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#76
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People can talk about the endings all they want, but constantly asking for a change and/or additional ending content is pointless. 

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The only thing I would say is, it would be better to let go and focus on being positive, to keep going with that negativity... it's just an endless cycle of what could of, why didn't you, etc - there are still great games out there and I personally don't mind the endings, even if they are garbage, but viewing it realistically though, I doubt Bioware would put resources in adding an ending again or changing what's already there.

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McFlurry598 wrote...

 People need to stop posting about the ending, it's over. Bioware gave us a FREE EC. Sure the ending was garbage before the EC. All these polls about it are pointless. Now you probably thinking, "Oh, this idiot isn't a true fan, he hasn't played all the mass effects or he hasn't played them long enough." I have in fact I preorderd every single one and have the trilogy. The fact that everyone hates the ending because Shepard dies is ridiculous, I know there is other reasons why people hate it, but, this seems to be the main reason(in my observations). I understand it is not *complete* either. Some people hate it because they didnt get what they wanted. It's biowares game and they can do whatever they want with it. I hate the ending, but I also enjoy it and like it as well but I've found closure with it and I'm definitely getting the next mass effect.


"Ugh, the main reason people hate it is because Shepard dies, hurr dur."
No the main reason why fans hate it is because it betrays the lore, the universe and the artistic integrity of Shepard's Character as well as every other character including the Reapers and Harbinger.
Not forgetting how incoherent everything is and filled with plot holes that require a user to headcanon to pretend it make sense.

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spirosz wrote...

The only thing I would say is, it would be better to let go and focus on being positive, to keep going with that negativity... it's just an endless cycle of what could of, why didn't you, etc - there are still great games out there and I personally don't mind the endings, even if they are garbage, but viewing it realistically though, I doubt Bioware would put resources in adding an ending again or changing what's already there.


I agree. Maintaining a negative attitude in the long run will rub off on more than just the forumers: also the people around them in their daily lives. Imagine your loved ones upset forever... just because of a video game's ending.

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spirosz wrote...

The only thing I would say is, it would be better to let go and focus on being positive, to keep going with that negativity... it's just an endless cycle of what could of, why didn't you, etc - there are still great games out there and I personally don't mind the endings, even if they are garbage, but viewing it realistically though, I doubt Bioware would put resources in adding an ending again or changing what's already there.

It's not just about the ending. making a pre/mid/interquel is doubling down on the failure of the ME3 ending. There is still time for them to do the right thing with ME4, by which I mean make a sequel ... we can get over the sour taste of the ending in the end, if we can move on beyond it. With a prequel the looming wall of the ending will make it a non starter.

If the authors can for a moment see beyond their egomania they will see a sequel is the right thing, they don't have to explicitly admit the salted earth approach was wrong ... but they do have to implicitly admit it by making a sequel. Or the book closes on the ME universe.

No amount of positivity will make me buy a prequel.

PS. just for reference, I am not outright against buying DA3 ... although obviously I'm not going to pre-order anything from Bioware any more, except perhaps a multiplayer game to get access to a beta.

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spirosz wrote...

The only thing I would say is, it would be better to let go and focus on being positive, to keep going with that negativity... it's just an endless cycle of what could of, why didn't you, etc - there are still great games out there and I personally don't mind the endings, even if they are garbage, but viewing it realistically though, I doubt Bioware would put resources in adding an ending again or changing what's already there.

. I can focus on other shortcomings in ME3

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Anyway Bioware can kiss my....

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Narratively, I despise the ending(s).

But ... I've learned to make peace with EC Destroy. Because in that scenario I still get to kill the reapers. Surviving is the cherry on top.

I don't "LIKE" it, but I can deal with it. And it won't prevent me from loving every second of Citadel DLC - which sounds like LotSB on steroids.

Modifié par MattFini, 22 février 2013 - 02:11 .


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PinkysPain wrote...

spirosz wrote...

The only thing I would say is, it would be better to let go and focus on being positive, to keep going with that negativity... it's just an endless cycle of what could of, why didn't you, etc - there are still great games out there and I personally don't mind the endings, even if they are garbage, but viewing it realistically though, I doubt Bioware would put resources in adding an ending again or changing what's already there.

It's not just about the ending. making a pre/mid/interquel is doubling down on the failure of the ME3 ending. There is still time for them to do the right thing with ME4, by which I mean make a sequel ... we can get over the sour taste of the ending in the end, if we can move on beyond it. With a prequel the looming wall of the ending will make it a non starter.

If the authors can for a moment see beyond their egomania they will see a sequel is the right thing, they don't have to explicitly admit the salted earth approach was wrong ... but they do have to implicitly admit it by making a sequel. Or the book closes on the ME universe.

No amount of positivity will make me buy a prequel.

