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What? Did you see the date? This is after ME2's release.

And the game he clearlystated he upset that he was dieing.
Did the change what he was upset about in the game itself?

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@dreman, get some reading comprehension and critical thinking lessons at your local community collage, then come back and re-read everything so you can gain a full understanding of what is being said to you, because at this point, your only purpose here is to troll and antagonize/inflame, or you seriously do not understand the simple English presented to you here.

What did I say wrong. All I said is that Emphysema  can cause hemoglobin.

What Thane has is simular to Emphysema.

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Guys, stop. Dreman, no one cares anymore. Everyone else, you should know by now hes either a bad troll or genuinely unable to understand what has been restated countless times.

Can we please get back to discussing the actual trailer instead of rehashing old arguments ad nauseam?

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Don't get yourselves banned for reacting to trolls.

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dreman9999 wrote...

d4eaming wrote...

@dreman, get some reading comprehension and critical thinking lessons at your local community collage, then come back and re-read everything so you can gain a full understanding of what is being said to you, because at this point, your only purpose here is to troll and antagonize/inflame, or you seriously do not understand the simple English presented to you here.

What did I say wrong. All I said is that Emphysema  can cause hemoglobin.

What Thane has is simular to Emphysema.


You have repeatedly completely ignored everything anyone has said to you, copy/pasting the same idiotic question over and over. It has been answered NUMEROUS times, with probably dozens of examples of what BW could have done differently to correct the low quality LI interaction Thane has in ME3. You have been provided proof that Thane's disease changed from a bacterial infection to a blood disease. You have been provided proof that Thane's own writer has had to correct information regarding him. You have been provided proof that a romanced Thane in ME2 has a personality diametrically opposed to the one presented in ME3.

You have been provided synopses, screen shots, quotes, and so forth to answer ever inane little question you think is so clever, and now all you are doing is resorting to playing copypasta with your fingers in your ears just so you can get a rise out of the people attempting to have a dialogue with you.

You very clearly do not giving a fark about what Thane romancers have to say, you don't care about the lacking content, and you don't care to have an actual conversation with the exchange of ideas, considering you utterly and completely dismiss everything anyone offers up to you.

You're a troll, and I am inclined to believe the suggestion that you are trying to get the thread locked, antagonizing people in the hopes of starting a flame war, simply because you personally don't have a problem with the character and how he has been presented and handled.

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If the DLC isn't enough (likely outcome), you could try modding the game.

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If the DLC isn't enough (likely outcome), you could try modding the game.


Unfortunately, if you don't play on a PC, that isn't possible <_<

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radishson wrote...

Guys, stop. Dreman, no one cares anymore. Everyone else, you should know by now hes either a bad troll or genuinely unable to understand what has been restated countless times.

Can we please get back to discussing the actual trailer instead of rehashing old arguments ad nauseam?

I understand that peoples issue with Thane is that feel that they feel that Thane being ok to live peacefully till he dies is a contrast to him being afraid of dieing in his romance in ME2.  But that is just part of the stages of depression. Remeber he was letting himslef get killed in ME2 when you meet him.

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HJF4 wrote...

If the DLC isn't enough (likely outcome), you could try modding the game.


We would, but getting Keythe's wonderful voice and delivery into the mod would be problematic :(

And anyway, we shouldn't need to mod the game to get what everyone else got by default :(

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d4eaming wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

d4eaming wrote...

@dreman, get some reading comprehension and critical thinking lessons at your local community collage, then come back and re-read everything so you can gain a full understanding of what is being said to you, because at this point, your only purpose here is to troll and antagonize/inflame, or you seriously do not understand the simple English presented to you here.

What did I say wrong. All I said is that Emphysema  can cause hemoglobin.

What Thane has is simular to Emphysema.


You have repeatedly completely ignored everything anyone has said to you, copy/pasting the same idiotic question over and over. It has been answered NUMEROUS times, with probably dozens of examples of what BW could have done differently to correct the low quality LI interaction Thane has in ME3. You have been provided proof that Thane's disease changed from a bacterial infection to a blood disease. You have been provided proof that Thane's own writer has had to correct information regarding him. You have been provided proof that a romanced Thane in ME2 has a personality diametrically opposed to the one presented in ME3.

You have been provided synopses, screen shots, quotes, and so forth to answer ever inane little question you think is so clever, and now all you are doing is resorting to playing copypasta with your fingers in your ears just so you can get a rise out of the people attempting to have a dialogue with you.

You very clearly do not giving a fark about what Thane romancers have to say, you don't care about the lacking content, and you don't care to have an actual conversation with the exchange of ideas, considering you utterly and completely dismiss everything anyone offers up to you.

You're a troll, and I am inclined to believe the suggestion that you are trying to get the thread locked, antagonizing people in the hopes of starting a flame war, simply because you personally don't have a problem with the character and how he has been presented and handled.

