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[Julia_xo]

What is there to look forward to in this DLC for a Thanemancer? It's only available post-coup which means Thane won't be alive.Some vague mention about him from other characters is not the same as content with the character we care about. This is the last DLC and it seems his character will still be an afterthought, like he was in the vanilla game. This is beyond disappointing.

[dreman9999]

JECW wrote...

Unschuld wrote...

JECW wrote...
So your saying we don't have the right to be upset, and a lot of us didn't want a funeral.

A lot of us didn't want that ending either. Still got it. Won't change.


Even though I like Thane as a character and think that him dying is an intrinsic part of his character, it still sucks that that his more "passionate" fans couldn't have their due. At least it seems like he gets a send off instead of just dying in a hospital and everyone forgetting about him afterward, though I guess that isn't very much consolation.

That already happened in the game.

Not afurneral or the people who knew him giving him a send off. No one talks about Thane after he died....I hated that.

[dreman9999]

Belyn wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...
No I'm not. I'm just saying what more can they do with someone who died.

I have asked you to stop with this line of discussion twice. I have been kind. You have not stopped as I have asked. I am reporting you. 

Reported for what?
All I asked was What else more can they do for a character that died?

[BeanieBat]

dreman9999 wrote...
]Me being sarcastic is not me having delight at another expence. I'm just being realistic here. If you know the dlc is post coup, mean Thane is no longer in the world, what else do you expect them to do out side a furneral?

While you are probably correct in assuming that post coup means that Thane is dead (as I believe that is how BioWare see it and that is what will be the case for this DLC)... is it not technically after the coup that Thane dies? I think it would have been fair for people to have assumed there might be a chance to have more interaction with him, even if it was just more content added to his death scene - maybe something more personal for the people who had romanced him.

[dreman9999]

Julia_xo wrote...

What is there to look forward to in this DLC for a Thanemancer? It's only available post-coup which means Thane won't be alive.Some vague mention about him from other characters is not the same as content with the character we care about. This is the last DLC and it seems his character will still be an afterthought, like he was in the vanilla game. This is beyond disappointing.

A memorial for him is beyond disappointing?

[dreman9999]

BeanieBat wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...
]Me being sarcastic is not me having delight at another expence. I'm just being realistic here. If you know the dlc is post coup, mean Thane is no longer in the world, what else do you expect them to do out side a furneral?

While you are probably correct in assuming that post coup means that Thane is dead (as I believe that is how BioWare see it and that is what will be the case for this DLC)... is it not technically after the coup that Thane dies? I think it would have been fair for people to have assumed there might be a chance to have more interaction with him, even if it was just more content added to his death scene - maybe something more personal for the people who had romanced him.

The game make it clear Thane dies no matter what post-coup..Even if he is not part of the coup mission.
What is more personal then a memorial scene with you saying good bye?

[Saberchic]

Julia_xo wrote...

What is there to look forward to in this DLC for a Thanemancer? It's only available post-coup which means Thane won't be alive.Some vague mention about him from other characters is not the same as content with the character we care about. This is the last DLC and it seems his character will still be an afterthought, like he was in the vanilla game. This is beyond disappointing.

Kolyat shows up. Hopefully there will be some really good content there.

I think the fact that they included him is a sign that they did not just toss Thane aside or don't care. I think they are trying to do right by Thanemancers. Otherwise, why bother to include him at all.

[RShara]

Interaction with Kolyat+Coffin =|= interaction with Thane

[Liyros]

What about those people like my bro that didn't bother visiting Thane in the hospital? Kirrahe did his thang instead. Idk...

[d4eaming]

dreman9999 wrote...

Belyn wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...
No I'm not. I'm just saying what more can they do with someone who died.

I have asked you to stop with this line of discussion twice. I have been kind. You have not stopped as I have asked. I am reporting you. 

Reported for what?
All I asked was What else more can they do for a character that died?

Probably for deliberately antagonizing people.

[Hainkpe]

dreman9999 wrote...

Belyn wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...
No I'm not. I'm just saying what more can they do with someone who died.

I have asked you to stop with this line of discussion twice. I have been kind. You have not stopped as I have asked. I am reporting you. 

Reported for what?
All I asked was What else more can they do for a character that died?

As I explained to the moderator, your point was answered. Repeatedly. You refuse to let it go. You are not aiding in the discussion or allowing it to progress. 

[RShara]

More than once

[CronoDragoon]

I can only say that if Tali was a character that always died, I would very much enjoy a scene where Rahn pulled Shepard aside and told him how much Tali loved him, trusted him, how he'd changed her personality and life, etc etc etc.

[BeanieBat]

dreman9999 wrote...

BeanieBat wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...
]Me being sarcastic is not me having delight at another expence. I'm just being realistic here. If you know the dlc is post coup, mean Thane is no longer in the world, what else do you expect them to do out side a furneral?

While you are probably correct in assuming that post coup means that Thane is dead (as I believe that is how BioWare see it and that is what will be the case for this DLC)... is it not technically after the coup that Thane dies? I think it would have been fair for people to have assumed there might be a chance to have more interaction with him, even if it was just more content added to his death scene - maybe something more personal for the people who had romanced him.

The game make it clear Thane dies no matter what post-coup..Even if he is not part of the coup mission.
What is more personal then a memorial scene with you saying good bye?

I never mentioned anything about him not dying... My point was, as you just said, Thane dies post-coup, so it wasn't unreasonable for people to think there might have been some content with Thane himself before he dies.

And I doubt that a memorial scene would be restricted to romanced Sheps,
as plenty of people will have played Shep's to whom Thane was a good
friend and they would presumably want to go to his memorial too. It was mentioned that there would be something for those who had romanced him and I don't think the memorial service or whatever (I haven't watched the trailer) will be it.

