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[d4eaming]

Darth Brotarian wrote...

So I'm assuming all of you have played the dlc and seen the thane related content in the dlc, in context and fully, to claim that this dlc didn't offer you anything right?

Or are you people using space magic to justify seeing what all other people have not, and played this dlc a day before it was released.

Did you see the multitude of OTHER LIs in the trailer?

And only a tiny little miscule 2 second blip of Kolyat?

And Jacob was in the final photo at the end, but there are no drell?

[Battlebloodmage]

Vlk3 wrote...

Battlebloodmage wrote...

Is the main issue with Thane regarding the DLC is the retcon of his death or the lack of interaction with him?

It depends on person.
Some people would just like to have Thane alive for longer time, even if he still would have to die.

Some would like the possibility of his survival and nothing other than that would satisfy them (count me here).

When I want sexy times, I go visit my boyfriend. I don't need a romance scene in the game to think it is good. What I want from game is at least a small glimpse of hope. I find it difficult to believe in afterlife, so for me, Shep and Thane most likely never meet again. And I can't stand that. I wanted it to be left open to interpretation, something similar to breath scene. So that one day, when relays are fixed, Thane and Shep could wander around  the galaxy and shoot bad people.

Now, I have to come up with a headcanon for the whole ME3 game. It's starts like that: when Shepard takes breath, she regains consciousness and starts to realise, her surrounding change. Another moment and she's suddenly able to see what's there for real. She's on the Normandy, rescued from the failed 'Arrival' mission. ME3 was only a nightmare, inflicted on Shepard while Reapers tried to indoctrinate her. Now, the true story begins.  Did they succed? Will she be able to command the Normandy after the trauma the fake memories caused in her? And a lot more.

Yeah, Thane's death is not acceptable in my story and as far as I'm concerned, Shepard and Thane are still there:

Thane would have died eventually though due to his terminal illness, so I think that making him better for no reason would have been fan-service. I know the risk from the beginning, so my femShep file went for Garrus instead. I would have preferred if his death panned out a bit different though or at least allow him to live and let people headcannon how the rest of the romance played out after the ending. Although I still don't understand why the only unreconcile romance is only happened to Shepard with Jacob and Thane. Why couldn't Miranda or Jack cheated? 

[CronoDragoon]

dreman9999 wrote...
He is died. What more Thane content then that can they do outside of a funeral? Zombie Thane...Weekend at Thane's?

Maybe it will spawn a new ME dance craze?

www.youtube.com/watch

Modifié par CronoDragoon, 04 mars 2013 - 08:47 .

[Vlk3]

BeanieBat wrote...

I think after getting only one incredibly lousy conversation with Thane in ME3, where he acted out of character and had magically changed his disease from ME2 and it was forgotten that he was an LI, we deserve a bit more than a funeral/memorial service - an acknowledgement of his death that should have been in the game to being with.

As the DLC is not going to fix any of the nonsense that we were given before his death, then I don't think Kolyat being there is enough to make up for it. We'll still have to hear Shep say she wasn't there to visit him in answer to his email, but was instead there to visit Kaidan (who I personally find boring and try to avoid). And we'll still have to listen to Thane describe the new disease that BioWare decided to give him as the death blow before he jumped on Leng's sword, because the ME2 disease obviously didn't sound bad enough. While the DLC might help after the coup, the rubbish before the coup will still be there to prevent us from wanting to play the game again.

Of course, I don't know what is in the DLC, so I guess we'll just have to wait and see. But I have lost interest in this game and I don't think the DLC will change that, so I'll not be playing it unless I'm given a damn good reason to.

Seconded. That's exactly the reason this DLC can't really satisfy me.
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And to answer one trollish post: I chose Thane, not Liara, Garrus or others. Trust me, I really like most of the characters that are in the game, but Thane is my favorite and his treatment doesn't allow me to enjoy other characters as much as I used to.

I assume you don't come to Liara threads and tell her fans to romance someone else, because you don't like the fact that they're fans of Liara? ;] If you didn't do that, then I encourage you to go there now. (Or to any other character specific thread).

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I should go.

[Wuartz]

Belyn wrote...

Wuartz wrote...
I'm a Thanemancer, and I was excited for the news of more Thane content. I am irritated over the amount of complaining coming from many.

Then I would recommend you stop trying to control others and deal with your frustration. People are going to complain. You don't have to take part in it. It's not your job to stop it. You can't change their minds. You wrote you're excited for more content, good for you. Others have a different opinion. 

Alright, you have a point. It's just that it's clear the developers care deeply for this DLC, and I was just hoping they would get some praise for once. And I don't want anyone to miss the goodbye of the trilogy.

I am very excited for this DLC, even as a Thanemancer. This is my opinion.