That's not proof that his illness became a blood illness. Lung illness can effect the blood. It's inherit because the respiratory system and circulatory system of co-dependent.

The lung illness Emphysema  can cause the blood illness hemoglobin. That is not uncommon for lung illnesses.

And I do care about his romance. It's just that I understand they can do nothing more for it.

And the pic doesn't contradict Thanes character in ME3. It's just the stages of depression.

Modifié par dreman9999, 04 mars 2013 - 10:31 .


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HJF4 wrote...

If the DLC isn't enough (likely outcome), you could try modding the game.


I wish it was that easy.

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RShara wrote...

HJF4 wrote...

If the DLC isn't enough (likely outcome), you could try modding the game.


We would, but getting Keythe's wonderful voice and delivery into the mod would be problematic :(

And anyway, we shouldn't need to mod the game to get what everyone else got by default :(

At this point, I would be satisfied with just letters from Thane, who is recovering from a therapy on Kahje. It would also be good to delete his name from memorial wall. Too bad I don't have such skills. :(

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Does emphysema have metastases in other organs? Thane's disease does.

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RShara wrote...

HJF4 wrote...

If the DLC isn't enough (likely outcome), you could try modding the game.


We would, but getting Keythe's wonderful voice and delivery into the mod would be problematic :(

As in new lines? Yea. You'd have to get in touch with the voice actor, and then edit to add the sound effect.
But using existing lines and maybe splicing them shouldn't too difficult.

At this point, I would be satisfied with just letters from Thane,
who is recovering from a therapy on Kahje. It would also be good to
delete his name from memorial wall. Too bad I don't have such skills. :(

That's feasible. I'm not a writer so I couldn't write the actual letter well, but I could do everything else.

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Hmm I might be able to do the letter. I've been complimented on my Thane voice before.

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Does emphysema have metastases in other organs? Thane's disease does.

Emphysema is causeby what is breathed...Just like Thanes illness. Thane's Illness  spreads is just the slow shutting down of other body systems just like  Emphysema.

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dreman9999 wrote...

LoonySpectre wrote...

Does emphysema have metastases in other organs? Thane's disease does.

Emphysema is causeby what is breathed...Just like Thanes illness. Thane's Illness  spreads is just the slow shutting down of other body systems just like  Emphysema.


Via the wiki

According to Patrick Weekes, the nature of Kepral's Syndrome is largely based on the real-life disease ofcystic fibrosis.[2]

Via Wikipedia

The name cystic fibrosis refers to the characteristic scarring (fibrosis) and cyst formation within the pancreas, first recognized in the 1930s.[2] Difficulty breathing is the most serious symptom and results from frequent lung infections that are treated with antibiotics and other medications. Other symptoms, including sinus infections, poor growth, and infertility affect other parts of the body.

[...]

Ultimately, lung transplantation is often necessary as CF worsens.

edited to add a little more

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meekzu wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

LoonySpectre wrote...

Does emphysema have metastases in other organs? Thane's disease does.

Emphysema is causeby what is breathed...Just like Thanes illness. Thane's Illness  spreads is just the slow shutting down of other body systems just like  Emphysema.


Via the wiki

According to Patrick Weekes, the nature of Kepral's Syndrome is largely based on the real-life disease ofcystic fibrosis.[2]

Via Wikipedia

The name cystic fibrosis refers to the characteristic scarring (fibrosis) and cyst formation within the pancreas, first recognized in the 1930s.[2] Difficulty breathing is the most serious symptom and results from frequent lung infections that are treated with antibiotics and other medications. Other symptoms, including sinus infections, poor growth, and infertility affect other parts of the body.

[...]

Ultimately, lung transplantation is often necessary as CF worsens.

edited to add a little more

1. That diease is a mutation.
2. That still can cause hemoglobin.
3. Lung tansfer is alsothe only ay to cure Emphysema.
4....http://www.hopkinsch...g-diseases.aspx

Modifié par dreman9999, 04 mars 2013 - 11:04 .


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HJF4 wrote...

RShara wrote...

HJF4 wrote...

If the DLC isn't enough (likely outcome), you could try modding the game.


We would, but getting Keythe's wonderful voice and delivery into the mod would be problematic :(

As in new lines? Yea. You'd have to get in touch with the voice actor, and then edit to add the sound effect.
But using existing lines and maybe splicing them shouldn't too difficult.

At this point, I would be satisfied with just letters from Thane,
who is recovering from a therapy on Kahje. It would also be good to
delete his name from memorial wall. Too bad I don't have such skills. :(

That's feasible. I'm not a writer so I couldn't write the actual letter well, but I could do everything else.


Well, there's subtitles... boring maybe but better than nothing.

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dreman9999 wrote...

meekzu wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

LoonySpectre wrote...

Does emphysema have metastases in other organs? Thane's disease does.

Emphysema is causeby what is breathed...Just like Thanes illness. Thane's Illness  spreads is just the slow shutting down of other body systems just like  Emphysema.


