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[Eterna]

I approve of Jacob cheating on Femshep because it shows that not all Characters are placed into the game to simply worship the ground that Shepard walks on.

[tevix]

@Eterna5

+100 internetz

[TopSun]

Racimbavic wrote...

- I don't like Liara hate Xenos

-I like Miranda

- for me, Cerberus has the right ideals is too soft

-I really, REALLY don't like the Alliance

- Humanity first!

Modifié par Big-Boss687, 24 février 2013 - 07:16 .

[NeonFlux117]

Mr.House wrote...

I dislike ME2
I like ME3
I found Saren to be a horrible villian
I found Oleg to be a great villian
I like Vega
I did not like the suicide mission

Are there creatures that actually believe these things???  :o:o

[xAmilli0n]

Eterna5 wrote...

I approve of Jacob cheating on Femshep because it shows that not all Characters are placed into the game to simply worship the ground that Shepard walks on.

I agree with this, but I still think it could have been handled better, on both Shep and Jacobs end.

[Argolas]

I like the fact that Ashley and Kaidan dare to question The Shepard.

Also agree @Eterna5 although I never saw the scenes in question, I never bothered to romance Jacob or even youtube Jacob-related stuff.

[Han Shot First]

A few of my unpopular opinions...


1. Mass Effect 1 was the weakest game of the trilogy.

2. Mass Effect 1 has the biggest plot hole of the trilogy.

3. The ME2 Suicide Mission should have been actual suicide mission, where some squadmates died even on a 'perfect' run.

4. Post-EC ME3 is the best game of the series, even with its flaws.

5. I didn't mind the dream sequences.



Not necessarily unpopular opinions, but would probably rustle a few jimmies...


1. Tali shouldn't look like a human and her most popular fanart is awful.

2. James is a good character.

3. Ashley isn't a racist bible-thumper.

4. Mark Meer did better job with Shepard's voice acting than Jennifer Hale.

5. Liara's role in ME3 was not too big.

6. Thane's death scene was well done and one of the more emotionally impactful moments of the series.

7. Bioware made the right decision in having no option to cure Thane from Kepral's Syndrome.

8. The Mako was awesome, only the terrain sucked.

9. Bioware made the right decision in not having conventional victory be an option in ME3.

10. ME3 EDI was a great character with a disappointing character model.



The road less travelled...


Romanced Liara but never took the 'marriage and blue babies' dialogue path in LotSB in response to Liara asking what comes next. I prefer the dialogue path where Shepard instead says something like, "You've seen the data, Liara. You know what we're up against. Even if we somehow do pull this off, I don't think we get to enjoy the victory parade."
 
Liara then gets upset and asks what the point of their romance is, and Shepard repliees that they aren't dead yet, and should make the most of whatever time they have left together. Its definitely a lot darker than the 'blue baby' dialogue path but that is also why I like it. I feel it has a more realistic tone considering the backdrop is an impending Reaper invasion.

In ME3 I also prefer Shepard to be conflicted on Tuchanka, wanting to cure the genophage (because of Krogan like Wrex and Eve) but having doubts (because of Krogan like Wreav) and torn between competing interests. (Krogan ground troops vs Salarian fleet) I have Shepard not tell Mordin about the sabotage until the very end, and then have Shepard threaten to shoot him. I then have Mordin call Shepard's bluff, don't take the shot, and allow Mordin to cure the genophage.

I just think the way that all plays out feels has more tension and feels more cinematic than it would otherwise, and I both like Mordin's respectful and understanding nod before he rides up to the tower (as opposed to the seashell quote), and Shepard tossing aside his firearm as he walks away.

[KiwiQuiche]

Refuse is the only ending where Shepard actually makes a choice.

[xAmilli0n]

Han Shot First wrote...


2. Mass Effect 1 has the biggest plot hole of the trilogy.

Just curious, but which one are you refering to?

The road less travelled...


Romanced Liara but never took the 'marriage and blue babies' dialogue path in LotSB in response to Liara asking what comes next. I prefer the dialogue path where Shepard instead says something like, "You've seen the data, Liara. You know what we're up against. Even if we somehow do pull this off, I don't think we get to enjoy the victory parade."
 
Liara then gets upset and asks what the point of their romance is, and Shepard repliees that they aren't dead yet, and should make the most of whatever time they have left together. Its definitely a lot darker than the 'blue baby' dialogue path but that is also why I like it. I feel it has a more realistic tone considering the backdrop is an impending Reaper invasion.

