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Ykulnu wrote...

 I'm sure we all have those likes, dislikes, and theories we don't see all that often on here... What are some of yours?

I didn't save the Destiny Ascension, but not necessarily because of human interests. I refused because we had a goddamn Reaper on the Citadel. I felt that every resource available should have been used to make that thing die at all costs.  I had no idea the choice was supposedly for human interests until I saw discussion about it here.


I don't think that you have to do it for human interests. The galaxy will percieve it that way no matter what, but your reasons can still be your own.

I like Jacob.


I cannot agree, but I respect your opinion.

I also like James, as a character.


I love James. I think he's great, well written, and developed well. Great interactions with Cortez and on missions you take him on.

AND HERE'S THE BIG ONE

I think the lack of screentime/scenes for some romances is fine and actually a good way to establish the frantic, scattering environment that war is.


I didn't think it was terrible. Still wished for more time with Miranda.

Miranda got PLENTY of screentime.


There is no such thing as too much Miranda screen time ;)

My unpopular opinions look like this:

Before the EC, the ending was sub-par, but still better than most video games.

After the EC, it's alright. I even like quite a bit of it.

I think Javik is not as cool as everyone thinks he is. Yeah, he's the last Prothean. I honestly would have rathered the Protheans stay dead and off-screen. Some development with Liara was interesting and he's not a BAD character, but I don't find him as interesting as everyone else does.

I think Shane's death was perfect for his character and he went out like a bad-ass.

Jacob's best moment - from a writing perspective - is when he cheats on fem-shep. Yeah, it sucks for Fem-sheps that romanced him, but, he didn't have a lot of good development up until then. That was the most interesting thing I ever learned about Jacob.

It's totally okay that Liara got so much screen time and plot armor. She's cool and she's an important character. But I still left her for Miranda. Sorry, no blue babies for me - unless we adopt them, I guess.

I think the "Boss fight" with the illusive man was brilliant and I hate the idea of adding a traditional "boss fight" to the end of Mass Effect.

That's all I got right now :)

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- I wish heavy accents disappear from voiced games. Couldn't understand a thing from Samantha and sometimes Zaeed. English is not my first, but I don't want to depend on subtitles all the time.

- What Kaidan fans call "maturing" of the character in terms of looks, it's actually "degradation". His lashes are gone, important textures (normal maps which add illusion of detail to the skin) were shrink and wiped "flat" on certain edges to avoid the seam between face and scalp. It's the laziest way to go. In other words, his looks was on the verge of the uncanny valley, but in ME3 instead of fixing that, he just fell deep within this category.

- He's still my favorite character in the series.

Edit:
- Same as OP, I never decided to help DA. There was an effin reaper on the citadel that needed quick reaction. At my first pt, I really believed that something worse will happen if I don't act against Sov. Took me a while before I understood the nature of "choices".

Modifié par AkodoRyu, 24 février 2013 - 12:38 .


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Also, OP, great thread. Love this and I love reading everyone's diverse set of opinions.

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Dr_Extrem wrote...

i respect other peoples opinions and people in general


Definitely the least popular stance on BSN. Everyone else go home.


As for me:
  • I'm hopelessly in love with James, Javik, and Zaeed.
  • I am completely indifferent to the Mako. Seriously, no positive or negative feelings here.
  • Hackett is a dickwad. It vexes me greatly that he survived.
  • I like Alenko but my contempt and loathing for Williams is inexplicable. So! I let the Lt. have his hero's death on Virmire while I shoot Ashley down like a dog 3 years later. She is useful for hair modding though.
  • The (presumed?) annihilation of the AI menace in the Red Ending was a perk, not a repercussion.
  • Lens flare is neato
Cool topic, OP.

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ME1's main plot was always a little wonky for me, because it revolves around Saren attacking Eden Prime to access a Prothean beacon which reveals the location of the Conduit, which in turn allows him to jump into the Citadal.

The problem is that the game starts with Saren as a Spectre who already had access to the Presidium (as did his indoctrinated commandos), and no one as yet had any knowledge about indoctrination or Reapers. Had he simply attacked from the inside, no one would have seen him coming. Also, he already a Prothean beacon on Virmire.

