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[McFlurry598]

Mcfly616 wrote...

This same exact post was made in another thread (word for word)


Is this some growing trend where people think that they posted something truly thoughtful and figure it deserves its own thread, therefore we copy and paste it, being quite monotonous and spamming the forum?


Hold on....I'll be right back with my response to this OP. Just have to dig it out of the same thread you got it from....

Chill. I didn't know this was already discussed. Cheezus people..

[Zkyire]

I picked destroy to kill the Reapers.

I have no regrets.

[Stokie Stallion]

I had one mission to destroy the reapers, easy choice tbh! i know i helped the geth become allies made everyone happy but... end of the f*ck the geth LOL i rather see reapers blowing up and soliders cheering! it feels similar to escape from L.A ending where he EMP's the world. more things change more they stay the same.. click. GLORIOUS.

[McFlurry598]

Mcfly616 wrote...

This same exact post was made in another thread (word for word)


Is this some growing trend where people think that they posted something truly thoughtful and figure it deserves its own thread, therefore we copy and paste it, being quite monotonous and spamming the forum?


Hold on....I'll be right back with my response to this OP. Just have to dig it out of the same thread you got it from....

I had no idea this was already discussed, stop jumping to assumptions. Cheezus people..

[FOX216BC]

 

[PinkToolTheater]

So you agree with the Illusive man, a guy who was totally indoctrinated and yet even he realized how whack he was that he shot himself? Go ahead, do as he desires.

[Mcfly616]

McFlurry598 wrote...

Mcfly616 wrote...

This same exact post was made in another thread (word for word)


Is this some growing trend where people think that they posted something truly thoughtful and figure it deserves its own thread, therefore we copy and paste it, being quite monotonous and spamming the forum?


Hold on....I'll be right back with my response to this OP. Just have to dig it out of the same thread you got it from....

I had no idea this was already discussed, stop jumping to assumptions. Cheezus people..

don't be coy. I find it odd that you say you "didn't know it was discussed", when you were the one that agreed with the sentiment in a post that you quoted from a separate thread. No need to chill. I was simply stating a fact.

[Warlock Adam]

Uncle Jo wrote...

Warlock Adam wrote...

SyK18 wrote...

Play or watch Leviathan and you will figure why Control is not gonna work out for the long run. Or hell play all the ME games again and pay real close attention to the Geth, the Protheans, The Leviathan, the Reapers. For you Control seems to work out because it is all butterflies and unicorns. Shepard lives and watches over all of the ME galaxy. Sacrifices were required throughout the whole game. From Legion, to Mordin to Anderson to Thane to Shepard. That's why I chose Destroy. All synthetic life was sacrificed so that the new civilizations can flourish and not possibly perish at the hands of Reapers, whom at the moment at are considered "protectors". I had no clue Shepard was possibly alive.

Wait...how does Leviathan mean Control won't work out?

Shepard's controlling an army of Reapers willing to defend the galaxy to the death. Versus three Leviathans, whose technology is in the hands of the allied races. I'm fine with those odds.

If anything Destroy works out best for the Leviathans--the Reapers are all dead and the Leviathans have a chance to resurge.

Leviathans/Bratalyst. They created and controlled him and then he turned against them.

The Reapers are not willing to defend the galaxy to the death, since the brat brillantly explained to us that they're mindless robots. They just do anything Shep command them to. If Reapard wakes up bad mooded someday and decides to wipe out the salarians for the lols, be sure that Sur'Kesh will be burnt to the ground by the new friends of the galaxy.

But he won't. Not unless you played him that way. That's why his Control dialogue changes based on your character's morality.

And the Reapers ARE the Catalyst. The Catalyst represents the "collective conciousness of all Reapers," as he says. Harbinger was the first Reaper added to this conglomerate intelligence, and it's expanded over time, but it hasn't changed. Once Shepard takes its place, Shepard BECOMES the Reapers. So as long as Shepard doesn't go insane--and because he's ascended mortality, he won't--the Reapers will defend the galaxy.

[Obadiah]

@McFlurry598
I too usually pick Control for just this reason.

Also, you many have noticed there is not much of a "discussion" to be had with people that think your choice is SO VERY WRONG.

Modifié par Obadiah, 24 février 2013 - 10:24 .

[Dr_Extrem]

Obadiah wrote...

@McFlurry598
I too usually pick Control for just this reason.

Also, you many have noticed there is not much of a "discussion" to be had with people that think your choice is SO VERY WRONG.

this argument goes in both directions.

[SyK18]

Warlock Adam wrote...

Uncle Jo wrote...

Warlock Adam wrote...

SyK18 wrote...