Cool, didn't know about this one.  I know Miranda in ME2 also a line that is rarely taken (not the typical romance line you would pick) that I often take because it makes the romance tone appropriate and impactful.

[teh DRUMPf!!]

NeonFlux117 wrote...

Mr.House wrote...

I dislike ME2
I like ME3
I found Saren to be a horrible villian
I found Oleg to be a great villian
I like Vega
I did not like the suicide mission

Are there creatures that actually believe these things???  :o:o

Aside from Saren being a "horrible" villain (I'm pretty ambivalent about him) I agree 100% with that post.

[nos_astra]

xAmilli0n wrote...

Han Shot First wrote...


2. Mass Effect 1 has the biggest plot hole of the trilogy.

Just curious, but which one are you refering to?

I believe he refers to the "Saren could just walk into the Council chamber and activate the relay" theory.

I agree that there is a plothole (or some other sort of subpar storytelling) in there. I disagree that it's the biggest one.

Modifié par klarabella, 24 février 2013 - 08:13 .

[DirtyBird627]

Han Shot First wrote...

A few of my unpopular opinions...


1. Mass Effect 1 was the weakest game of the trilogy.

2. Mass Effect 1 has the biggest plot hole of the trilogy.

3. The ME2 Suicide Mission should have been actual suicide mission, where some squadmates died even on a 'perfect' run.

4. Post-EC ME3 is the best game of the series, even with its flaws.

5. I didn't mind the dream sequences.



Not necessarily unpopular opinions, but would probably rustle a few jimmies...


1. Tali shouldn't look like a human and her most popular fanart is awful.

2. James is a good character.

3. Ashley isn't a racist bible-thumper.

4. Mark Meer did better job with Shepard's voice acting than Jennifer Hale.

5. Liara's role in ME3 was not too big.

6. Thane's death scene was well done and one of the more emotionally impactful moments of the series.

7. Bioware made the right decision in having no option to cure Thane from Kepral's Syndrome.

8. The Mako was awesome, only the terrain sucked.

9. Bioware made the right decision in not having conventional victory be an option in ME3.

10. ME3 EDI was a great character with a disappointing character model.

This is a thoughful list and I largely agree with it. I would just say that I think the Meer's VA became better then Hale's in ME3, starting a little behind in ME1 and being about even in ME2, so I guess he kind of evolved into the role with time. Also, while I don't agree with all the story choices, ME3 is definitely the most mechanically sound of the trilogy imo. Added to that, I never understood the Ashley hate that some seem to have, she starts out being a bit ignorant but she does exactly what a reasonable person could be expected to do, she learns from experience that she's wrong and develops into a pretty good character. Finally, I too like James, and I found the deaths of characters like Thane and Mordin to be totally appropriate.

[GeneralMoskvin_2.0]

Han Shot First wrote...

A few of my unpopular opinions...


1. Mass Effect 1 was the weakest game of the trilogy.

2. Mass Effect 1 has the biggest plot hole of the trilogy.


5. I didn't mind the dream sequences.



Not necessarily unpopular opinions, but would probably rustle a few jimmies...


1. Tali shouldn't look like a human and her most popular fanart is awful.

2. James is a good character.

4. Mark Meer did better job with Shepard's voice acting than Jennifer Hale.

6. Thane's death scene was well done and one of the more emotionally impactful moments of the series.

7. Bioware made the right decision in having no option to cure Thane from Kepral's Syndrome.

8. The Mako was awesome, only the terrain sucked.

9. Bioware made the right decision in not having conventional victory be an option in ME3.

10. ME3 EDI was a great character with a disappointing character model.



The road less travelled...


Romanced Liara but never took the 'marriage and blue babies' dialogue path in LotSB in response to Liara asking what comes next. I prefer the dialogue path where Shepard instead says something like, "You've seen the data, Liara. You know what we're up against. Even if we somehow do pull this off, I don't think we get to enjoy the victory parade."
 
Liara then gets upset and asks what the point of their romance is, and Shepard repliees that they aren't dead yet, and should make the most of whatever time they have left together. Its definitely a lot darker than the 'blue baby' dialogue path but that is also why I like it. I feel it has a more realistic tone considering the backdrop is an impending Reaper invasion.

