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Well for one, Meredith did approve it (Tranquil Solution). Just not officially.

Proof?


....Is it really this hard?

Legally the only way to Tranquil a mage is through the agreed consent of both the Knight Commander and First Enchanter, and it is strictly ILLEGAL to Tranquil a mage who has gone through their Harrowing. 

So if Alrik is Tranquiling mages left and right, he is either doing it with Meredith's blessing, legality be damned, or he's doing it without her consent, in which case she's blind as a bat, or noticing the sudden spike in numbers of Tranquiled mages and not caring.

Which means that yes, it appears that Meredith was officially refusing Alrik's request to Tranquil every mage in sight, while quietly letting him Tranquil anyone he damned well pleased, or just not giving a damn about mages that disappear from the Circle only to re-appear newly Tranquiled.

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I agree with you that she is doing a more active role then a lot of Divines, but you and I will have different views on her leadership actions. Aside from her plan in Asunder I have not seen her do anything else to calm either group until after the battle of Kirkwall. Despite many pieces of evidence being shown to her since she became Divine.

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I know people will say that I'm too harsh on her but that is how I see it. I'm sorry for derailing this discussion, I just wanted to speak my POV on the topic.


I agree with you about most of your points.  I've pointed out in quite a few threads that if there is any realism to DA3's war at all, there will be more than the three sides of us, them, and in-the-middle.  It's likely that there will be quite a few factions just within the Chantry:  People who are loyal to Justinia because they genuinely know and like her personally, those who are loyal to her because they are loyal to the Divine and she's it, those loyal to the Chantry but who see Justinia as a cancer to be removed, those who don't see anything at all beyond the sudden fractionalization as the opportunity to make a bid for power, either for themselves or a puppet they want to install, and so on. 

I would like to know, though, where you get your information on what Justinia's been doing.  I thought we only had a few codices about her from the two games, and what was said about her in the book, Asunder.  I thought we simply didn't have information on what Justinia's been doing prior to Kirkwall. 

Then again, I may just need to go back and re-read Asunder.  My ability to retain detail within a book, beyond the major points, is pretty limited.

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No, you get friendship points for listening to Torpor and not dismissing valuable information he has on the state of Feynriel's mind simply because "he's a demon". Merrill says, in the Deep Roads, that you can play a Demon before he plays you if you're careful. This is something Hawke and the Warden can both accomplish.

What she's giving friendship points for is that she believes this is what you're doing. That you're using Torpor for your benefit to save Feynriel, but you're not actually going to sell him out.

No information is given to suggest that Merrill thinks this is what's going on, however. And on another occasion when Hawke tried to smooth talk his way past some ordinary human guards with a very obvious trick, Merrill blew it. If she thinks this is a trick too, why does she suddenly have the good sense to keep her mouth shut?

If Merrill is present when the quest is given by Arianni, Merrill will say, quite bitterly "The Keeper is delving into the ancient magics for this half-breed? She wouldn't do it for me."

I think Merrill supports making the deal with Torpor because she resents the attention Marethari is giving to Feynriel.

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Plaintiff wrote...

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No, you get friendship points for listening to Torpor and not dismissing valuable information he has on the state of Feynriel's mind simply because "he's a demon". Merrill says, in the Deep Roads, that you can play a Demon before he plays you if you're careful. This is something Hawke and the Warden can both accomplish.

What she's giving friendship points for is that she believes this is what you're doing. That you're using Torpor for your benefit to save Feynriel, but you're not actually going to sell him out.

No information is given to suggest that Merrill thinks this is what's going on, however. And on another occasion when Hawke tried to smooth talk his way past some ordinary human guards with a very obvious trick, Merrill blew it. If she thinks this is a trick too, why does she suddenly have the good sense to keep her mouth shut?

If Merrill is present when the quest is given by Arianni, Merrill will say, quite bitterly "The Keeper is delving into the ancient magics for this half-breed? She wouldn't do it for me."

I think Merrill supports making the deal with Torpor because she resents the attention Marethari is giving to Feynriel.


I rather see your point about Merrill's seemingly on-again/off-again ability to keep quiet, but at the same time I don't think she's capable of that kind of malice, resentful or not.

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Silfren wrote...

Rinshikai10 wrote...