[Hainkpe]

dreman9999 wrote...
I'm not taking delight in any one's pain. I'm just being realistic. The most content they can do for Thane is give him a better good bye, a way for his family and friend to say good bye.

Why is a furneral a bad thing?

Because the trailer says to have one last adventure and reunite with old friends. 

Last time I looked, a funeral isn't an adventure and it's certainly not reuniting. It's an ending. 

Bioware made the choice they did. It was there's to make. I disagree with that choice. Simple as that. You don't have to accept my opinion and I don't have to change it. 

[Cainhurst Crow]

d4eaming wrote...

Darth Brotarian wrote...

So I'm assuming all of you have played the dlc and seen the thane related content in the dlc, in context and fully, to claim that this dlc didn't offer you anything right?

Or are you people using space magic to justify seeing what all other people have not, and played this dlc a day before it was released.

Did you see the multitude of OTHER LIs in the trailer?

And only a tiny little miscule 2 second blip of Kolyat?

And Jacob was in the final photo at the end, but there are no drell?

So it's mental alchemic extrapolation than? Turning a two second clip into evidence for absolutly nothing in the dlc?

The speculative space magic is strong in this place, along with psychic future predicting energy, apparently.

[AVPen]

d4eaming wrote...

JECW wrote...

We are not talking about him dying. Did any of you read?
We didn't get any real content. We might get a funeral when everyone else get's to spend time when their LI. A funeral that should have been in the game.
All they had to do was make this before the coup. By putting it after the coup they made sure we got nothing.

Garrus is my "canon" female Shepard LI and the whole thing still ticks me off. I'll have to force my adept through to see the "LI only" content. Does that mean my male Shepard doesn't get anything as a friend?

I'm genuinely curious about this, too - I never romanced Thane, but my John Shepard considered him a good friend and valuable crewmember, so I'd be a little disappointed if this funeral/memorial scene (if that's what that scene with Kolyat in the trailer was about) is restricted only to the FemSheps who romanced him or if MaleShep can't talk to Kolyat about Thane.

[Hainkpe]

dreman9999 wrote...
He is died. What more Thane content then that can they do outside of a funeral? Zombie Thane...Weekend at Thane's?

This comes off in a mocking tone. I think there's enough mocking and taking delight at another's expense. Please stop. It's not helping. 

[JECW]

Darth Brotarian wrote...

d4eaming wrote...

Darth Brotarian wrote...

So I'm assuming all of you have played the dlc and seen the thane related content in the dlc, in context and fully, to claim that this dlc didn't offer you anything right?

Or are you people using space magic to justify seeing what all other people have not, and played this dlc a day before it was released.

Did you see the multitude of OTHER LIs in the trailer?

And only a tiny little miscule 2 second blip of Kolyat?

And Jacob was in the final photo at the end, but there are no drell?

So it's mental alchemic extrapolation than? Turning a two second clip into evidence for absolutly nothing in the dlc?

The speculative space magic is strong in this place, along with psychic future predicting energy, apparently.

Why do you even care?
We have a right to our opinion just like you have a right to yours.

[RShara]

Don't feed the trolls.

[dreman9999]

Belyn wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...
I'm not taking delight in any one's pain. I'm just being realistic. The most content they can do for Thane is give him a better good bye, a way for his family and friend to say good bye.

Why is a furneral a bad thing?

Because the trailer says to have one last adventure and reunite with old friends. 

Last time I looked, a funeral isn't an adventure and it's certainly not reuniting. It's an ending. 

Bioware made the choice they did. It was there's to make. I disagree with that choice. Simple as that. You don't have to accept my opinion and I don't have to change it. 

Thane is died. So it's impossible to have any story to interact with him directly.A furneral and a goodbye is the most they can do.

[d4eaming]

Darth Brotarian wrote...

d4eaming wrote...

Darth Brotarian wrote...

So I'm assuming all of you have played the dlc and seen the thane related content in the dlc, in context and fully, to claim that this dlc didn't offer you anything right?

Or are you people using space magic to justify seeing what all other people have not, and played this dlc a day before it was released.

Did you see the multitude of OTHER LIs in the trailer?

And only a tiny little miscule 2 second blip of Kolyat?

And Jacob was in the final photo at the end, but there are no drell?

So it's mental alchemic extrapolation than? Turning a two second clip into evidence for absolutly nothing in the dlc?

The speculative space magic is strong in this place, along with psychic future predicting energy, apparently.

Inductive reasoning based on the available data.

[Bill Casey]

Kolyat in the Citadel trailer...

[dreman9999]

Belyn wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...
He is died. What more Thane content then that can they do outside of a funeral? Zombie Thane...Weekend at Thane's?

This comes off in a mocking tone. I think there's enough mocking and taking delight at another's expense. Please stop. It's not helping. 

