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[Xamufam]

I accept Control but cant accept the starbrat or synthesis because one is a contrivance (Point of me1) the otherone is nonsens

Have also problem with the crucible deus x machina from nowhere if they had introduced it in me2 it would have been more acceptabel

[Hadeedak]

grey_wind wrote...

Argolas wrote...

No OP, the hardcore ending haters are refusers.

Anyway, have fun with the resistance.

Agreed.

Plus Refuse is the only ending that guarantees Hackett's death. His genes must not be allowed to survive.

"Shepard! Everything's burning! All hope's extinguished!"

"Just.... tell me .... before I die.... Did they finally kill .... Admiral... Hackett?" 

[SyK18]

Play or watch Leviathan and you will figure why Control is not gonna work out for the long run. Or hell play all the ME games again and pay real close attention to the Geth, the Protheans, The Leviathan, the Reapers. For you Control seems to work out because it is all butterflies and unicorns. Shepard lives and watches over all of the ME galaxy. Sacrifices were required throughout the whole game. From Legion, to Mordin to Anderson to Thane to Shepard. That's why I chose Destroy. All synthetic life was sacrificed so that the new civilizations can flourish and not possibly perish at the hands of Reapers, whom at the moment at are considered "protectors". I had no clue Shepard was possibly alive.

[Nerevar-as]

McFlurry598 wrote...

Hexley UK wrote...

McFlurry598 wrote...

 I've really noticed that, for people who picked destroy, they hate the ending far more worse than those who picked control or synthesis. I picked control and I LOVED the ending, I tried destroy with high enough EMS that shepard lives, the fact that you destroy all synthetic life in the galaxy seems pointless. Control was ten only logical choice for me. You Enslave the galaxy as a paragon and help rebuild. Thoughts?

Fixed that up for you.

I don't remember anything about shepard saying he enslaves the galaxy? Maybe you should replay the control ending. You obviously have no idea what you're talking about.

You are a sword of Damocles over the whole galaxy. So no matter how noble your intentions, you are Big Brother/Sister watching over them, and I doubt a week passed before the leadership started looking for a way to take you down. It´s just the way we are.

Also pray Control is not the canon for notME4 as then there´s little doubt you went nuts and must be stopped.

[teh DRUMPf!!]

McFlurry598 wrote...

 I've really noticed that, for people who picked destroy, they hate the ending far more worse than those who picked control or synthesis. I picked control and I LOVED the ending, I tried destroy with high enough EMS that shepard lives, the fact that you destroy all synthetic life in the galaxy seems pointless. Control was the only logical choice for me. You defend the galaxy as a paragon and help rebuild. As well as shepards thoughts still remaining within the reapers. Thoughts?

This poll may be of interest to you: http://social.biowar.../index/14939678.

[Xamufam]

Dr_Extrem wrote...

Ironhandjustice wrote...

Dr_Extrem wrote...

reapers are still around - the war is not over.

becoming the enemy is not my paragon-shepards way.

I chosed mehem

we did indeed.

[chemiclord]

Just like with any other choice, it boils down to what each individual player thought was the lesser of three evils. It doesn't particularly make any other statement about general feeling about the endings provided.

[Warlock Adam]

SyK18 wrote...

Play or watch Leviathan and you will figure why Control is not gonna work out for the long run. Or hell play all the ME games again and pay real close attention to the Geth, the Protheans, The Leviathan, the Reapers. For you Control seems to work out because it is all butterflies and unicorns. Shepard lives and watches over all of the ME galaxy. Sacrifices were required throughout the whole game. From Legion, to Mordin to Anderson to Thane to Shepard. That's why I chose Destroy. All synthetic life was sacrificed so that the new civilizations can flourish and not possibly perish at the hands of Reapers, whom at the moment at are considered "protectors". I had no clue Shepard was possibly alive.

Wait...how does Leviathan mean Control won't work out?

Shepard's controlling an army of Reapers willing to defend the galaxy to the death. Versus three Leviathans, whose technology is in the hands of the allied races. I'm fine with those odds.

If anything Destroy works out best for the Leviathans--the Reapers are all dead and the Leviathans have a chance to resurge.

[McFlurry598]

Hexley UK wrote...

You bend the Reapers to your will...thereby enslaving them, you now have the power to control the entire galaxy at will and nobody can argue with you, they all have to do what you say or pay the consequences.

In other words slavery.

Directly by you enslaving the Reapers and everyone else by proxy.

Maybe you should replay the Control ending.....

