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[Dr_Extrem]

McFlurry598 wrote...

Dr_Extrem 

don't make us smaller, than we were.

We wanted an uplifting ending, that makes sense. A simple reunion and a clear survival is too "Disney" for you? Thats a shame, because it is not. Nobody asked for Ingame-kids - only the clear outview, that kids are possible, within the borders of our fiction. That's a big difference.

Ive seen plenty of people want a 'Disney' ending. All I'm saying is. No one should have bought ME3 expecting a happy Disney ending.

I think you misunderstood most of them. People do have a lot of imagination but it needs to be stimulated in the right way.

[McFlurry598]

Mdoggy1214 wrote...

McFlurry598 wrote...

The whole "Disney" ending thing, is an unfair exaggeration that attempts to make people who want a happier more fulfulling ending look immature. It's bull****. Did I except a super happy ending? No i didn't. But Bioware did tell us for 5 years that our choices throughout the trilogy would effect the ending, and a lot of other things they said, didn't help either. 
In fact i remember one person tweeted Casey if they'd be able to marry one of the LIs, and his exact response was...
"We got you covered."
I wish i could find the tweet, but it was a year ago. But yes, there were a lot of lies behind the development of this game. I played through the entire trilogy doing 100% completion playthroughs, making all the good decisions, just because i wanted to get that hard to get Perfect ending, where the good guys win, Shepard lives, and the Normandy turns second star to the right, straight on till morn

Do you picked destroy? Sounds like most people that have a problem with the ending picked destroy. Just because shepard lives. SURE you perform a galactic genocide of all synthetics(geth, EDI, etc) dont forget the fact that if you pick destroy, Legions sacrifice for the geth was in vein. Destroy also makes the Quarians ware with the geth pointless.

[Aaleel]

I didn't even want a 'Disney Ending' whatever that is. But I did want an ending where I felt like I actually accomplished something even if I died in the process.

Being defeated by and then saved by the enemy and allowed to win the fight I think is the one part of the ending Bioware can never fix for me.no matter what kind of DLC they release. I'm still at a loss to understand how anyone thought that would be a good way to end the trilogy.

Modifié par Aaleel, 24 février 2013 - 08:54 .

[Maxster_]

Just the ending?
ME3 was horrible written, from start to finish, with a one exception. So no, i don't trust them.
And of course, i will not buy anything from them ever, after seeing their degradation(DA2, SWTOR, ME3) as a company.

[SyK18]

Not at all. You can thank the blindly following fans and dlc. They can do whatever they please now. They have them by the wallets.

[Hexley UK]

McFlurry598 wrote...

Mdoggy1214 wrote...

McFlurry598 wrote...

The whole "Disney" ending thing, is an unfair exaggeration that attempts to make people who want a happier more fulfulling ending look immature. It's bull****. Did I except a super happy ending? No i didn't. But Bioware did tell us for 5 years that our choices throughout the trilogy would effect the ending, and a lot of other things they said, didn't help either. 
In fact i remember one person tweeted Casey if they'd be able to marry one of the LIs, and his exact response was...
"We got you covered."
I wish i could find the tweet, but it was a year ago. But yes, there were a lot of lies behind the development of this game. I played through the entire trilogy doing 100% completion playthroughs, making all the good decisions, just because i wanted to get that hard to get Perfect ending, where the good guys win, Shepard lives, and the Normandy turns second star to the right, straight on till morn

Do you picked destroy? Sounds like most people that have a problem with the ending picked destroy. Just because shepard lives. SURE you perform a galactic genocide of all synthetics(geth, EDI, etc) dont forget the fact that if you pick destroy, Legions sacrifice for the geth was in vein. Destroy also makes the Quarians ware with the geth pointless.

Same for Synthesis and Control.

Synthesis = everyone the same so the conflict was pointless.

Control = They couldn't fight if they wanted now that you control the Reapers and could squash them both like bugs.

Your point is irrelevant.

Modifié par Hexley UK, 24 février 2013 - 08:53 .

[Maxster_]

McFlurry598 wrote...

Mdoggy1214 wrote...

McFlurry598 wrote...