Play or watch Leviathan and you will figure why Control is not gonna work out for the long run. Or hell play all the ME games again and pay real close attention to the Geth, the Protheans, The Leviathan, the Reapers. For you Control seems to work out because it is all butterflies and unicorns. Shepard lives and watches over all of the ME galaxy. Sacrifices were required throughout the whole game. From Legion, to Mordin to Anderson to Thane to Shepard. That's why I chose Destroy. All synthetic life was sacrificed so that the new civilizations can flourish and not possibly perish at the hands of Reapers, whom at the moment at are considered "protectors". I had no clue Shepard was possibly alive.

Wait...how does Leviathan mean Control won't work out?

Shepard's controlling an army of Reapers willing to defend the galaxy to the death. Versus three Leviathans, whose technology is in the hands of the allied races. I'm fine with those odds.

If anything Destroy works out best for the Leviathans--the Reapers are all dead and the Leviathans have a chance to resurge.

Leviathans/Bratalyst. They created and controlled him and then he turned against them.

The Reapers are not willing to defend the galaxy to the death, since the brat brillantly explained to us that they're mindless robots. They just do anything Shep command them to. If Reapard wakes up bad mooded someday and decides to wipe out the salarians for the lols, be sure that Sur'Kesh will be burnt to the ground by the new friends of the galaxy.

But he won't. Not unless you played him that way. That's why his Control dialogue changes based on your character's morality.

And the Reapers ARE the Catalyst. The Catalyst represents the "collective conciousness of all Reapers," as he says. Harbinger was the first Reaper added to this conglomerate intelligence, and it's expanded over time, but it hasn't changed. Once Shepard takes its place, Shepard BECOMES the Reapers. So as long as Shepard doesn't go insane--and because he's ascended mortality, he won't--the Reapers will defend the galaxy.

Big assumption, you cannot be certain.

[dreamgazer]

Blizzards are better, McFlurry.

[Mcfly616]

From McFlurry's thread titled: "Am I the only one that's happy about the ending"

McFlurry598 wrote...

Auld Wulf wrote...

Is it just me or does it seem like people who picked Control or Synthesis are far, far more happy with how the plot played out than people who picked Destroy?

I wonder if Destroy fans feel upset for being schooled about closed-mindedness?

"You could have used reaper tech to make the galaxy a better place for everyone to live in, a place where everyone could choose their diversity, a place more free of suffering; but noooo~... you just had to be a crazy, greedy luddite. No better reality for them, you picked the option that was good for you, just you, because Shepard might, MIGHT have lived. Now go and sit in the corner with your broken Citadel toy and think about what you've done and all the people you've killed."

I've watched Destroy again, recently, and it really does feel like that.

I picked control. But this, this post is golden!!! Well done! Well done indeed!

Odd you don't remember this, considering it was in your own thread just a few hours ago. You could've easily continued the conversation in that thread, but No, you chose to make a duplicate thread and spam the forum.

[Warlock Adam]

SyK18 wrote...

Warlock Adam wrote...

But he won't. Not unless you played him that way. That's why his Control dialogue changes based on your character's morality.

And the Reapers ARE the Catalyst. The Catalyst represents the "collective conciousness of all Reapers," as he says. Harbinger was the first Reaper added to this conglomerate intelligence, and it's expanded over time, but it hasn't changed. Once Shepard takes its place, Shepard BECOMES the Reapers. So as long as Shepard doesn't go insane--and because he's ascended mortality, he won't--the Reapers will defend the galaxy.

Big assumption, you cannot be certain.

Um...why?

Considering all of Shepard's dialogue in both Paragon and Renegade Control relates to "defending the many," "preserving the many..." How can you not be certain?

[McFlurry598]

PinkToolTheater wrote...

So you agree with the Illusive man, a guy who was totally indoctrinated and yet even he realized how whack he was that he shot himself? Go ahead, do as he desires.

Ha. I can only imagine what TIM would do if he controlled the Reapers..

*TIM starts destryoing all other species but the humans* "This is for the greater good of humanity!! I am doing this for humanity!"

My paragon shep would never do that

[PnXMarcin1PL]

I picked destroy but I like the endings. Those woh dislike it, well go ahead its ur opinion people

[McFlurry598]

Mcfly616 wrote...

From McFlurry's thread titled: "Am I the only one that's happy about the ending"

McFlurry598 wrote...

Auld Wulf wrote...

Is it just me or does it seem like people who picked Control or Synthesis are far, far more happy with how the plot played out than people who picked Destroy?

I wonder if Destroy fans feel upset for being schooled about closed-mindedness?

"You could have used reaper tech to make the galaxy a better place for everyone to live in, a place where everyone could choose their diversity, a place more free of suffering; but noooo~... you just had to be a crazy, greedy luddite. No better reality for them, you picked the option that was good for you, just you, because Shepard might, MIGHT have lived. Now go and sit in the corner with your broken Citadel toy and think about what you've done and all the people you've killed."