[dreman9999]

RShara wrote...

Interaction with Kolyat+Coffin =|= interaction with Thane

Thane+Died=only furneal possible.

[LoonySpectre]

Still, I think this wasn't funeral, this was unveiling of a Thane statue.

[dreman9999]

BeanieBat wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

BeanieBat wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...
]Me being sarcastic is not me having delight at another expence. I'm just being realistic here. If you know the dlc is post coup, mean Thane is no longer in the world, what else do you expect them to do out side a furneral?

While you are probably correct in assuming that post coup means that Thane is dead (as I believe that is how BioWare see it and that is what will be the case for this DLC)... is it not technically after the coup that Thane dies? I think it would have been fair for people to have assumed there might be a chance to have more interaction with him, even if it was just more content added to his death scene - maybe something more personal for the people who had romanced him.

The game make it clear Thane dies no matter what post-coup..Even if he is not part of the coup mission.
What is more personal then a memorial scene with you saying good bye?

I never mentioned anything about him not dying... My point was, as you just said, Thane dies post-coup, so it wasn't unreasonable for people to think there might have been some content with Thane himself before he dies.

And I doubt that a memorial scene would be restricted to romanced Sheps,
as plenty of people will have played Shep's to whom Thane was a good
friend and they would presumably want to go to his memorial too. It was mentioned that there would be something for those who had romanced him and I don't think the memorial service or whatever (I haven't watched the trailer) will be it.

1. I'm betting people who romaced Thane woulf get more dialogue.
2.The dlc is post -coup.

[Emphyr]

Thane ppl you have my support and i completly understand your point

Dont feed the trolls that suddenly come in this tread just trying  to upset you
They are always trolling in almost every tread on the BSN that is about emotions.

They will never get it and arguing ore trying to have a normal discussion with them is a waste of your time. . ( look at there posting history ).

You all take care.
Regards from The Netherlands (Europe)

Modifié par Emphyr, 04 mars 2013 - 09:32 .

[dreman9999]

Belyn wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

Belyn wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...
No I'm not. I'm just saying what more can they do with someone who died.

I have asked you to stop with this line of discussion twice. I have been kind. You have not stopped as I have asked. I am reporting you. 

Reported for what?
All I asked was What else more can they do for a character that died?

As I explained to the moderator, your point was answered. Repeatedly. You refuse to let it go. You are not aiding in the discussion or allowing it to progress. 

Reported for what?
All I asked was What else more can they do for a character that died?

[dreman9999]

Emphyr wrote...

Thane ppl you have my support and i completly understand your point

Dont feed the tolls thaat suddenly come in this tread just to upset you
They are always trolling in almost every tread on the BSN that is about emotions.

They will never get it and arguing ore trying to have a normal discussion with them is a waste of your time. . ( look at there posting history ).

You all take care.
Regards from The Netherlands (Europe)

How is a memorial not caring?

[BeanieBat]

Saberchic wrote...

Julia_xo wrote...

What is there to look forward to in this DLC for a Thanemancer? It's only available post-coup which means Thane won't be alive.Some vague mention about him from other characters is not the same as content with the character we care about. This is the last DLC and it seems his character will still be an afterthought, like he was in the vanilla game. This is beyond disappointing.

Kolyat shows up. Hopefully there will be some really good content there.

I think the fact that they included him is a sign that they did not just toss Thane aside or don't care. I think they are trying to do right by Thanemancers. Otherwise, why bother to include him at all.

Having Kolyat there to possibly share stories with Shep/talk about Thane/whatever he is there for would be a nice gesture to acknowledge Thane's death in the game. But it only, potentially, sorts out the problem where Thane wasn't mentioned after his death... it doesn't solve anything that happened before, which is the problem for me. If I want to play the game again, having romanced Thane, I'll still have to tell him that I'm not at the hospital to visit him, but instead I am apparently there to see Kaidan. I'll also have to listen to him tell me that his disease is suddenly completely different to what he described in ME2. So while the DLC might fix post-coup, the shocking writing will still be there pre-coup.

[BeanieBat]

dreman9999 wrote...
1. I'm betting people who romaced Thane woulf get more dialogue.
2.The dlc is post -coup.

I am perfectly aware that the DLC is post-coup. Thane dies post-coup too. Not during the coup, but post-coup.

[d4eaming]

dreman9999 wrote...

Belyn wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

Belyn wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...
No I'm not. I'm just saying what more can they do with someone who died.

I have asked you to stop with this line of discussion twice. I have been kind. You have not stopped as I have asked. I am reporting you. 

Reported for what?
All I asked was What else more can they do for a character that died?

As I explained to the moderator, your point was answered. Repeatedly. You refuse to let it go. You are not aiding in the discussion or allowing it to progress. 

Reported for what?
All I asked was What else more can they do for a character that died?

So basically, you are deliberately antagonizing people and deliberately missing the point so you can continue to do so.

[radishson]

CronoDragoon wrote...

I can only say that if Tali was a character that always died, I would very much enjoy a scene where Rahn pulled Shepard aside and told him how much Tali loved him, trusted him, how he'd changed her personality and life, etc etc etc.

While I ultimately agree, I think the problem is that Thanemancers dislike the ENTIRE thane romance in ME3.  Its not so much about the death as it is about the terrible personality change, the fight scene, the lack of content, the totally apathetic death scene, etc.  "You really changed my fathers life" doesn't mean much when the material in ME3 specifically shows Thane went back to his old self.  The way the romance ended just didn't give a lot of room for meaningful development with Kolyat because they retconned all the development to begin with.

But willl just have to wait and see.