The whole "Disney" ending thing, is an unfair exaggeration that attempts to make people who want a happier more fulfulling ending look immature. It's bull****. Did I except a super happy ending? No i didn't. But Bioware did tell us for 5 years that our choices throughout the trilogy would effect the ending, and a lot of other things they said, didn't help either. 
In fact i remember one person tweeted Casey if they'd be able to marry one of the LIs, and his exact response was...
"We got you covered."
I wish i could find the tweet, but it was a year ago. But yes, there were a lot of lies behind the development of this game. I played through the entire trilogy doing 100% completion playthroughs, making all the good decisions, just because i wanted to get that hard to get Perfect ending, where the good guys win, Shepard lives, and the Normandy turns second star to the right, straight on till morn

Do you picked destroy? Sounds like most people that have a problem with the ending picked destroy. Just because shepard lives. SURE you perform a galactic genocide of all synthetics(geth, EDI, etc) dont forget the fact that if you pick destroy, Legions sacrifice for the geth was in vein. Destroy also makes the Quarians ware with the geth pointless.

Sure. Great choice between Genocide, Mass Mutilation & Brainwashing, and Benevolent Dictatorship.
Enjoy.

And all of them makes geth-quarian story pointless.

Modifié par Maxster_, 24 février 2013 - 08:55 .

[Hexley UK]

Maxster_ wrote...

McFlurry598 wrote...

Mdoggy1214 wrote...

McFlurry598 wrote...

The whole "Disney" ending thing, is an unfair exaggeration that attempts to make people who want a happier more fulfulling ending look immature. It's bull****. Did I except a super happy ending? No i didn't. But Bioware did tell us for 5 years that our choices throughout the trilogy would effect the ending, and a lot of other things they said, didn't help either. 
In fact i remember one person tweeted Casey if they'd be able to marry one of the LIs, and his exact response was...
"We got you covered."
I wish i could find the tweet, but it was a year ago. But yes, there were a lot of lies behind the development of this game. I played through the entire trilogy doing 100% completion playthroughs, making all the good decisions, just because i wanted to get that hard to get Perfect ending, where the good guys win, Shepard lives, and the Normandy turns second star to the right, straight on till morn

Do you picked destroy? Sounds like most people that have a problem with the ending picked destroy. Just because shepard lives. SURE you perform a galactic genocide of all synthetics(geth, EDI, etc) dont forget the fact that if you pick destroy, Legions sacrifice for the geth was in vein. Destroy also makes the Quarians ware with the geth pointless.

Sure. Great choice between Genocide, Mass Mutilation & Brainwashing, and Benevolent Dictatorship.
Enjoy.

My next Shepard shall be named Saddam Shepard.

[Seboist]

I don't even trust BW to start a story properly after ME2 and 3.

[McFlurry598]

Hexley UK wrote...

McFlurry598 wrote...

Hexley UK 


Might be a good idea to satisfy more than 5% of your audience though.

I actually started a thread for ending lovers. It had around 11 pages. I'd consider that more than 5%. Don't forget the people who like the ending, but don't even bother to go on BSN forums

11 pages??!?
Dude there are hundreds of pages and tens of thousands of posts hating on the ending....don't kid yourself.
Of course you know this just as you know nobody asked for the "disney" ending you keep ranting about.

The fact you said "They should try to satisfy more than 5% of the audience" isn't even based on statistics. An I'm pretty sure there are tens of thousands of people who love the ending compared to people who hate it. I'd say the numbers are just about even.

[Maxster_]

SyK18 wrote...

Not at all. You can thank the blindly following fans and dlc. They can do whatever they please now. They have them by the wallets.

Does it matters? They may produce any amount of crap, im not going to eat that.
Bioware died a long time ago.

[Dr_Extrem]

McFlurry598 wrote...

Mdoggy1214 wrote...

McFlurry598 wrote...

The whole "Disney" ending thing, is an unfair exaggeration that attempts to make people who want a happier more fulfulling ending look immature. It's bull****. Did I except a super happy ending? No i didn't. But Bioware did tell us for 5 years that our choices throughout the trilogy would effect the ending, and a lot of other things they said, didn't help either. 
In fact i remember one person tweeted Casey if they'd be able to marry one of the LIs, and his exact response was...
"We got you covered."
I wish i could find the tweet, but it was a year ago. But yes, there were a lot of lies behind the development of this game. I played through the entire trilogy doing 100% completion playthroughs, making all the good decisions, just because i wanted to get that hard to get Perfect ending, where the good guys win, Shepard lives, and the Normandy turns second star to the right, straight on till morn

Do you picked destroy? Sounds like most people that have a problem with the ending picked destroy. Just because shepard lives. SURE you perform a galactic genocide of all synthetics(geth, EDI, etc) dont forget the fact that if you pick destroy, Legions sacrifice for the geth was in vein. Destroy also makes the Quarians ware with the geth pointless.

