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JECW

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Laser-Eyes wrote...

Wait.... I haven't played the DLC, but I saw the video of the funeral and Shepard leaving and seeing Thane... does Kolyat stay on the Citadel still o.O ?


He probably does. We really never learn what happened to him.

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Maybe, but it's still lame as hell. If that was supposed to be something nice... people tend to forget that Thane is with Irikah after his death, if there is any afterlife. For those who do not believe in that...well, there is nothing, no consolation, no hope.


What. Bioware has to portrait different views of beliefs now, too?



No, they just shouldn't have  killed my LI. I get attached sometimes, and it's not nice. If they thought that some cheesy lines about meeting in another life would be enough to make it less painful, they were just wrong. It's not fun, it's not pleasant and it's not fair.

As for Kolyat.. too bad that the dialogue with him doesn't change if Shep had a romance with Thane.

Modifié par Vlk3, 06 mars 2013 - 10:15 .


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Well, it seems some guys get all the fun - and Thanemancers don't.
Helplessly seeing Thane die in the Huerta Hospital was hard enough for me - I don't need to see his furneral ... cannot effort enough kleenex to got through this. And I don't need a Thane ghost telling my Shep that he will wait for her across the sea when he is already reunited with his first wife (or is polygyny a part of the Drell culture?).
I guess if I would play the DLC and see this stuff my Shep would rush voluntarily into KL's sword to end her life.

I really hoped for a kind of flashback, a vivid memory of Shepard remembering her and Thane in a very private Moment, and seeing her smile and feel lucky for a short while. But all I will get is more tears.

Modifié par Eliza, 06 mars 2013 - 10:31 .


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@radishson - I did hear something about EA putting pressure on BioWare to get it done. I felt that most of the ME2 characters got shafted in ME3, Thane and Jacob were the worst. So I'd think that was maybe down to time constraints, but I would have thought they'd at least try to keep the ME2 characters equal. Ah well, no point in pondering about that now anyway - doubt we'll ever know for sure...

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God these clips are like bad fanfiction

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BeanieBat wrote...

@radishson - I did hear something about EA putting pressure on BioWare to get it done. I felt that most of the ME2 characters got shafted in ME3, Thane and Jacob were the worst. So I'd think that was maybe down to time constraints, but I would have thought they'd at least try to keep the ME2 characters equal. Ah well, no point in pondering about that now anyway - doubt we'll ever know for sure...


Well, there's a reason only Femshep romances were shafted while Maleshep continued to get them added.  Its pretty obvious that the industry views female content as entirely disposable, if its even included at all.  A lot of other parts seemed rush too, like several big cutscenes or the heavy use of autodialogue.  Wonder what ME3 would've been like if they had as little as an extra 6 months.

RSara - Isn't the whole thing sort of like bad fanfic, though? :wizard:  Apparently single Sheps wake up in bed with Javik. lol.

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Does anyone have a video of the Thane Ghost that appears next to Shepard at the end of the DLC?

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FlyinElk212 wrote...

Does anyone have a video of the Thane Ghost that appears next to Shepard at the end of the DLC?


Here.

Modifié par Xeyska, 07 mars 2013 - 02:29 .


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Ugh.. There is no amount of sugar you can throw on a "bittersweet" story after you wrote it so bitter it made the reader barf bioware.

Ya, thanks for the effort, is better than the disaster that it was before. But there really isn't a way to fix Thane romance without letting him live till the end of the game. And I imagine if that happened the other fans would be up in arms about spending resources on a "temporary character" instead of fixing the ending or giving them more multiplayer weapons -.-

Bioware thanks for the effort. This DLC was all right. And thanks for ME1 and ME2.

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I say YAGH IT!

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Vlk3 wrote...
Maybe, but it's still lame as hell. If that was supposed to be something nice... people tend to forget that Thane is with Irikah after his death, if there is any afterlife. For those who do not believe in that...well, there is nothing, no consolation, no hope.


Yeah, that tends to be one of the consequences of not believing in an afterlife. Although, I have trouble figuring out why any Shepard who didn't believe in an afterlife of some kind would end up with a man like Thane, whose spiritual beliefs in that regard are so important to him. Not saying it's immpossible, I'm just saying I don't get it.

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radishson wrote...
Well, there's a reason only Femshep romances were shafted while Maleshep continued to get them added.  Its pretty obvious that the industry views female content as entirely disposable, if its even included at all.  A lot of other parts seemed rush too, like several big cutscenes or the heavy use of autodialogue.  Wonder what ME3 would've been like if they had as little as an extra 6 months.