In ME3 I also prefer Shepard to be conflicted on Tuchanka, wanting to cure the genophage (because of Krogan like Wrex and Eve) but having doubts (because of Krogan like Wreav) and torn between competing interests. (Krogan ground troops vs Salarian fleet) I have Shepard not tell Mordin about the sabotage until the very end, and then have Shepard threaten to shoot him. I then have Mordin call Shepard's bluff, don't take the shot, and allow Mordin to cure the genophage.

I just think the way that all plays out feels has more tension and feels more cinematic than it would otherwise, and I both like Mordin's respectful and understanding nod before he rides up to the tower (as opposed to the seashell quote), and Shepard tossing aside his firearm as he walks away.

I agree with the statements I quoted. Also, the Liara romance path is interesting. I never liked the fact that the destruction of sentient life may be imminent and Liara only camp in front of Shepard's cabin. Good one there.

[Han Shot First]

xAmilli0n wrote...

Han Shot First wrote...


2. Mass Effect 1 has the biggest plot hole of the trilogy.

Just curious, but which one are you refering to?

Klarabella got it.

ME1's main plot was always a little wonky for me, because it revolves around Saren attacking Eden Prime to access a Prothean beacon which reveals the location of the Conduit, which in turn allows him to jump into the Citadal.

The problem is that the game starts with Saren as a Spectre who already had access to the Presidium (as did his indoctrinated commandos), and no one as yet had any knowledge about indoctrination or Reapers. Had he simply attacked from the inside, no one would have seen him coming. Also, he already a Prothean beacon on Virmire.

Because of ME1's plot oddities I always wondered whether originally Saren wasn't supposed to be a Spectre, and the decision to make him one was a late addition to the script. His needing the Conduit makes sense if he's not a Spectre.

I do like ME1 and was able to overlook all of that because it is a fun ride, but I also like pointing out its problems whenever someone mentions the game's 'flawless writing.' That sometimes counts as an unpopular opinion around these parts.

xAmilli0n wrote...

Cool, didn't know about this one.  I know Miranda in ME2 also a line that is rarely taken (not the typical romance line you would pick) that I often take because it makes the romance tone appropriate and impactful.

Which line is that?

My Shep also romanced Miranda in ME2, so I'm curious whether I chose the same line or might have missed something good.

Modifié par Han Shot First, 24 février 2013 - 09:06 .

[DeinonSlayer]

tevix wrote...

@Shallyah

Could you explain this rational thinking that you say set in amongst your friends? From your post it sounds like it boiled down to "The quarians are alive, the geth aren't. Blow 'em up." This is fiercely a matter of opinion with little to no solid reasoning behind it (regardless of which way you believe). If that's not the case I'd love to hear your reasoning for what makes the quarians logically, statistically and tactically the best choice if you pick one or the other.

It doesn't look like Shallyah answered, but I'll take a stab at the last sentence.

Logically: the Geth sided with the Reapers by choice. The Quarians didn't. In their current war, arguably, both sides acted under duress, but the Quarian decision to attack had the potential to screw over the Geth, and the Geth decision to side with the Reapers had the potential to screw over everyone. The Quarians, despite being kicked around for centuries, have played an active part in galactic affairs (see: aid provided in the wake of the Taetrus Blast), meanwhile the Geth killed anyone who entered their space for centuries on end with no attempts at communication and did nothing about the heretics until they, themselves, were under threat. What it basically comes down to is that, logically, there is more reason to trust the Quarians than there is to trust the Geth, Legion or no Legion. Besides... what basis is there to trust this Reaper code at all, especially after what happened with the IFF? Without metagaming, what reason do you have to believe it won't turn their entire fleet against you?

Statistically: there's a very good chance Shepard chose to destroy the Geth Heretics. If that's the case, the Quarians are more numerous than the Geth to begin with - and worth more as a war asset.

Tactically: Hackett sent you to recruit a fleet to specifically provide logistical support for the other races. Geth ships are built for combat, but they won't be as good at handling logistics - you aren't going to be moving organic troops or refugees in ships which have no air in them. In the original script, in fact, Garrus' family died on Palaven unless the Quarians were around to evacuate them (that part was cut, but we still see Tali speak with a Turian on the Citadel to arrange the evacuation of one of their colonies).

[Jonathan Sud]

- Padok Wiks is better than Mordin.
- Sovereign was a horrible villain
- Priority: Earth is fine
- Legion and EDI are f***ing machines who I won't hold in high regards
- Vega is actually a pretty cool bro
- Thane's death was fine. Really damn emotional and well written, actually.
- Nyreen sucks major eggs as a character
- Leviathan DLC is up there with LotSB
- Overlord DLC is best DLC
- Kai Leng is an awesome villain, even if cliche

*cowers in a corner*

Modifié par Jonathan Sud, 24 février 2013 - 09:39 .