Shepard says he will help rebuild that the many have lost. He says he will defend the entire galaxy. He helps rebuild the mass relays. I don't know where you came up with him enslaving the galaxy. That wasn't even thought, better yet mentioned, in the ending 

[Meltemph]

the fact that you destroy all synthetic life

Huh? The child does not state all synthetics will be destroyed, it says "others" will be destroyed as well, others will be destroyed as well, the crucible will not discriminate. All synthetics will be targeted, even you are partially synthetic", and then goes on to say all technology will be effected. If you are going to take the leap of "all synthetics are destroyed" then by the same token you have to take the last part of that whole line to its conclusion as well, and well, I dont think anyone thinks all technology is destroyed.

The only synthetics we know or have a good idea of who is destroyed is EDI and the Geth, which makes sense since they are based on reaper code by the end of t he game.

[NRieh]

I chose...
HEADCANON.
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| I WIN! |
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[Hexley UK]

McFlurry598 wrote...

Hexley UK wrote...

You bend the Reapers to your will...thereby enslaving them, you now have the power to control the entire galaxy at will and nobody can argue with you, they all have to do what you say or pay the consequences.

In other words slavery.

Directly by you enslaving the Reapers and everyone else by proxy.

Maybe you should replay the Control ending.....

Shepard says he will help rebuild that the many have lost. He says he will defend the entire galaxy. He helps rebuild the mass relays. I don't know where you came up with him enslaving the galaxy. That wasn't even thought, better yet mentioned, in the ending 

Benevolent or not they still have to do what he says.

[McFlurry598]

SyK18 wrote...

Play or watch Leviathan and you will figure why Control is not gonna work out for the long run. Or hell play all the ME games again and pay real close attention to the Geth, the Protheans, The Leviathan, the Reapers. For you Control seems to work out because it is all butterflies and unicorns. Shepard lives and watches over all of the ME galaxy. Sacrifices were required throughout the whole game. From Legion, to Mordin to Anderson to Thane to Shepard. That's why I chose Destroy. All synthetic life was sacrificed so that the new civilizations can flourish and not possibly perish at the hands of Reapers, whom at the moment at are considered "protectors". I had no clue Shepard was possibly alive.

Ive bought and played all DCL through the ME games. This is my opninion, I have no problem with you not agreeing with it. I respect you decision as well

[Warlock Adam]

McFlurry598 wrote...

Hexley UK wrote...

You bend the Reapers to your will...thereby enslaving them, you now have the power to control the entire galaxy at will and nobody can argue with you, they all have to do what you say or pay the consequences.

In other words slavery.

Directly by you enslaving the Reapers and everyone else by proxy.

Maybe you should replay the Control ending.....

Shepard says he will help rebuild that the many have lost. He says he will defend the entire galaxy. He helps rebuild the mass relays. I don't know where you came up with him enslaving the galaxy. That wasn't even thought, better yet mentioned, in the ending 

This times 1000. The only way Shepard expresses a desire to bend the galaxy to his will is if he's Renegade.

Everyone compares Control-Shepard to the Catalyst, saying "he'll go crazy." And everyone forgets that the Catalyst's logic was flawed from the very beginning. Whereas Shepard's is fully dependent on how you played him--if you were nice he'll be nice, if you were domineering he'll be domineering. The Catalyst didn't change his logic after millions of years, and I sincerely doubt Shepard will change his.

Modifié par Warlock Adam, 24 février 2013 - 09:59 .

[Jonathan Sud]

Nope, I'm quite satisfied with my high EMS Destroy ending. Can't say I like the Shepard breath bit, since it just seems ridiculous that he'd even have the slightest chance of living after being blown up, but then again...ME2 has proved me otherwise. Still think it was unnessecery though.

[DeinonSlayer]

ruggly wrote...

I should also add that there are plenty of people who choose destroy that are fine with the ending

*raises hand*

[McFlurry598]

Hexley UK wrote...


Benevolent or not they still have to do what he says.

Starbrat says no one knows shepard will be controlling the reapers. As well as, shepard not being able to communicate with the outside world. Again, disbanding your argument 

[Hadeedak]

Honestly, you'll find plenty of destroyers who're happy with things, and some mad controllers. It's people. We vary.

My ReaperShep will be abstracted from the galaxy, primarily studying and documenting races, and stepping in only to stop complete extinction of sentient civilizations at the hands of other sentient civilizations. Until proven otherwise, that's her MO. Time will pass, entropy will continue, all will fall and change inevitably. Evolution will march on, and everything that was will fade inexorably into something different. But the memory of that which was will remain, suspended in the Reapers. And the Catalyst will now call itself the Archive.

That's my headcanon, and in lieu of new data, I'm sticking to it.

[Uncle Jo]

Warlock Adam wrote...

SyK18 wrote...