I agree with you that she is doing a more active role then a lot of Divines, but you and I will have different views on her leadership actions. Aside from her plan in Asunder I have not seen her do anything else to calm either group until after the battle of Kirkwall. Despite many pieces of evidence being shown to her since she became Divine.

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I know people will say that I'm too harsh on her but that is how I see it. I'm sorry for derailing this discussion, I just wanted to speak my POV on the topic.


I agree with you about most of your points.  I've pointed out in quite a few threads that if there is any realism to DA3's war at all, there will be more than the three sides of us, them, and in-the-middle.  It's likely that there will be quite a few factions just within the Chantry:  People who are loyal to Justinia because they genuinely know and like her personally, those who are loyal to her because they are loyal to the Divine and she's it, those loyal to the Chantry but who see Justinia as a cancer to be removed, those who don't see anything at all beyond the sudden fractionalization as the opportunity to make a bid for power, either for themselves or a puppet they want to install, and so on. 

I would like to know, though, where you get your information on what Justinia's been doing.  I thought we only had a few codices about her from the two games, and what was said about her in the book, Asunder.  I thought we simply didn't have information on what Justinia's been doing prior to Kirkwall. 

Then again, I may just need to go back and re-read Asunder.  My ability to retain detail within a book, beyond the major points, is pretty limited.


You make a very valid point about realism.

Its more what she didn't do. I look at the events from 9:34-9:40 and it gives me an idea about what the Divine values and thinks. Its far from a perfect way of looking at it but, if you look at the events it shows a pattern.

Most of my information comes from other people in the world like Wynne, Fiona, Ser Alrik, and Elthina. They each have their own views, but it's her interactions and decisions that paint her views to me.

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No information is given to suggest that Merrill thinks this is what's going on, however.


In that particular quest? No. In other quests that deal with deals with Demons? Yes. That's her entire premise on dealing with Demons: play them before they play you.

And on another occasion when Hawke tried to smooth talk his way past some ordinary human guards with a very obvious trick, Merrill blew it. If she thinks this is a trick too, why does she suddenly have the good sense to keep her mouth shut?


To be fair, that instance you're talking about is in Act 1 long before both the Deep Roads Expedition and Night Terrors.

During the Deep Roads, before Hawke says anything to the Hunger Demon regarding the deal it proposes, she'll offer her advice on the matter:

"There's nothing to be afraid of. You can use it, if you're careful."

That says that one can indeed trick Demons before they trick you.

 During the Act 2 quest, Torpor suggests the possession of Feynriel she will voice her doubts on actually letting him do such a thing.

"I'm not sure we should be doing this..."

If Hawke agrees, she also reiterates her warning of caution from Act 1 more or less and says "Be cautions. Demon's don't always keep their deals". 

Much like how Merrill overrides Fenris and Varric, I believe Anders will override Merrill's comments


If Merrill is present when the quest is given by Arianni, Merrill will say, quite bitterly "The Keeper is delving into the ancient magics for this half-breed? She wouldn't do it for me."


Actually, it's not bitterly said. It's more depressingly said, filled with sorrow at the thought of how Marethari's being hypocritical for Feynriel and will delve into ancient lore for him but won't for her. She's more sad then angry, but I'm certain there's a bit of anger in there.

See, think of it like this: Marethari's going on about the "dangers of how Merrill's going to be possessed" and how "The Eluvian is evil". The Eluvian is a part of the ancient magics of Arlathan. Merrill at first approached Marethari for combined aid in restoring the Eluvian and cleansing it of the Taint, to which Marethari said "No!", prompting Merrill to turn to blood magic to have any hope of accomplishing said goal.

But then Marethari will go out and research other ancient magic about other things that carry far more danger then a mirror fragment. Worse still, she's apparently willing to travel miles and miles to help strangers to the clan, but can't even take the time of day to assist Merrill?

It's not really that she hates Feynriel, it's that she's mad at the hypocrisy of Marethari, which prompts her to use an insulting term in reference to Feynriel. She's emotiona. People say things when they're emotional, sometimes things that aren't in their character. Somniaris are noted by Marethari herself to be incredibly dangerous and incredibly powerful, but she's still researching ancient magic to help him. But Merrill can't even get Marethari's assistance on the Eluvian even after it's safe.

Furthermore, Merrill approves of Feynriel going to the Dalish for aid in Act 1, so she doesn't actually want him to be harmed. 
 