Oh noez ... he picked the "genocide"-card.

That's really cheap. My problem with the endings go far beyond the choices. Its the starchild, the forced genocide (cause drama), the ultra cheap reasons and the forced suicide (including the vague interpretations).

[bleetman]

I believe they, as a company, still have the capacity to put out pretty great things. They have some amazing writers under them, both in the ME team and elsewhere.

This is not the same as trusting them to, however. I certainly won't be repeating the mistake of buying their games on launch before I've heard any feedback first.

Modifié par bleetman, 24 février 2013 - 09:01 .

[jkflipflopDAO]

 I have all the Mass Effect books, comics, DLC, appearance packs, hoodies, ballcaps, and just about everything else with an N7 logo on it. I've played through the games countless times and found all of the secrets and easter eggs and dialog options. As the creator of artwork like this, that is your objective, right? To completely pull the user into your universe and suspend their disbelief? Well they certainly had me. To say I've been a "fan" of this story and universe is quite an understatement.

However, that all changed in the last 30 minutes of ME3. Priority Earth - the amazing final mission to the epic series - just feels so sterile and souless. The Starchild's existence on the citadel breaks all lore of the previous games. 

We've had a year to fix this. A third of the time it took you to create the game in total and we still have this abomination of storytelling on the end of your flagship series. It deserves so much better than this. I'm gonna go get drunk now.

[Maxster_]

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Modifié par Ninja Stan, 25 février 2013 - 03:49 .

[Hexley UK]

McFlurry598 wrote...

Hexley UK wrote...

McFlurry598 wrote...

Hexley UK 


Might be a good idea to satisfy more than 5% of your audience though.

I actually started a thread for ending lovers. It had around 11 pages. I'd consider that more than 5%. Don't forget the people who like the ending, but don't even bother to go on BSN forums

11 pages??!?
Dude there are hundreds of pages and tens of thousands of posts hating on the ending....don't kid yourself.
Of course you know this just as you know nobody asked for the "disney" ending you keep ranting about.

The fact you said "They should try to satisfy more than 5% of the audience" isn't even based on statistics. An I'm pretty sure there are tens of thousands of people who love the ending compared to people who hate it. I'd say the numbers are just about even.

And you'd be very very wrong, please provide evidence as to your claim...I can provide many examples of universal dislike.

Heres 2 credible sources for my stance....lets see 1....just 1 from you.

social.bioware.com/633606/polls/28989/

social.bioware.com/526111/polls/31441/

Bare in mind that research has shown for every one person who complains 26 feel the same but do not bother to vocalise it.

[Nerevar-as]

Hexley UK wrote...

McFlurry598 wrote...

Hexley UK wrote...

McFlurry598 wrote...

Hexley UK 


Might be a good idea to satisfy more than 5% of your audience though.

I actually started a thread for ending lovers. It had around 11 pages. I'd consider that more than 5%. Don't forget the people who like the ending, but don't even bother to go on BSN forums

11 pages??!?
Dude there are hundreds of pages and tens of thousands of posts hating on the ending....don't kid yourself.
Of course you know this just as you know nobody asked for the "disney" ending you keep ranting about.

The fact you said "They should try to satisfy more than 5% of the audience" isn't even based on statistics. An I'm pretty sure there are tens of thousands of people who love the ending compared to people who hate it. I'd say the numbers are just about even.

And you'd be very very wrong, please provide evidence as to your claim...I can provide many examples of universal dislike.

Heres 2 credible sources for my stance....lets see 1....just 1 from you.

social.bioware.com/633606/polls/28989/

social.bioware.com/526111/polls/31441/

Bare in mind that research has shown for every one person who complains 26 feel the same but do not bother to vocalise it.

Don´t bother. S/he is one of a handful who won´t change opinion even with a poll that included everybody who played the game.

That said, no idea if your polls are a representative sample of the playerbase. Nor how one can be done. Devs claim numbers are on their side, but they claimed a lot of POV things in the past.

Modifié par Nerevar-as, 24 février 2013 - 09:08 .

[McFlurry598]

Hexley UK wrote...

Heres 2 credible sources for my stance....lets see 1....just 1 from you.

social.bioware.com/633606/polls/28989/

social.bioware.com/526111/polls/31441/

Gtfo with your 'stance' ****. Might I add these polls are most likely post EC
I hope you feel special, taking the time to look those up. Good for you

[Hexley UK]

McFlurry598 wrote...