Play or watch Leviathan and you will figure why Control is not gonna work out for the long run. Or hell play all the ME games again and pay real close attention to the Geth, the Protheans, The Leviathan, the Reapers. For you Control seems to work out because it is all butterflies and unicorns. Shepard lives and watches over all of the ME galaxy. Sacrifices were required throughout the whole game. From Legion, to Mordin to Anderson to Thane to Shepard. That's why I chose Destroy. All synthetic life was sacrificed so that the new civilizations can flourish and not possibly perish at the hands of Reapers, whom at the moment at are considered "protectors". I had no clue Shepard was possibly alive.

Wait...how does Leviathan mean Control won't work out?

Shepard's controlling an army of Reapers willing to defend the galaxy to the death. Versus three Leviathans, whose technology is in the hands of the allied races. I'm fine with those odds.

If anything Destroy works out best for the Leviathans--the Reapers are all dead and the Leviathans have a chance to resurge.

Leviathans/Bratalyst. They created and controlled him and then he turned against them.

The Reapers are not willing to defend the galaxy to the death, since the brat brillantly explained to us that they're mindless robots. They just do anything Shep command them to. If Reapard wakes up bad mooded someday and decides to wipe out the salarians for the lols, be sure that Sur'Kesh will be burnt to the ground by the new friends of the galaxy.

Modifié par Uncle Jo, 24 février 2013 - 10:05 .

[Mcfly616]

This same exact post was made in another thread (word for word)


Is this some growing trend where people think that they posted something truly thoughtful and figure it deserves its own thread, therefore we copy and paste it, being quite monotonous and spamming the forum?


Hold on....I'll be right back with my response to this OP. Just have to dig it out of the same thread you got it from....

[Hexley UK]

McFlurry598 wrote...

Hexley UK wrote...


Benevolent or not they still have to do what he says.

Starbrat says no one knows shepard will be controlling the reapers. As well as, shepard not being able to communicate with the outside world. Again, disbanding your argument 

He totally controls the Reapers...he could just talk through them.....Reapers do talk you know......

And i'm not sure what point your making, you think that if he couldn't talk to them directly that they wouldn't do what he says or suffer the consequences?

[AlexMBrennan]

I don't know where you came up with him enslaving the galaxy. That wasn't even thought, better yet mentioned, in the ending

Right, it has to be true because the slaver denied being a slaver. Reapers are sentient beings, and taking away their freedom forever is not sunshine and rainbows.

What's more, the epilogue is irrelevant to the question at hand - whether Shepard could reasonably pick Control - because Shepard doesn't know about the epilogue.

[noobcannon]

McFlurry598 wrote...

 I've really noticed that, for people who picked destroy, they hate the ending far more worse than those who picked control or synthesis. I picked control and I LOVED the ending, I tried destroy with high enough EMS that shepard lives, the fact that you destroy all synthetic life in the galaxy seems pointless. Control was the only logical choice for me. You defend the galaxy as a paragon and help rebuild. As well as shepards thoughts still remaining within the reapers. Thoughts?

edit:Added one more opinion

correction, someone tells you all synthetic life will die and you see edi's name on a wall. until there is some type of context in-game that actually makes any sense of how this is even plausible, i will not make a decision influenced by it.

also, destroyers tend to analyze the first 99% of the trilogy and use in-game dialouge and evidence to make their choice. controllers and synthesizers use the last 1% of the game and out-of-game ideas, theories, and information to analyze and make their choice.

[ruggly]

Hadeedak wrote...

Honestly, you'll find plenty of destroyers who're happy with things, and some mad controllers. It's people. We vary.

My ReaperShep will be abstracted from the galaxy, primarily studying and documenting races, and stepping in only to stop complete extinction of sentient civilizations at the hands of other sentient civilizations. Until proven otherwise, that's her MO. Time will pass, entropy will continue, all will fall and change inevitably. Evolution will march on, and everything that was will fade inexorably into something different. But the memory of that which was will remain, suspended in the Reapers. And the Catalyst will now call itself the Archive.

That's my headcanon, and in lieu of new data, I'm sticking to it.

The bolded part is important to remember.  My headcanon has my Shepard recover, promote synthetic rights (with the MEHEM, that makes that easier), look into advancing technology without the Reapers looming over our heads like an armada of babysitters.  Hell, if I were so inclined, I could have her promote synthesis if people wanted to choose that with synthetics now treated as equals. 

[Konfined]

McFlurry598 wrote...

Hexley UK wrote...


Benevolent or not they still have to do what he says.

Starbrat says no one knows shepard will be controlling the reapers. As well as, shepard not being able to communicate with the outside world. Again, disbanding your argument 

Shepard is still fully cognizant of what is going on in the Galaxy.  So the possibility that Shep may see something they don't like and decide to go medival on our galactic asses is a possibility.  Remote, but as long as the possibility exists- the Reapers exist-  then Control is a threat to the galaxy.