Me being sarcastic is not me having delight at another expence. I'm just being realistic here. If you know the dlc is post coup, mean Thane is no longer in the world, what else do you expect them to do out side a furneral?

[JECW]

dreman9999 wrote...

Belyn wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...
He is died. What more Thane content then that can they do outside of a funeral? Zombie Thane...Weekend at Thane's?

This comes off in a mocking tone. I think there's enough mocking and taking delight at another's expense. Please stop. It's not helping. 

Me being sarcastic is not me having delight at another expence. I'm just being realistic here. If you know the dlc is post coup, mean Thane is no longer in the world, what else do you expect them to do out side a furneral?

So your saying we don't have the right to be upset, and a lot of us didn't want a funeral.

[Hainkpe]

dreman9999 wrote...
Thane is died. So it's impossible to have any story to interact with him directly.A furneral and a goodbye is the most they can do.

It was Bioware's decision. They set the boundaries and the timeline. They set the story. Personally, I would have them do nothing then to set a funeral during an adventure. That would be insulting and as a fan of Thane, I've been insulted enough. Bioware just needs to let him go and let him be dead. They dropped the ball to begin with. 

[Hainkpe]

dreman9999 wrote...

Me being sarcastic is not me having delight at another expence. I'm just being realistic here. If you know the dlc is post coup, mean Thane is no longer in the world, what else do you expect them to do out side a furneral?

Your sarcasm is at another's emotional and psychological expense. You are insulting and hurting people. Please stop. You've brought enough adding insult to injury. 

[dreman9999]

JECW wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

Belyn wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...
He is died. What more Thane content then that can they do outside of a funeral? Zombie Thane...Weekend at Thane's?

This comes off in a mocking tone. I think there's enough mocking and taking delight at another's expense. Please stop. It's not helping. 

Me being sarcastic is not me having delight at another expence. I'm just being realistic here. If you know the dlc is post coup, mean Thane is no longer in the world, what else do you expect them to do out side a furneral?

So your saying we don't have the right to be upset, and a lot of us didn't want a funeral.

But there is nothing more that can be done.
How else do you have more interaction with someone died out side of remebering them?

[dreman9999]

Belyn wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

Me being sarcastic is not me having delight at another expence. I'm just being realistic here. If you know the dlc is post coup, mean Thane is no longer in the world, what else do you expect them to do out side a furneral?

Your sarcasm is at another's emotional and psychological expense. You are insulting and hurting people. Please stop. You've brought enough adding insult to injury. 

No I'm not. I'm just saying what more can they do with someone who died.

[Unschuld]

JECW wrote...
So your saying we don't have the right to be upset, and a lot of us didn't want a funeral.

A lot of us didn't want that ending either. Still got it. Won't change.


Even though I like Thane as a character and think that him dying is an intrinsic part of his character, it still sucks that that his more "passionate" fans couldn't have their due. At least it seems like he gets a send off instead of just dying in a hospital and everyone forgetting about him afterward, though I guess that isn't very much consolation.

[dreman9999]

Belyn wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...
Thane is died. So it's impossible to have any story to interact with him directly.A furneral and a goodbye is the most they can do.

It was Bioware's decision. They set the boundaries and the timeline. They set the story. Personally, I would have them do nothing then to set a funeral during an adventure. That would be insulting and as a fan of Thane, I've been insulted enough. Bioware just needs to let him go and let him be dead. They dropped the ball to begin with. 

And this dlc it one made for ALL the fan base. It had to acomidate everyones wants relisticly. That could not be done pre-coup based on the dlc's story.

[dreman9999]

Unschuld wrote...

JECW wrote...
So your saying we don't have the right to be upset, and a lot of us didn't want a funeral.

A lot of us didn't want that ending either. Still got it. Won't change.


Even though I like Thane as a character and think that him dying is an intrinsic part of his character, it still sucks that that his more "passionate" fans couldn't have their due. At least it seems like he gets a send off instead of just dying in a hospital and everyone forgetting about him afterward, though I guess that isn't very much consolation.

It's the most they can do.

[JECW]

Unschuld wrote...

JECW wrote...
So your saying we don't have the right to be upset, and a lot of us didn't want a funeral.

A lot of us didn't want that ending either. Still got it. Won't change.


Even though I like Thane as a character and think that him dying is an intrinsic part of his character, it still sucks that that his more "passionate" fans couldn't have their due. At least it seems like he gets a send off instead of just dying in a hospital and everyone forgetting about him afterward, though I guess that isn't very much consolation.

That already happened in the game.

[Hainkpe]

dreman9999 wrote...
No I'm not. I'm just saying what more can they do with someone who died.

I have asked you to stop with this line of discussion twice. I have been kind. You have not stopped as I have asked. I am reporting you. 

Modifié par Belyn, 04 mars 2013 - 09:11 .