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Won' t this new dlc just make the ending harder to swallow for a lot of people?


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Brovikk Rasputin

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No, not really. If I want my Shep to return to all these people, I'll just pick high-EMS destroy. Th endings are great anyway, so I really don't see the issue here.

Modifié par Brovikk Rasputin, 23 février 2013 - 12:40 .


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iamthedave3

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If these endings are 'great' then the gaming industry's standards really are low these days...

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Mcfly616

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iamthedave3 wrote...

If these endings are 'great' then the gaming industry's standards really are low these days...

its better than a lot of other games endings this past year. AC3, FC3, BL2.....all their conclusions are worse than ME3's. And yet, all of them were up for GOTY.

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Mcfly616 wrote...

iamthedave3 wrote...

If these endings are 'great' then the gaming industry's standards really are low these days...

its better than a lot of other games endings this past year. AC3, FC3, BL2.....all their conclusions are worse than ME3's. And yet, all of them were up for GOTY.


this does not speak for the state of our hobby.

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BaladasDemnevanni

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Dr_Extrem wrote...

Mcfly616 wrote...

iamthedave3 wrote...

If these endings are 'great' then the gaming industry's standards really are low these days...

its better than a lot of other games endings this past year. AC3, FC3, BL2.....all their conclusions are worse than ME3's. And yet, all of them were up for GOTY.


this does not speak for the state of our hobby.


Agreed. Comparing crap against crap leaves alot to be desired.

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Eterna5 wrote...

Tell me, do you find hanging out with your friends pointless and sad because you are going to die someday?


Dear Whedon,

YES.

I try to grab all the happiness and enjoyment I can out of life, but...

yes.

I think the difference the OP means is, after you witness your own death and the death and destruction of everything you hold dear, can you enjoy building that up KNOWING what is going to happen?

It's a common concept, in speculative fiction at least, that know the time and cause of your own death drains a person of all desire to live.

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MerinTB wrote...

Dear Whedon,

YES.

I try to grab all the happiness and enjoyment I can out of life, but...

yes.

I think the difference the OP means is, after you witness your own death and the death and destruction of everything you hold dear, can you enjoy building that up KNOWING what is going to happen?

It's a common concept, in speculative fiction at least, that know the time and cause of your own death drains a person of all desire to live.


Really? I would argue the opposite: that it's a very, very common conception, not in fiction but in real life, that finging out you will die within X time makes people more altruistic.

My proof is an awful Inspirational country song that I loathe:

"I went skydivin', I went,
Rocky Mountain climbin', I went
3.7 seconds, on a Bull named Fu Manchu
And I looked deeper and I,
spoke sweeter, and I
gave forgiveness I'd been denyin'
And someday i hope you get the chance
to live like you were dyin'."

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MegaSovereign

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OP, you don't have to download the DLC if you feel that way.

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MegaSovereign wrote...

OP, you don't have to download the DLC if you feel that way.


Exactly, don't support Bioware by purchasing this, money speaks.  

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Here's an idea for you OP:

Don't get it then.

I know it's pretty shocking that you can do that eh.

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MerinTB wrote...

I think the difference the OP means is, after you witness your own death and the death and destruction of everything you hold dear, can you enjoy building that up KNOWING what is going to happen?


Huh? If you don't want everything you hold dear destroyed, just don't pick Refuse. It's not rocket science.

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FAButzke wrote...


Hey, I'm not the one crying for almost an year about a video game. I'm just stating facts. Speaking of which, if the whiners could take the hint after EC (I.E: We will not release any more ending content) we would not be having this conversation right now. But oh, I don't know why i'm telling you that, i'm sure someone like you has been told 100 times already.


I'm telling people to not lash out for a year. So I lash out for a year. 

:lol:

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AlanC9 wrote...

MerinTB wrote...

I think the difference the OP means is, after you witness your own death and the death and destruction of everything you hold dear, can you enjoy building that up KNOWING what is going to happen?


Huh? If you don't want everything you hold dear destroyed, just don't pick Refuse. It's not rocket science.


Oh Alan,  you're so silly being the White Knight for Bioware.  I wouldnt at all be suprised if you were one of the developers child or something similar.

If you cant understand the gist of why people complain about the ending,  you shouldnt even bother.  You're never going to "win" that argument.  I'll make it simple for you though,  what Merin was driving at was a little something called closure,  a discussion I've never seen you fully defend well.   Your quest is set forth,  tally-ho!  

