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[JECW]

alsonamedbort wrote...

Renmiri1 wrote...

Brovikk Rasputin wrote...

holy lol that Chris Priestly tweet.
Nice one! 

Yup we are completely making up the fact that BSN users treat us like garbage.

LOL like "gargbage?"  You are being so overdramatic.

Can you stop.
The mod said stay on topic. If you can't do so then leave.

[Versus Omnibus]

TNT1991 wrote...

To keep this thread going:

Before ME3, if Thane was to die, I always expected Thane to sacrifice himself for a cure for kepral's syndrome and to save future Drell from the disease. Not by a cereal ninja.

Did I mention that no one remembers -or even mentions- him? <_< 
  

Honestly, I think anybody expecting him to be cured was waiting to be disappointed. His whole character was based around a man dying and making the most of his time. He made up with his son; found love again in Femshep; and helped save thousands, if not millions, of lifes to make up for all the people he has killed. All that was needed now was him to die peacefully and painlessly.

But what do we get? A random space ninja shows up, stabs Thane in the chest, and runs off while Shepard just watches the whole damn thing. We don't even get the achievement/trophy for romances in the game! If that doesn't say anything about how bad the romance was handled I don't know what will.

[alsonamedbort]

JECW wrote...

alsonamedbort wrote...

Renmiri1 wrote...

Brovikk Rasputin wrote...

holy lol that Chris Priestly tweet.
Nice one! 

Yup we are completely making up the fact that BSN users treat us like garbage.

LOL like "gargbage?"  You are being so overdramatic.

Can you stop.
The mod said stay on topic. If you can't do so then leave.

I don't see how this is off-topic.  The topic is clearly about how Thane was mistreated and his fans were treated poorly.  I don't think this is true.

[Versus Omnibus]

alsonamedbort wrote...

I don't see how this is off-topic.  The topic is clearly about how Thane was mistreated and his fans were treated poorly.  I don't think this is true.

Then discuss why you disagree with Thanemancers' perception on the romance being mistreated. Poking fun at other users is off-topic and considered spam. I've already reported you and I will again if you continue to derail the thread.

Moving on.

[alsonamedbort]

TNT1991 wrote...
Did I mention that no one remembers -or even mentions- him? <_< 
 

I think this is a very valid complaint, although it pretty much happens with every LI except for Kaidan/Ashley, who obviously get prime billing in the "I'm grieving over my friends" moments.

[alsonamedbort]

Versus Omnibus wrote...

alsonamedbort wrote...

I don't see how this is off-topic.  The topic is clearly about how Thane was mistreated and his fans were treated poorly.  I don't think this is true.

Then discuss why you disagree with Thanemancers' perception on the romance being mistreated.

That's fair.  Obviously I understand people are disappointed, but it's not like everyone got in a room and decided that they wanted to offend all Thane fans and romancers.  And glib humor on twitter is pretty much the most common type of tweet.  I obviously think he would have made that joke about any LI that was dead, and I personally would've thought it was funny.  I just don't see how that is evidence of Thane and their fans' mistreatment.

[New Display Name]

There's dialog for remembering Thane's death...if he died in ME2.

[wiccame]

The problem is not that he dies, the problem is this dlc which is supposed to give some more time with LI among other things. Thane romancers barely got any time with him at all, and this dlc was kind of a big hope for more time with him. But how can that happen now if its post coup? The best we can hope for is a video message, another email or swapping scant memories with Kolyat? (Thats a big difference to spending time with LI)
If its a dlc you can keep coming back to, wouldn't it have been more fair if they made it pre coup? Then at least we could have had some time with him and not just memories.

[EnaShepard]

alsonamedbort wrote...

Versus Omnibus wrote...

alsonamedbort wrote...

I don't see how this is off-topic.  The topic is clearly about how Thane was mistreated and his fans were treated poorly.  I don't think this is true.

Then discuss why you disagree with Thanemancers' perception on the romance being mistreated.

That's fair.  Obviously I understand people are disappointed, but it's not like everyone got in a room and decided that they wanted to offend all Thane fans and romancers.  And glib humor on twitter is pretty much the most common type of tweet.  I obviously think he would have made that joke about any LI that was dead, and I personally would've thought it was funny.  I just don't see how that is evidence of Thane and their fans' mistreatment.

Well, after a year, someone at Bioware must have mentioned the "Thane problem". And still, they made the DLC Post-Coup.

[sH0tgUn jUliA]

I romanced Thane. I want him there for the party. There is some important information needed. Kolyat, since the party is going to be post Citadel coup, and Thane is going to croak before the party, which do Drell customs allow? Open or closed casket? Because we are going to toast Thane and remember him.

