, all those Thancemancers aren't going to be happy.''

Always liked Thane, hope for you guys that he gets some content!


She has other commitments elsewhere, they can't retcon that, can they?

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Nykara wrote...

lyssalu wrote...

Legbiter wrote...

That's a hazard when dating the terminally ill, they tend to die on you.


yeah, of terminal illness


Yeah but its Science Fiction so there is always hope that writers can do whatever the heck they want!

I mean Shepard died between ME1 and ME2.

They never gave hope...At all. You were told he was dieing in time where the worst sickness we have now are looked at as nothing.
And guess what...he died. As what was expected.