I think Merrill supports making the deal with Torpor because she resents the attention Marethari is giving to Feynriel.


She does resent the hypocrisy Marethari is engaging in, yes. But that is not why she approves of the deal.

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TEWR, what are you doing bringing sweet, gentle little Merrill into the Deep Roads anyway?  I thought you liked her!  Why are you trying to kill her?

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There aren't that many mages in Kirkwall.


Prior to Starkhaven's collapse, there were hundreds of Mages in the Gallows per Brother Genitivi and that was years prior to the game. Starkhaven saw an influx of its own mages added to Kirkwall's numbers thanks to it burning to the ground, while Ser Alrik and Cullen both note that Mages are now increasing in numbers.

Kirkwall has been a tinderbox since becoming the center of templar power in eastern Thedas. Of the hundreds of mages that live in the Gallows, it is perhaps telling that the most well known are its apostates.

Ceridweth was one such infamous apostate. She lived during the latter half of the Storm Age and was known for hunting priests and templars that abused their charges excessively. Ceridweth was also known as the Watcher and the Spiral Eye, so named for the spiral glyph she marked near her victims.

Templar records show that Ceridweth was captured and made Tranquil in 7:90 Storm. Many refuse to believe this, so her legend lives on.

—From Kirkwall: The City of Chains, by Brother Genitivi, 9:24 Dragon


Also, look at how ****ing huge the Gallows is.

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Silfren wrote...

TEWR, what are you doing bringing sweet, gentle little Merrill into the Deep Roads anyway?  I thought you liked her!  Why are you trying to kill her?


:lol: 

Well, she is a blood mage which comes in handy against the Clownspawn. She's like the Killer Rabbit to her foes. :P

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The Ethereal Writer Redux wrote...

Silfren wrote...

TEWR, what are you doing bringing sweet, gentle little Merrill into the Deep Roads anyway?  I thought you liked her!  Why are you trying to kill her?


:lol: 

Well, she is a blood mage which comes in handy against the Clownspawn. She's like the Killer Rabbit to her foes. :P


Dude.  Left to her own devices she'd probably try to make friends with them, find out why they're so grumpy.

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Well for one, Meredith did approve it (Tranquil Solution). Just not officially.

Proof?


....Is it really this hard?


Lotion's the person who said that Sten's comment on how he's gone three or so weeks without food and is able to still fight fine per Sten's own words is just "gameplay" and not lore or indicative of a special element to Qunari physiology.

Legally the only way to Tranquil a mage is through the agreed consent of both the Knight Commander and First Enchanter, and it is strictly ILLEGAL to Tranquil a mage who has gone through their Harrowing.  

So if Alrik is Tranquiling mages left and right, he is either doing it with Meredith's blessing, legality be damned, or he's doing it without her consent, in which case she's blind as a bat, or noticing the sudden spike in numbers of Tranquiled mages and not caring.

Which means that yes, it appears that Meredith was officially refusing Alrik's request to Tranquil every mage in sight, while quietly letting him Tranquil anyone he damned well pleased, or just not giving a damn about mages that disappear from the Circle only to re-appear newly Tranquiled.


Yup, all of this. DAO establishes very firmly that it requires the First Enchanter's and Knight-Commander's signatures and seals to go through with the Rite of Tranquility, after which the Tranquil is added to the records.

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The Ethereal Writer Redux wrote...
She does resent the hypocrisy Marethari is engaging in, yes. But that is not why she approves of the deal.

I don't think Marethari's actions are hypocritical. Merrill will not die if the Eluvian goes unfixed, while repairing it may have untold consequences. Feynriel's life is in immediate danger, and not taking action could unleash a powerful abomination.

The two situations are clearly not the same.

Regardless, Merrill's attitude is extremely poor. If Marethari is a hypocrite, it's not Feynriel's fault, and calling him a 'half-breed' is not acceptabe at all.

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Silfren wrote...

Lotion Soronnar wrote...


Well for one, Meredith did approve it (Tranquil Solution). Just not officially.

Proof?


....Is it really this hard?

Legally the only way to Tranquil a mage is through the agreed consent of both the Knight Commander and First Enchanter, and it is strictly ILLEGAL to Tranquil a mage who has gone through their Harrowing. 