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DetcelferVisionary wrote...


If you cant understand the gist of why people complain about the ending,  you shouldnt even bother.  You're never going to "win" that argument.  I'll make it simple for you though,  what Merin was driving at was a little something called closure,  a discussion I've never seen you fully defend well.   Your quest is set forth,  tally-ho!  


People shouldn't post nonsense instead of their actual arguments. If he doesn't mean to talk about "the death and destruction of everything you hold dear", he shouldn't type "the death and destruction of everything you hold dear."

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Mcfly616 wrote...

iamthedave3 wrote...

If these endings are 'great' then the gaming industry's standards really are low these days...

its better than a lot of other games endings this past year. AC3, FC3, BL2.....all their conclusions are worse than ME3's. And yet, all of them were up for GOTY.


That's hardly a ringing endorsement for ME3...

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AlanC9 wrote...

MerinTB wrote...

I think the difference the OP means is, after you witness your own death and the death and destruction of everything you hold dear, can you enjoy building that up KNOWING what is going to happen?


Huh? If you don't want everything you hold dear destroyed, just don't pick Refuse. It's not rocket science.


And if it's your personal values you hold dear, which every single ending choice forces me to betray?

Why Richard, it profits a man nothing to lose his soul for the whole world... but for Wales?  Sir Thomas More, "A Man for All Seasons"

Modifié par iakus, 23 février 2013 - 08:19 .


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Cainhurst Crow

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SpamBot2000 wrote...

Darth Brotarian wrote...

Haargel wrote...

Ahh well, it would probably the same if we had the chance to protest online when ME just came out.

-snip-


What IS all that?


That's Customer Feedback. You know, the thing that BioWare pretends doesn't exist unless it contains religious imagery about their company.


It looks like a horrible way to having customer feedback. 

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No war has ever been won with "personal values".

You win by sacrifice. Shepard isn't "betraying" anyone by choosing destroy. He's sacrificing a group of willing individuals who are already choosing to risk their lives to save a larger whole. That's a choice that gets made in war all the time.

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AlanC9

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iakus wrote...

Mcfly616 wrote...

iamthedave3 wrote...

If these endings are 'great' then the gaming industry's standards really are low these days...

its better than a lot of other games endings this past year. AC3, FC3, BL2.....all their conclusions are worse than ME3's. And yet, all of them were up for GOTY.


That's hardly a ringing endorsement for ME3...


Looks like all three of you are in agreement. 

Don't ask me -- I haven't actually played any of those other games. Should I?

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SurfaceBeneath wrote...

No war has ever been won with "personal values".

You win by sacrifice. Shepard isn't "betraying" anyone by choosing destroy. He's sacrificing a group of willing individuals who are already choosing to risk their lives to save a larger whole. That's a choice that gets made in war all the time.


Funny I don't remember Shepard calling the Normandy or Sword Fleet, saying "I'm about to end the Reapers, but this is going to kill all synthetic life.  I'm sorry"

 Nor do I recall EDI or the geth saying "I understand, Commander.  It has been an honor"

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Yeah, usually generals don't tell the units they send to die that they're going to die either.

They say, "Hey, you're going to attack here. You know the risks. Good luck."

War sucks. But every Geth and EDI was willing to die to stop the Reapers. Thems the breaks.

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AlanC9 wrote...

iakus wrote...

Mcfly616 wrote...

iamthedave3 wrote...

If these endings are 'great' then the gaming industry's standards really are low these days...

its better than a lot of other games endings this past year. AC3, FC3, BL2.....all their conclusions are worse than ME3's. And yet, all of them were up for GOTY.


That's hardly a ringing endorsement for ME3...


Looks like all three of you are in agreement. 

Don't ask me -- I haven't actually played any of those other games. Should I?


I haven't either, but then Borderlands 1 bored me after a single playthrough, and I never even got through Assassin's Creed 2.

But just because one game's, or even three games' endings sucked doesn't mean Mass Effect 3 should get a pass.

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AlanC9 wrote...

Looks like all three of you are in agreement. 

Don't ask me -- I haven't actually played any of those other games. Should I?


I've played AC3. it was a little underwhelming, but certainly not bad.

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MegaSovereign

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If sacrifices are considered unacceptable in all cases then how did you guys even get passed Virmire.

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Nope, this romance dlc will give Shepard to opt out of Priority: Earth. Death by snu snu @ the hands of Morinth.