[Dr_Extrem]

i respect other peoples opinions and people in general

[DeinonSlayer]

Jonathan Sud wrote...

...Padok Wiks is better than Mordin.

*cowers in a corner*

Be not afraid, ye who speaketh true. :innocent:

...oh crap, now they'll be looking at me. *cowers in a corner*

[TheGreatDayne]

Does "I freaking hate the reaper plot thing... and being a half robot space Marine who became galaxy's last hope" count? Because I REALLY hated the reaper thing... Learning more about it in ME3 made things worse (since I started in ME2 and had no idea what reapers were... or spectres... I actually almost thought I was half ghost sometime in ME2).

Oh, I also think the galaxy sucks for relying on Shepard to pick its rear back to shape... And humanity sucks... Screw you, Alliance! I want my proper lighting back (Okay, I'm not serious about the humanity thing).

Modifié par TheGreatDayne, 24 février 2013 - 09:43 .

[Ieldra]

xAmilli0n wrote...
I know Miranda in ME2 also a line that is rarely taken (not the typical romance line you would pick) that I often take because it makes the romance tone appropriate and impactful.

I guess you're talking about the option to delay the romance. I love the line, but it removes the romance flag, so I never use this option. 

[Ieldra]

As for unpopular opinions:

The Crucible is perfect as a plot device to end the Reaper threat, and the scenes where it was shown are great. I feared that we would just find a solution lying around somewhere, instead we build it and its building is shown as a great achievement. There are some problems with the writing, which are, as usual, the result of the principle "drama over consistency", but all in all it's a great idea.

Modifié par Ieldra2, 24 février 2013 - 10:21 .

[Milotic12]

Got quite a few...

- I really didn't like the Quarians, any of them.
- Loved Thane as a character and liked his heroic death
- Mordin, Wrex and Legion already had plenty of screentime in ME3.
- Wrex is cool but never really understood why everyone loved him.
- Kaidan is a fantastic character, don't understand the 'boring' comments.
- MORINTH. A character with such potential entirely wasted in ME2 and 3.

[Argolas]

Ieldra2 wrote...

As for unpopular opinions:

The Crucible is perfect as a plot device to end the Reaper threat, and the scenes where it was shown are great. I feared that we would just find a solution lying around somewhere, instead we build it and its building is shown as a great achievement. There are some problems with the writing, which are, as usual, the result of the principle "drama over consistency", but all in all it's a great idea.

I can relate to that. I don't think it was brilliant, but it served its purpose and it felt appropriate that it turned out to be the work of not only our cycle but of very many other cycles that the reapers wiped out before. Using the crucible in the end feels like the final triumph over the Reapers and the cycle of death they represent as well as the start of a new era.

[Saito404]

My unpopular opinions:
- ME2 is worst game in the trilogy
- Shepard from ME2&3 is worst character
- Cerberus and TIM sucks
- Renegades sucks
- Ashley is not a racist, religios freak, Pure Galactic Evil or whatever
- Liara is Mary Sue
- Garrus and Tali are not "most loyal friends"
- Geth sucks
- I can's stand FemShep voice

Modifié par Saito404, 24 février 2013 - 11:54 .

[L2 Sentinel]

Rauhel wrote...

I skipped Lair of the Shadow Broker, and I'm really glad I did.
I never buy fish. I think they are horrible pets. I could get the same enjoyment from a digital picture frame.
I don't have a space hamster.
ME3 was my favorite game in the trilogy.
I don't think the alien characters are any more interesting than the humans.
I think the VS is justified for their behavior on Horizon and Mars.

Adding to my previous list:

- I don't care much for Kal'Reeger just because he sounds like a commando. I prefer Veetor and Kenn.
- A batarian squadmate doesn't appeal to me at all. I'd prefer a female salarian or a male quarian.
- The only two reasons I didn't buy Omega were because I hate Aria and I never want to go back to that dump.
- I don't pray with Kolyat and Thane. Part of me thinks it's polite to humor a dying man, but mostly I feel like I am intruding on their special moment by feigning sincerity when I actually think they are deluding themselves.

Modifié par Rauhel, 24 février 2013 - 12:00 .