So if Alrik is Tranquiling mages left and right, he is either doing it with Meredith's blessing, legality be damned, or he's doing it without her consent, in which case she's blind as a bat, or noticing the sudden spike in numbers of Tranquiled mages and not caring.

Which means that yes, it appears that Meredith was officially refusing Alrik's request to Tranquil every mage in sight, while quietly letting him Tranquil anyone he damned well pleased, or just not giving a damn about mages that disappear from the Circle only to re-appear newly Tranquiled.



The Tranqual Solution and Alarik tranqulining a mage here and there are NOT the same.

I want proof, and not conjectures . I don't care about "it looks like X".

Try again.

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Yup, all of this. DAO establishes very firmly that it requires the First Enchanter's and Knight-Commander's signatures and seals to go through with the Rite of Tranquility, after which the Tranquil is added to the records.


Which would also mean Orsino approved of all of those tranqulisations.
Good going.

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Lotion Soronnar wrote...


Yup, all of this. DAO establishes very firmly that it requires the First Enchanter's and Knight-Commander's signatures and seals to go through with the Rite of Tranquility, after which the Tranquil is added to the records.


Which would also mean Orsino approved of all of those tranqulisations.
Good going.


Orsino wouldn't approve the time of day with Meredith, thus there is no way that Orsino approved all those tranquilisations.  You are just avoiding the obvious.   Ser Alrik was grossly abusing his position, and did so with Meredith's tacit approval.

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You have got to be the dumbest ****ing poster I've ever had the misfortune of encountering on these forums. Let me spell this out as clearly as I can for you, ****head.

Alrik is illegally Tranquiling Mages. He brought Meredith a proposal to mass Tranquilize them. She unofficially -- and try and make your tiny ass brain remember that word -- authorized them while officially she said no, so as to save face with the Chantry, Kirkwall, and prevent the Mages from full scale revolt.

An unofficial authorization saying "Do what you will" does not require the First Enchanter's approval, because it's going behind his ****ing back to Tranquil people without his authority or say-so on the matter. An unofficial authorization where she couldn't have failed to notice but ignored it is the same thing as "Do what you will".

Hell, even the DAII Collector's Edition guide notes that Orsino's position came with little power or authority on matters as FE of Kirkwall's Gallows.

And NOW I'm emotional, Hazegurl. Because Lotion is the most obtuse and idiotic poster in the history of the BSN, ignoring evidence in-game even when they have no doubt occurred, twisting facts to suit his arguments, and so forth. I'm surprised he hasn't hurt himself when he changes his shoes.

Here's a hint Lotion. Try rubbing your two brain cells together. You might get a spark that's useful.

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Legally the only way to Tranquil a mage is through the agreed consent of both the Knight Commander and First Enchanter, and it is strictly ILLEGAL to Tranquil a mage who has gone through their Harrowing.  

So if Alrik is Tranquiling mages left and right, he is either doing it with Meredith's blessing, legality be damned, or he's doing it without her consent, in which case she's blind as a bat, or noticing the sudden spike in numbers of Tranquiled mages and not caring.

Which means that yes, it appears that Meredith was officially refusing Alrik's request to Tranquil every mage in sight, while quietly letting him Tranquil anyone he damned well pleased, or just not giving a damn about mages that disappear from the Circle only to re-appear newly Tranquiled.


Ser Alrik is not legally making Mages Tranquil, as evidenced by Ella and the woman wandering the Gallows and the many others he's done this too so he could make them his sex slaves. 

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You have got to be the dumbest ****ing poster I've ever had the misfortune of encountering on these forums.


I assure you, I hold you in equally high regard.


Alrik is illegally Tranquiling Mages. He brought Meredith a proposal to mass Tranquilize them. She unofficially -- and try and make your tiny ass brain remember that word -- authorized them while officially she said no, so as to save face with the Chantry, Kirkwall, and prevent the Mages from full scale revolt.

An unofficial authorization saying "Do what you will" does not require the First Enchanter's approval, because it's going behind his ****ing back to Tranquil people without his authority or say-so on the matter. An unofficial authorization where she couldn't have failed to notice but ignored it is the same thing as "Do what you will".


Prove it.
I want solid, rock hard proof.

Proof that Orsino didn't know or couldn't do anything. Proof that Elthina didn't know.

If Orsinos signature is there, then it is legal.