Because of ME1's plot oddities I always wondered whether originally Saren wasn't supposed to be a Spectre, and the decision to make him one was a late addition to the script. His needing the Conduit makes sense if he's not a Spectre.

I do like ME1 and was able to overlook all of that because it is a fun ride, but I also like pointing out its problems whenever someone mentions the game's 'flawless writing.' That sometimes counts as an unpopular opinion around these parts. Image IPB

Except that Bioware devs already debunked that "plot hole" of yours. Saren was a Spectre but even a Spectre cannot do whatever he wants and assume that he can get away with it. In other words if he had tried to walk into the council chambers and tried to take control, C-Sec would've taken him down. If you bring Wrex along with up to the council chambers you can even hear him commenting on the lack of apparent security and he goes on betting that there are 10 snipers or so watching your every move.

I believe the Bioware dev likened a Spectre to a CIA or secret service agent, the agent cannot just walk into a highly sensitive area and attempt to take control without expecting to be stopped.

 

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Oh, I have another one:

-I like Sovereign, but hate Harbinger. For me, Harbinger is just ridiculous whereas Sovereign is a villain that I can take serious.

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Racimbavic wrote...

Oh, I have another one:

-I like Sovereign, but hate Harbinger. For me, Harbinger is just ridiculous whereas Sovereign is a villain that I can take serious.


Is that unpopular? I hate Harbinger, too. Sovereign would have made a better king Reaper.

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Racimbavic wrote...

Oh, I have another one:

-I like Sovereign, but hate Harbinger. For me, Harbinger is just ridiculous whereas Sovereign is a villain that I can take serious.


This is quite a widely held belief here.

Just so I'm contributing: Tali did not exist in my ME3 experience - and she was not particularly missed

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chrisutd wrote...

Racimbavic wrote...

Oh, I have another one:

-I like Sovereign, but hate Harbinger. For me, Harbinger is just ridiculous whereas Sovereign is a villain that I can take serious.


This is quite a widely held belief here.

Just so I'm contributing: Tali did not exist in my ME3 experience - and she was not particularly missed


this WAS a widely held belief

then ME3 cut him out and suddenly he was the greatest villain ever

generally everything I post is an unpopular opinion

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but I honestly have no idea what the consensus on James is

sometimes BSN loves him, sometimes y'all hate his guts

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Yate wrote...

but I honestly have no idea what the consensus on James is

sometimes BSN loves him, sometimes y'all hate his guts


I'm just really confused by him. Like the time he started using hispanic lingo. I was like o_0 he's Latino?? Worst accent since Keanu in Drakula.

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I liked the Mako sections in ME1 as well as the Hammerhead in ME2 and was disappointed at the lack of vehicle combat in ME3.

I absolutely hated Zaeed and always kill him in his loyalty mission post ending if I don't purposely kill him during the suicide mission. (Nothing personal Robin Sachs, R.I.P. dude)

I always let Al-Jilani punch me in ME3 as I find it humorous.

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Yate wrote...

chrisutd wrote...

Racimbavic wrote...

Oh, I have another one:

-I like Sovereign, but hate Harbinger. For me, Harbinger is just ridiculous whereas Sovereign is a villain that I can take serious.


This is quite a widely held belief here.

Just so I'm contributing: Tali did not exist in my ME3 experience - and she was not particularly missed


this WAS a widely held belief

then ME3 cut him out and suddenly he was the greatest villain ever

generally everything I post is an unpopular opinion


From what I've seen the BSN feel generally aggrieved at the lack of Harbinger confrontation, which I don't think implies popularity, only that he was understood to be 'reaper leader' and gamers have come to expect some kind of final fight.  Sovereign's reputation - I think - has something to do with this conversation.  It was our first exposure to a reaper, so naturally it leaves an impression.

Modifié par chrisutd, 24 février 2013 - 02:39 .


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I find the ME1 side quests a chore and usually avoid doing them.