[Tootles FTW]

I have nothing to contribute except to say that this is very disappointing. Thanemancers get a "small amount" of content? To me, that equates another email. Joy. Guess only my Garrus-manced Shepard's will see the light of ME3...

I appreciate that they finally told us, though, so the fans who choose to save their money can do so.

[Lionel Ou]

HiddenInWar wrote...

Addictress wrote...

Renmiri1 wrote...

spirosz wrote...

RShara wrote...

And all we get back from it is trolling, ignoring, and rudeness.

From who Bioware?  

Yup, even from bioware

Wow.

I don't even romance thane, but that wasn't nice at all.

I think I've taken Bioware completely the wrong way. That tweet, the ending... it's approaching old school CCP levels of trolling.

I need to recalibrate my responses a bit.

[KBomb]

alsonamedbort wrote...


That's fair.  Obviously I understand people are disappointed, but it's not like everyone got in a room and decided that they wanted to offend all Thane fans and romancers.  And glib humor on twitter is pretty much the most common type of tweet.  I obviously think he would have made that joke about any LI that was dead, and I personally would've thought it was funny.  I just don't see how that is evidence of Thane and their fans' mistreatment.

They didn't think of those who romanced Thane at all. A dev admited they flubbed the romance portion of Thane's death because they didn't think about it.

[Weltea]

KBomb wrote...

alsonamedbort wrote...


That's fair.  Obviously I understand people are disappointed, but it's not like everyone got in a room and decided that they wanted to offend all Thane fans and romancers.  And glib humor on twitter is pretty much the most common type of tweet.  I obviously think he would have made that joke about any LI that was dead, and I personally would've thought it was funny.  I just don't see how that is evidence of Thane and their fans' mistreatment.

They didn't think of those who romanced Thane at all. A dev admited they flubbed the romance portion of Thane's death because they didn't think about it.

Well I figured as much because the entire dying scene already sounds very forced with a FemShep and not really sense making unlike with a ManShep,which I took to mean they wrote the M!Shep dialogue first and then at some point remembered there's a Fem!Shep too... It makes sense they forgot about the romance even more...

[KBomb]

Weltea wrote...

Well I figured as much because the entire dying scene already sounds very forced with a FemShep and not really sense making unlike with a ManShep,which I took to mean they wrote the M!Shep dialogue first and then at some point remembered there's a Fem!Shep too... It makes sense they forgot about the romance even more...

Well, here is the actual quote.

From Patrick Weekes’ LiveJournal:

Yeah, I wasn’t in charge of Thane, but I see Thane’s death situation as one of those things that’s the drawback of a large writing team. Lots of followers talk about the Citadel Event in terms of what happens with the VS, but because Thane was optional, it didn’t click with any of us that the player could also have just lost a friend or loved one THERE as well. That was a dropped ball on our end.

[Battlebloodmage]

I guess I sorta understand the feeling of being shafted. There were straight and lesbian relationship for two whole games before it's finally available in the third game. There is a feeling of being cast-aside with cases like this. The game is catered first and foremost to straight male gamers, so other groups usually get the leftover in term of content. I guess the situation is a bit reverse since the straight female players go from having equal treatment to nothing while the M/M fans go from nothing to something. While I don't have a stake in this, I do hope you guys get closure with Citidel DLC. It seems like Bioware focuses more on romance with this DLC.

[radishson]

sH0tgUn jUliA wrote...

I romanced Thane. I want him there for the party. There is some important information needed. Kolyat, since the party is going to be post Citadel coup, and Thane is going to croak before the party, which do Drell customs allow? Open or closed casket? Because we are going to toast Thane and remember him.

Hell yeah!  What if the party turns out to be one big funeral bash?

[Reptilian Rob]

Legbiter wrote...

john-in-france wrote...

Yes, they do. However this DLC is being described as re-uniting you with ME1/2 team mates and rekindling old romances. 

Maybe they'll have a wheezing hologram of Thane delivering a final message. 

Actually I know someone who works at BW. Thane's thing is basically just Mac Walters and the BW staff in holographic form mooning you while Wrex and Garrus tell you they were just your friends for the free beer. 

After that the ending is the same and you have to traverse the nine circles of hell to get out of EA's trap. 

[Reptilian Rob]

Lionel Ou wrote...

HiddenInWar wrote...

Addictress wrote...

Renmiri1 wrote...

spirosz wrote...

RShara wrote...

And all we get back from it is trolling, ignoring, and rudeness.

From who Bioware?  

Yup, even from bioware

Wow.

I don't even romance thane, but that wasn't nice at all.