Yep, I completely agree with all you said. It was just such a let down after ME2 though, I thought BioWare were better than that. 

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radishson wrote...
Well, there's a reason only Femshep romances were shafted while Maleshep continued to get them added.  Its pretty obvious that the industry views female content as entirely disposable, if its even included at all.  A lot of other parts seemed rush too, like several big cutscenes or the heavy use of autodialogue.  Wonder what ME3 would've been like if they had as little as an extra 6 months.


I sincerely doubt that had anything to do with it. ME2 as a whole is relatively forgotten due to numerous variables and twisting plotlines. BioWare chose to cut ties and distance themselves from that cast with convenient "excuses." Thane already had a perfectly logical one - death wrapped in a neat little package. They simply ran with it.

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RShara wrote...

God these clips are like bad fanfiction



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Those clips open yet another plothole. How come all the videos, emails and paper letters sent from Thane to Shepard through open channels avoided the Shadow Broker's attention? The yahg Shadow Broker managed to obtain Thane's unsent love letter from Normandy's computer network, and now Liara can't obtain a copy of something easily available to present it to Shepard?

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Or she got it and hid it because she was jealous and wanted to jump into Shepard's pants.

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Bourne Endeavor wrote...

radishson wrote...
Well, there's a reason only Femshep romances were shafted while Maleshep continued to get them added.  Its pretty obvious that the industry views female content as entirely disposable, if its even included at all.  A lot of other parts seemed rush too, like several big cutscenes or the heavy use of autodialogue.  Wonder what ME3 would've been like if they had as little as an extra 6 months.


I sincerely doubt that had anything to do with it. ME2 as a whole is relatively forgotten due to numerous variables and twisting plotlines. BioWare chose to cut ties and distance themselves from that cast with convenient "excuses." Thane already had a perfectly logical one - death wrapped in a neat little package. They simply ran with it.


Ya, that seems to be the gyst of it

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Im still very sad. This /is/ better. But still.. crap.

I just have this fantasies; imagine if Thane lived, and became a squad member! My life would be better. Just now I feel like old wounds is torned open.

I have never felt so strongly for a fictional character, And he is green and lizardlike. Im creepy, seriously.

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Or she got it and hid it because she was jealous and wanted to jump into Shepard's pants.

This might have been the case if Shepard romanced her in ME1 and then went to Thane in ME2. The very first thing Liara asks in the very first proper conversation on the Normandy is "I know you and Thane were together, but what about us?"
But if Shepard didn't romance her... this is too low.

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grey_wind wrote...

Thane was an assassin - a criminal- who died a hero.

*HEAD-DESK*


It is an accurate statement.

Thane started off in the employ of the Hanar state, but eventually turned freelancer and killed for profit. That makes him a criminal. The revenge killing of Thane's wife was in part motivated by one of these freelance hits on a Batarian mercenary. The fact that Thane became an assassin for hire (otherwise known as a criminal), an act that indirectly caused his wife's death, is part of the reason why he was seeking atonement.

I honestly can't believe some Thane fans are complaining about that line. The people who profess to be the biggest fans of the character, are at least in some cases, not very knowledgeable about that character's backstory.

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Han Shot First wrote...

grey_wind wrote...

Thane was an assassin - a criminal- who died a hero.

*HEAD-DESK*


It is an accurate statement. Thane started off in the employ of the Hanar state, but eventually turned freelancer and killed for profit. That makes him a criminal and it was part of the reason why Thane was seeking atonement.

I honestly can't believe some Thane fans are complaining about that line. The people who profess to be the biggest fans of the character, are at least in some cases, not very knowledgeable about that character's backstory.


I can't believe you had nothing better to do then to come in here and say that.

Some of us feel it wasn't appropriate for Shepard to say something like that at a memorial service. How many memorial services have you been too that mention if the person was a criminal? It wan't even necessary to say since everyone in the galaxy knows what Thane did, but to some of us he was much more than that.

Luckly a romanced Shepard has the good sense not to say something like that.

Modifié par JECW, 07 mars 2013 - 05:43 .


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Shepard wasn't insulting Thane, he (or she) was calling attention to Thane's redemption. EDI hit on the same theme. In both cases they were honoring the deceased by talking about the most noble deed of his life.

Modifié par Han Shot First, 07 mars 2013 - 05:45 .


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Thane was too good to ever be identified, so there's no proof that he's a criminal. He was also sanctioned by his home planet in his profession, so there's nothing illegal about it anyway.

He was just a hero.

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That ghost scene is cool as hell. People are still complaining? REALLY????!!!!!

#1650
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Thane left enough traces for Brooks to compile his dossier, so at least Cerberus did know what he was.