And NOW I'm emotional, Hazegurl. Because Lotion is the most obtuse and idiotic poster in the history of the BSN, ignoring evidence in-game even when they have no doubt occurred, twisting facts to suit his arguments, and so forth. I'm surprised he hasn't hurt himself when he changes his shoes.

Here's a hint Lotion. Try rubbing your two brain cells together. You might get a spark that's useful.


My, my.... somebody is getting all steamed up because people don't follow in line with their theories.

Don't get me wrong - your impotent rage is highly amusing - but take care lest it gets you banned.
That tirade of insults wouldn't look good on your record if I were to hit the "report" bottun.
But I'm in no hurry to do that yet.

Calm down, take deep breaths. Find your happy place.

Legally the only way to Tranquil a mage is through the agreed consent of both the Knight Commander and First Enchanter, and it is strictly ILLEGAL to Tranquil a mage who has gone through their Harrowing.


No.

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Orsino wouldn't approve the time of day with Meredith, thus there is no way that Orsino approved all those tranquilisations.  You are just avoiding the obvious.   Ser Alrik was grossly abusing his position, and did so with Meredith's tacit approval.


I don't care what you think Orsino would or wouldn't do (especially if coerced or tricked).
Only what you can prove.

Remember, we are talking specificly about Meredith supporting the Tranquil Solution.
Which you did not prove...since Meredith turning a blind eye to Alaric tranquiling a mage here and there and it are not one and the same thing.

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Lotion Soronnar wrote...

IanPolaris wrote...

Orsino wouldn't approve the time of day with Meredith, thus there is no way that Orsino approved all those tranquilisations.  You are just avoiding the obvious.   Ser Alrik was grossly abusing his position, and did so with Meredith's tacit approval.


I don't care what you think Orsino would or wouldn't do (especially if coerced or tricked).
Only what you can prove.

Remember, we are talking specificly about Meredith supporting the Tranquil Solution.
Which you did not prove...since Meredith turning a blind eye to Alaric tranquiling a mage here and there and it are not one and the same thing.


Stop shifting goalposts.  The question was whether Meredith supported Ser Alrik's illegal tranquilizations.  That answer by the own game lore is distressingly clear:  She does.  She does by not acting against it when she has to know, and yes officers in any military in the world ARE accountable for the actions of their immediate subordinates.

Not only that but her executive officer, Knight-Captain Cullen sounds more than sympathetic to Alrik's idea to say the least.

This would be more than enough to have Meredith removed as "unfit to wear the uniform" as an officer in most armies that I am familiar with.

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Lotion Soronnar wrote...

Silfren wrote...

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Well for one, Meredith did approve it (Tranquil Solution). Just not officially.

Proof?


....Is it really this hard?

Legally the only way to Tranquil a mage is through the agreed consent of both the Knight Commander and First Enchanter, and it is strictly ILLEGAL to Tranquil a mage who has gone through their Harrowing. 

So if Alrik is Tranquiling mages left and right, he is either doing it with Meredith's blessing, legality be damned, or he's doing it without her consent, in which case she's blind as a bat, or noticing the sudden spike in numbers of Tranquiled mages and not caring.

Which means that yes, it appears that Meredith was officially refusing Alrik's request to Tranquil every mage in sight, while quietly letting him Tranquil anyone he damned well pleased, or just not giving a damn about mages that disappear from the Circle only to re-appear newly Tranquiled.



The Tranqual Solution and Alarik tranqulining a mage here and there are NOT the same.

I want proof, and not conjectures . I don't care about "it looks like X".

Try again.


Whereas I deal in practicalities.  Alrik wanted to Tranquil every mage in the Free Marches.  He was refused.  Nevertheless he went around Tranquiling any mage he wanted to, with no apparent questions being asked from Meredith.  Ergo, same difference.  Left to his devices, he was de facto carrying out his plan, just not with the same legal authority he had hoped for.

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Whereas I deal in practicalities.  Alrik wanted to Tranquil every mage in the Free Marches.  He was refused.  Nevertheless he went around Tranquiling any mage he wanted to, with no apparent questions being asked from Meredith.  Ergo, same difference.  Left to his devices, he was de facto carrying out his plan, just not with the same legal authority he had hoped for.