Hexley UK wrote...

Heres 2 credible sources for my stance....lets see 1....just 1 from you.

social.bioware.com/633606/polls/28989/

social.bioware.com/526111/polls/31441/

Gtfo with your 'stance' ****. Might I add these polls are most likely post EC
I hope you feel special, taking the time to look those up. Good for you

[Nerevar-as]

McFlurry598 wrote...

Hexley UK wrote...

Heres 2 credible sources for my stance....lets see 1....just 1 from you.

social.bioware.com/633606/polls/28989/

social.bioware.com/526111/polls/31441/

Gtfo with your 'stance' ****. Might I add these polls are most likely post EC
I hope you feel special, taking the time to look those up. Good for you

You like the ending. We don´t. We want something coherent. We won´t get it.

So WTF are you so angry about?

[Mathias]

McFlurry598 wrote...

Mdoggy1214 wrote...

McFlurry598 wrote...

The whole "Disney" ending thing, is an unfair exaggeration that attempts to make people who want a happier more fulfulling ending look immature. It's bull****. Did I except a super happy ending? No i didn't. But Bioware did tell us for 5 years that our choices throughout the trilogy would effect the ending, and a lot of other things they said, didn't help either. 
In fact i remember one person tweeted Casey if they'd be able to marry one of the LIs, and his exact response was...
"We got you covered."
I wish i could find the tweet, but it was a year ago. But yes, there were a lot of lies behind the development of this game. I played through the entire trilogy doing 100% completion playthroughs, making all the good decisions, just because i wanted to get that hard to get Perfect ending, where the good guys win, Shepard lives, and the Normandy turns second star to the right, straight on till morn

Do you picked destroy? Sounds like most people that have a problem with the ending picked destroy. Just because shepard lives. SURE you perform a galactic genocide of all synthetics(geth, EDI, etc) dont forget the fact that if you pick destroy, Legions sacrifice for the geth was in vein. Destroy also makes the Quarians ware with the geth pointless.

I picked Destroy for a number of reasons:

1. It felt like the safest of choices to make.
2. It was the only one that defeats the Reapers and The Catalyst.
3. It allows organics to forge their own future, and let whatever evolution that lies ahead progress naturally.
4. It's the only one where Shepard lives.

With that said though, yes it sucks Edi and The Geth are destroyed to. But that's our punishement for not buying into Bioware's bull**** with Synthesis. However i don't believe Legion's sacrifice was in vein. Because the Geth did fight with Organics against the oppression of The Catalyst, and were obviously a big help. So yeah their new lives were short lived, but at least in their last days, they lived as a free people, fighting against something they're not. Which is a bunch of killer Synthetics. And I really liked that, to me it was poetry. Even though i'm 100% certain that was not Bioware's intention.

[Aaleel]

Hexley UK wrote...

McFlurry598 wrote...

Hexley UK wrote...

McFlurry598 wrote...

Hexley UK 


Might be a good idea to satisfy more than 5% of your audience though.

I actually started a thread for ending lovers. It had around 11 pages. I'd consider that more than 5%. Don't forget the people who like the ending, but don't even bother to go on BSN forums

11 pages??!?
Dude there are hundreds of pages and tens of thousands of posts hating on the ending....don't kid yourself.
Of course you know this just as you know nobody asked for the "disney" ending you keep ranting about.

The fact you said "They should try to satisfy more than 5% of the audience" isn't even based on statistics. An I'm pretty sure there are tens of thousands of people who love the ending compared to people who hate it. I'd say the numbers are just about even.

And you'd be very very wrong, please provide evidence as to your claim...I can provide many examples of universal dislike.

Heres 2 credible sources for my stance....lets see 1....just 1 from you.

social.bioware.com/633606/polls/28989/

social.bioware.com/526111/polls/31441/

Bare in mind that research has shown for every one person who complains 26 feel the same but do not bother to vocalise it.

Wow, I think that's by far the most votes I've seen on a poll here, over 70K

[Hexley UK]

McFlurry598 wrote...

Hexley UK wrote...

Heres 2 credible sources for my stance....lets see 1....just 1 from you.

social.bioware.com/633606/polls/28989/

social.bioware.com/526111/polls/31441/

Gtfo with your 'stance' ****. Might I add these polls are most likely post EC
I hope you feel special, taking the time to look those up. Good for you

Still waiting for all the evidence of how much everyone loves it by the way....take your time.

[McFlurry598]

Modifié par McFlurry598, 24 février 2013 - 09:13 .