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i really liked aria's character

and i thought she would be perfect to have as a squadmate and LI
for a renegade shepard. sadly she was banned to the couch.

the rest of my unpopular opinions i cant voice on bsn becouse its the moderators that dont like them so il likely just get banned for it and you never get to read them anyways

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I prefer playing as male Shepard. Femshep, especially in 3, makes me cringe.
I prefer Padok Wiks to ME3 Mordin
I don't hate Priority: Earth and I like the lack of music
I don't hate the endings. I now feel like you pick your endings throughout the game, and how you use the crucible just "colors" the choices you've already made.
ME1 Liara was the best Liara. By the time 3 rolled around I was done with her.
I like the mako and exploring with it. On normal difficulties when its' drawbacks can't get you killed quickly, I should say.
I don't hate Vega. I don't love his character, but I don't loathe him either.
Although Tali is my main love interest, I would have preferred a male quarian soldier,like Kal' Reegar for a squadmate.
I don't quite like the whole Geth heretic storyline started in ME2. Seemed an obvious route to go with the geth. "But we're not all bad!"
I don't hate the Catalyst. He is an A.I. with broken logic.
I like the nightmare sequences. I particularly like all of the dark shadows talking and forming a circle around the boy.
Perhaps the character who died on Virmire would have also been interesting, but a child can be to. It is just hard to make a child in a movie or game not annoying. Road Warrior got it right, just have the kid be feral and make noises. I do kind of wish we could have heard the Catalyst talk in its' normal, Leviathan/Reaper voice for a bit without choosing refuse.

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I love the indoctrination theory, and Chris Priestly is lame.

Modifié par Codename_Code, 24 février 2013 - 03:46 .


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- Reapers didn't get any interesting till ME3 thanks to the Catalyst and Leviathans. Before that, they were easily the weakest part of the lore. And no, they're not fine because "they're Lovecraftian". Lovecraftian villain(s) need Lovecraftian hero(s) and setting to work effectively, ME franchise was never that.

- Garrus relied way too much on memes and cool-factor in ME2 and especially ME3. How many times calibrations joke has beed repeated in ME3? It's kind of like opposite of Wrex. Wrex was also "a cool character" in ME1, but he continued to develop throughout the trilogy while Garrus' character arc & developement pretty much started and finished in ME1. Then it was mostly about making Garrus even "cooler", funnier, badass, bro bro bro etc.

- quite ironically, with the smallest amount of dialogue options, the character role playing aspect in ME3 may actually be the best in he trilogy because Bioware FINALLY removed the stupid "Angel/Devil points requirement" that punished everyone who wasn't either a hardcore Mother Teresa or a walking mas murderer. In ME3, people were finally able pick options they actually wanted, not just the ones they thought would give them enough Angel/Devil points to perform some action later on.

Modifié par IsaacShep, 24 février 2013 - 03:51 .


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Since thre's a lot of Mako love here can I just say how much I loathe that tank but I loved the Hammerhead. I also love the car chase in LotSB - is it too much to hope for one in Citadel?

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^That's an interesting point. What's the majority's opinion on the Hammerhead?

Myself, I didn't enjoy it and I think the majority would agree, but I'm not too sure.

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I love the idea of The Crucible. Gathering assets for it feels extremely satisfying.

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I loved the Mars mission.

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Argolas wrote...

^That's an interesting point. What's the majority's opinion on the Hammerhead?

Myself, I didn't enjoy it and I think the majority would agree, but I'm not too sure.

There's no majority opinion on either vehicle. First, there are 2 camps - the 1st that liked vehicle gameplay in ME1/ME2, the second that didn't. Then the 1st camp divides into Mako fans, Hammerhead fans, people who liked both or didn't really like either but liked the idea of vehicle gameplay.

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Reaper IFF is the single worst mission of the entire trilogy.

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Argolas wrote...

^That's an interesting point. What's the majority's opinion on the Hammerhead?

Myself, I didn't enjoy it and I think the majority would agree, but I'm not too sure.


I liked its capabilities and mobility, but it took hits like wet tissue paper, especially at higher difficulties. I remember having to cheese out turrets and geth with potshots on my Insanity run, with each turret taking at least 5 minutes, becuase the damn Hammerhead couldn't take hits for more than 3 or 4 seconds.

Modifié par Ykulnu, 24 février 2013 - 05:01 .