Via the wiki

According to Patrick Weekes, the nature of Kepral's Syndrome is largely based on the real-life disease ofcystic fibrosis.[2]

Via Wikipedia

The name cystic fibrosis refers to the characteristic scarring (fibrosis) and cyst formation within the pancreas, first recognized in the 1930s.[2] Difficulty breathing is the most serious symptom and results from frequent lung infections that are treated with antibiotics and other medications. Other symptoms, including sinus infections, poor growth, and infertility affect other parts of the body.

[...]

Ultimately, lung transplantation is often necessary as CF worsens.

edited to add a little more

1. That diease is a mutation.
2. That still can cause hemoglobin.


But it's not emphysema.

And going by what a WRITER said, it's Kepral's is more closely related to this condition. 

It can "cause" hemoglobin? Are you sure?

Hemoglobin[/b] (pron.: /hməˈɡlbɪn/also spelled haemoglobin[/b] and abbreviated Hb[/b] or Hgb[/b]) is the iron-containing oxygen-transport metalloprotein in the red blood cells of all vertebrates[1] (with the exception of the fish family Channichthyidae[2]) as well as the tissues of some invertebrates.


if that's the case, then Thane should be doing alright, no?

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meekzu wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

meekzu wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

LoonySpectre wrote...

Does emphysema have metastases in other organs? Thane's disease does.

Emphysema is causeby what is breathed...Just like Thanes illness. Thane's Illness  spreads is just the slow shutting down of other body systems just like  Emphysema.


Via the wiki

According to Patrick Weekes, the nature of Kepral's Syndrome is largely based on the real-life disease ofcystic fibrosis.[2]

Via Wikipedia

The name cystic fibrosis refers to the characteristic scarring (fibrosis) and cyst formation within the pancreas, first recognized in the 1930s.[2] Difficulty breathing is the most serious symptom and results from frequent lung infections that are treated with antibiotics and other medications. Other symptoms, including sinus infections, poor growth, and infertility affect other parts of the body.

[...]

Ultimately, lung transplantation is often necessary as CF worsens.

edited to add a little more

1. That diease is a mutation.
2. That still can cause hemoglobin.


But it's not emphysema.

And going by what a WRITER said, it's Kepral's is more closely related to this condition. 

It can "cause" hemoglobin? Are you sure?

Hemoglobin[/b] (pron.: /hməˈɡlbɪn/also spelled haemoglobin[/b] and abbreviated Hb[/b] or Hgb[/b]) is the iron-containing oxygen-transport metalloprotein in the red blood cells of all vertebrates[1] (with the exception of the fish family Channichthyidae[2]) as well as the tissues of some invertebrates.


if that's the case, then Thane should be doing alright, no?

1. You not getting what I am saying. It's not 100% like cystic fibrosis. That illness is a mutation from birth. Thane has an illness casued by the enviroment he lived in. It's similar but it's not 100% the same. Also, both cystic fibrosis and emphysema are simmular. How Thane got the illness is simular to emphysema.

2. You also not under standing what I mean by Hemoglobin. In lung illness the hemoglobin increses drastical to counter the fact that the lungs can't take as much oxygne the body need. 
The increase of hemoglobin in a peoples body isa sign of illness and they are getting worse. More hemoglibin means you lung are lossing it's effectiveness, that means less oxgen.
High hemoglobin mean thane is getting worse.

3. Lung tansfer is alsothe only ay to cure Emphysema.
4....http://www.hopkinsch...g-diseases.aspx

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Then you should try to speak clearer. i responded to what you had written there, not what you maybe, sorta meant. 
If you'd do a dictionary search for hemaglobin, what I posted is what you get. And this is all moot anyway as most people are more inclined to believe the words from someone who worked on the game as opposed to someone trying to provoke reactions from no where. Weekes said it's based on CF, not that it is n exact copy of the illness which seems to be what you're thinking "based" means, which is pretty unfortunate.

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meekzu wrote...

Then you should try to speak clearer. If you'd do a dictionary search for hemaglobin, what I posted is what you get. And this is all moot anyway as most people are more inclined to believe the words from someone who worked on the game as opposed to someone trying to provoke reactions from no where. Weekes said it's based on CF, not that it is n exact copy of the illness which seems to be what you're thinking "based" means, which is pretty unfortunate.

And CF is just like Emphysema.

http://www.hopkinsch...g-diseases.aspx

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From the Book "Cystic Fibrosis: A Guide for Patient and Family" By David M. Orenstein

under SPECIAL DEFICIENCIES IN CYSTIC FIBROSIS

Iron deficiency

"Iron is concentrated in the blood, but some is present in every living cell of the body. Iron's main function is to carry oxygen and carbon dioxide from one body tissue to another via the blood. Most iron is present in the hemoglobin molecule of the red blood cell. Any more than very mild iron deficiency will lead to low hemoglobin levels and anemia"



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Your sig says it all. I already dropped the mic on my last post