PS. just for reference, I am not outright against buying DA3 ... although obviously I'm not going to pre-order anything from Bioware any more, except perhaps a multiplayer game to get access to a beta.


Serves them right for making their own video game, right?

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"Indiana , let it go."

Modifié par AndreShepard2178, 22 février 2013 - 02:34 .


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AndreShepard2178 wrote...

"Indy, let it go."


Not yet. One day, but not yet.

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What's the "ending" anyway? Decision chamber? Stargazer scene?

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I'll let the ending go when it stops existing and messing with my Mass Effect.

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As obsessive fans, we all have something that we'll never get over. Be it Starbuck, or Jar Jar, or the Dark Tower, everyone who loves science fiction carries a scar that will never heal. For some of us, the Catalyst is that scar. So no amount of pleading for us to get over it will ever be enough. It's always going to hurt.

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Nah, ending is baaaad and Bioware should feel bad.

It is by far and away the most disapointing ending to a game i have ever witnessed and deserves every single bit of the criticism.

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The endings too Mass Effect 3 will haunt future Bioware products for years too come. It's just the way things stand now. Their PR people might not like it but it will be a recurring theme whenever a new product from Bioware will be revealed. Cause the Catalyst ending has shown Bioware is able too completely obliterate any goodwill a carefully constructed fantasy universe they created has garnered.

The risk is there this won't be an isolated incident so questions concerning future projects will always surface.

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Mr. Gogeta34 wrote...

Let Bioware's forumers talk about whatever they want... that's what the forums are here for. An ending rant/praise section may help those who can't accept this.


This.

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Argolas wrote...

Complaining about complaining about complaining: Complaining about complaining again, BSN?


complainception....


otherwise, why should I ? There is much more then just ending issues with the game...

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Another ending debate...It's over people, unless Citadel DLC changes anything. What we have is this:

Some people got their ending and are happy.
Some people didn't get theirs and they are dissapointed.

I don't hate you OP for liking the game, but I personally would like a little more choices not A, B, C, D. It wouldn't be hard to expand the game...like Failed controll option, succesfull refuse, failed synthesis....those would be awesome.

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Bioware can go jump in a sarlacc pit, for lack of a better place, and take their ME3 game with them.

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McFlurry598 wrote...

 People need to stop posting about the ending, it's over. Bioware gave us a FREE EC.

Fact

Sure the ending was garbage before the EC.

Opinion. 

All these polls about it are pointless.

Opinion.

The fact that everyone hates the ending because Shepard dies is ridiculous,

Opinion.

I know there is other reasons why people hate it, but, this seems to be the main reason(in my observations).

Opinion.

Translation = IZ TRU FAN SO TORK ABOUT STUFF I WNA TORK ABOUT.

People aren't going to shut up about it, whether you like it or not. Creating threads like this isn't going to make anyone stop.

Only time will. And even then... Well look at the Star Wars prequels...

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Jadebaby wrote...

Only time will. And even then... Well look at the Star Wars prequels...


Aa very good point. Would you want to be remembered for trashing a cultural icon with substandard work based off of greed more than a desire to improve the quality of society through quality workmanship?

I wouldn't.  Apparently enough folks at BW don't have a fall back job so they can take a moral stand...

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MrGMM88 wrote...

ME3 was a broken product and Bioware never shown any regret for it instead they went passive aggressive on their customers.

The moment you start letting companies off the hock for doing these things you give them a free pass. A free pass to do whatever they want, how they want.

No need to deliver the full game on release when the last third can be sold as DLC.
No need for good writing when fans will attack anyone who dares to question the devs.
No need to keep pre production promises or stick to what you advertise

DA2, SWTOR, ME3 are what we get when we allow this to happen yet people still havent learned their lesson.

The ending was broken and flawed a year ago and it still is today, the fact that people still complain proofs that. A simple apology to the fans would have saved a lot of anger but thats not PR wants to do so we keep on pretending that its just those "entitled" gamers.


I don't think broken product means what you think it means.

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Some people "whine and complain"mostly due the the direction bioware have been taking with the last few products,such as liner plot,corner cutting,and rushing stuff.the ending only serve as some sort of avatar of what is going wrong with them right now.

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I'd like to think most of us complain out of love. I know I do.
And I look at it like this: As fans, if we see something that is so out of touch with the game as a whole and didn't say anything at all, then we're not real fans. Something had to be off if somebody after playing the ending came to the conclusion: it was all dream.

So, for some of us, its hard to let go of something like this. A lot of us have come to love the world of Mass Effect. We're emotionally invested. A sign that BW did a damn good job.

Then this weird, out of touchy ending comes along with little to no explaination  (in and out of game) other than speculation. Its like a slap in the face.

I don't think we'll ever see the likes of DAO or ME1 again. Not with EA's culture pushing them.

Modifié par High Kicks, 22 février 2013 - 04:20 .