Indeed, and the Modern US Military (this I know for a fact) recognizes this.  If an officer allows a direct subordinate to do something illegal, and it can be shown that the officer either had to know or should have known (i.e. looked the other way), that officer can be courtmartialed as though that officer ALSO committed the crimes of his or her subordinate.

This fits Meredith to a tee.

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Prove it.
I want solid, rock hard proof.

Proof that Orsino didn't know or couldn't do anything. Proof that Elthina didn't know.

If Orsinos signature is there, then it is legal.


Insults aside, you are definitely being obtuse here.  It IS a lore-based fact that Tranquiling a mage who has passed their Harrowing is illegal.  No amount of "No" on your part will alter this.  Same for the fact that LEGAL Tranquilization requires the written agreement of the Knight Commander and First Enchanter.  That says nothing at all about the illegal crap that Meredith allows her Templars to get up to in Kirkwall. 

Everything about Alrik's actions screams that he was doing it without official sanction.  We don't exactly break into the Circle and interrupt an official ceremony, after all.  Moreover, the things that Alrik is saying to Ella when he's about to Tranquil her, I don't think the official ceremony, whatever it looks like, is done with only Templars around who verbalize highly suggestive threats about what they'll do to the new Tranquil.  Given this, and that we know mages who have passed their Harrowing are suddenly being made  Tranquil in high numbers, all taken together it's a leeeetle too suspicious to pretend that all this was being done with official sanction. 

So Meredith is either blind, and therefore as incompetent as Elthina wants us to think she is, or she's turning a blind eye to the proceedings.  I suspect the latter, because Meredith is much too fanatical to not pay attention to mages.  Which means she's either literally unconcerned with whether mages get made Tranquil without her knowledge or consent, or she knows all about it and has given herself plausible deniability.

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Stop shifting goalposts. 


You are the one doing it.

The question was whether Meredith supported Ser Alrik's illegal tranquilizations.


The quesiton was wether she supported the Tranquil Solution. Which you poeple know very well. And know you can't prove. So you shoft the goalpost to alarik.

It's not the same thing.
Tranqulling all mages is not the same as tranquilng some.
Period.

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Insults aside, you are definitely being obtuse here.  It IS a lore-based fact that Tranquiling a mage who has passed their Harrowing is illegal.  No amount of "No" on your part will alter this.  


Unless special circumstances happen...like use of Blood Magic or the like.

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Lotion Soronnar wrote...

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Stop shifting goalposts. 


You are the one doing it.

The question was whether Meredith supported Ser Alrik's illegal tranquilizations.


The quesiton was wether she supported the Tranquil Solution. Which you poeple know very well. And know you can't prove. So you shoft the goalpost to alarik.

It's not the same thing.
Tranqulling all mages is not the same as tranquilng some.
Period.


You're just going out of your way to misunderstand, at this point.  The question was whether Meredith supported Ser Alrik's wish to carry out his Tranquil Solution, and the assertion was that she WAS supporting it, unofficially, because even though she OFFICIALLY rejected his plan, she was by all appearances ignoring the fact that he was illegally making mages Tranquil of his own accord. 

There's a reason why people arrive at this conclusion:

We know for a fact that Meredith watches mages fanatically.  From there, it is reasonable to conclude that she cannot be unaware of mages being made Tranquil in unusually high numbers.

We also know that Alrik was Tranquiling mages in secret.  Since we know that he had a document indicating that Meredith had gone on record as refusing his ultimate plan to Tranquil every mage in the Free Marches territory, it's safe to assume he was doing it this way because he lacked the legal sanction to do it within the Circle itself.  Whether there was an actual conspiracy between Alrik and Meredith for him to do it this way, and Meredith gave him her blessing where no one else could hear, while publically refusing him, OR simply that Meredith didn't give a damn what Alrik did on his own time, that's the only real question.  Personally I suspect that Meredith wanted Alrik to Tranquil mages with abandon, but wanted some kind of tangible evidence, should he be caught, that he was very much not doing it with her permission.  She certainly does seem like the type to happily throw an underling under the bus if it serves her purpose.  Not unlike Elthina...

So what we have are mages who are being made Tranquil in unusually high numbers, under the watchful eyes of an ultra-paranoid Knight Commander.  The only thing left to conclude is that she want to officially refuse to endorse Alrik's Solution, but didn't actually CARE if he Tranquiled mages unlawfully or without any justification, so she turned a blind eye.