I think I've taken Bioware completely the wrong way. That tweet, the ending... it's approaching old school CCP levels of trolling.

I need to recalibrate my responses a bit.

10/10 troll though, you have to give it to him. 

[LoonySpectre]

There are only two squadmates that are guaranteed to die before the ending no matter what player does: Thane and Legion. Anyone else can be kept alive if Shepard plays his/her cards right.

Ashley/Kaidan
- can die on Virmire in ME1
- can be gunned down by Shepard's squad during the Cerberus coup in ME3
- otherwise survives until London.

Liara
- survives until London.

Garrus
- can die in a botched Suicide Mission in ME2;
- otherwise survives until London.

Tali
- can die in a botched Suicide Mission in ME2;
- can die if Shepard chooses geth over quarians in ME3;
- otherwise survives until London.

Wrex
- can die on Virmire in ME1;
- absent from ME2 (and ME3) if not recruited in ME1;
- can die in ME3 if the genophage cure was sabotaged;
- otherwise survives until London.

Miranda
- can die in a botched Suicide Mission in ME2;
- can die at the hands of Kai Leng if Shepard doesn't give her all necessary information or breaks up their romance.
- otherwise survives until London.

Jacob
- can die in a botched Suicide Mission in ME2;
- otherwise survives until London and breaks up with FShep if romanced.

Mordin
- can die in a botched Suicide Mission in ME2;
- can die in ME3 on Tuchanka;
- survives until London if Wrex and Eve are dead and the genophage cure is sabotaged.

Grunt
- can die in a botched Suicide Mission in ME2;
- absent from ME3 if his tank wasn't activated;
- can die in ME3 if not loyal;
- otherwise survives until London.

Jack
- can die in a botched Suicide Mission in ME2;
- can be killed by Shepard's squad in ME3 if not evacuated from the Grissom Academy;
- otherwise survives until London.

Samara
- can die in a botched Suicide Mission in ME2;
- absent from ME3 if not recruited in ME2;
- can commit suicide in ME3 unless interrupted;
- otherwise survives until London.

Kasumi
- can die in a botched Suicide Mission in ME2;
- absent from ME3 if not recruited in ME2;
- can die in ME3 if not loyal;
- otherwise survives until London.

Zaeed
- can die in a botched Suicide Mission in ME2;
- absent from ME3 if not recruited in ME2;
- can die in ME3 if not loyal;
- otherwise survives until London.

James
- survives until London.

EDI
- survives until London, can die during the ending if Destroy was chosen.

Javik
- survives until London.

And now...

Legion
- can die in a botched Suicide Mission in ME2;
- absent from ME3 if not activated in ME2;
- dies in all outcomes of geth/quarian conflict in ME3 (either personality dissemination or gunned down by Tali/Shala'Raan);
- can be killed by Shepard's squad in ME3 if sold to Cerberus in ME2.

Thane
- can die in a botched Suicide Mission in ME2;
- absent from ME3 if not recruited in ME2;
- dies after the Cerberus coup (either stabbed by Kai Leng or completely off-screen).

Basically, Shepard can directly influence whether all of his former and current squadmates live until the end of ME3... except two of them. And even Legion is technically alive, just not in a platform.

I'll even throw in all non-squadmate love interests, just for the heck of it.

Kelly Chambers
- can die if the Suicide Mission is delayed in ME2;
- can die during the Cerberus coup if not told to change identity by Shepard;
- otherwise presumably survives.

Diana Allers
- can die if not recruited/kicked out from Normandy;
- otherwise survives until London.

Samantha Traynor
- survives until London.

Steve Cortez
- can die in London if not at least befriended by Shepard;
- otherwise survives.

So, of all the squadmates and all possible love interests, Thane indeed got the worst treatment. The only LI guaranteed to die and the only squadmate to have an offscreen death during the events of the main game.

[AVPen]

LoonySpectre wrote...

So, of all the squadmates and all possible love interests, Thane indeed got the worst treatment. The only LI guaranteed to die and the only squadmate to have an offscreen death during the events of the main game.

No offense intended, dude, but I think the Jacob fans (if there are any still left around) might disagree with you on that one.

Modifié par AVPen, 04 mars 2013 - 06:15 .

[LoonySpectre]

Romance-wise, Jacobmancers were probably treated even worse, indeed. Romancing a terminally ill man, knowing perfectly he won't last long, is one thing. Romancing a perfectly healthy and supposedly honest and idealistic man who then impregnates some other girl while you were unavailable and promptly dumps you is quite a kick in the teeth.

Modifié par LoonySpectre, 04 mars 2013 - 11:55 .