I've watched Destroy again, recently, and it really does feel like that.

I picked control. But this, this post is golden!!! Well done! Well done indeed!

Odd you don't remember this, considering it was in your own thread just a few hours ago. You could've easily continued the conversation in that thread, but No, you chose to make a duplicate thread and spam the forum.

Ha. Forgot about that thread. Thanks, I can see you trying to get me mad here, but i simply forgot. I didn't want to continue the discussion because the thread had been taken over by 4 year old kids.  Besides the forum is spammed to hell anyway, with all this talk about the ending..

[Dr_Extrem]

SyK18 wrote...

Warlock Adam wrote...

Uncle Jo wrote...

Warlock Adam wrote...

SyK18 wrote...

Play or watch Leviathan and you will figure why Control is not gonna work out for the long run. Or hell play all the ME games again and pay real close attention to the Geth, the Protheans, The Leviathan, the Reapers. For you Control seems to work out because it is all butterflies and unicorns. Shepard lives and watches over all of the ME galaxy. Sacrifices were required throughout the whole game. From Legion, to Mordin to Anderson to Thane to Shepard. That's why I chose Destroy. All synthetic life was sacrificed so that the new civilizations can flourish and not possibly perish at the hands of Reapers, whom at the moment at are considered "protectors". I had no clue Shepard was possibly alive.

Wait...how does Leviathan mean Control won't work out?

Shepard's controlling an army of Reapers willing to defend the galaxy to the death. Versus three Leviathans, whose technology is in the hands of the allied races. I'm fine with those odds.

If anything Destroy works out best for the Leviathans--the Reapers are all dead and the Leviathans have a chance to resurge.

Leviathans/Bratalyst. They created and controlled him and then he turned against them.

The Reapers are not willing to defend the galaxy to the death, since the brat brillantly explained to us that they're mindless robots. They just do anything Shep command them to. If Reapard wakes up bad mooded someday and decides to wipe out the salarians for the lols, be sure that Sur'Kesh will be burnt to the ground by the new friends of the galaxy.

But he won't. Not unless you played him that way. That's why his Control dialogue changes based on your character's morality.

And the Reapers ARE the Catalyst. The Catalyst represents the "collective conciousness of all Reapers," as he says. Harbinger was the first Reaper added to this conglomerate intelligence, and it's expanded over time, but it hasn't changed. Once Shepard takes its place, Shepard BECOMES the Reapers. So as long as Shepard doesn't go insane--and because he's ascended mortality, he won't--the Reapers will defend the galaxy.

Big assumption, you cannot be certain.

this assumption is certain .... until shep-ai decides, that life is a threat to itself.

the catalyst took some years to realise that as well. 

mass effect 3 showed us one thing with a 100% certainty - history does repeat itself. every 50k years, the test tubes are flushed, every cycle has a splinter group, that tries to control the reapers, every attempt to uplift a species failed. history will repeat itself ...

[Obadiah]

McFlurry598 wrote...

PinkToolTheater wrote...

So you agree with the Illusive man, a guy who was totally indoctrinated and yet even he realized how whack he was that he shot himself? Go ahead, do as he desires.

Ha. I can only imagine what TIM would do if he controlled the Reapers..

*TIM starts destryoing all other species but the humans* "This is for the greater good of humanity!! I am doing this for humanity!"

My paragon shep would never do that

I find Paragon Control acceptable because it was not something my Shep wanted. Control of the power of the Reapers is not something he sought. The power is just sort of thrust upon him. The war needs to be stopped, and for him this is the most acceptable choice given the options.

Modifié par Obadiah, 24 février 2013 - 10:37 .

[Uncle Jo]

Warlock Adam wrote...

But he won't. Not unless you played him that way. That's why his Control dialogue changes based on your character's morality.

And the Reapers ARE the Catalyst. The Catalyst represents the "collective conciousness of all Reapers," as he says. Harbinger was the first Reaper added to this conglomerate intelligence, and it's expanded over time, but it hasn't changed. Once Shepard takes its place, Shepard BECOMES the Reapers. So as long as Shepard doesn't go insane--and because he's ascended mortality, he won't--the Reapers will defend the galaxy.

Oh, I didn't want to argue about the Control outcome. Everyone is free to interprete it as they see fit. My point is, that in Control you're still baby-sitting the galaxy which is totally depending on your good will. Your methods might be more ethical and less ruthless than the brat's, but you're still an overseer with a big freaking army that outmatches everything known.

Modifié par Uncle Jo, 24 février 2013 - 10:36 .

[Mcfly616]

McFlurry598 wrote...

Mcfly616 wrote...

From McFlurry's thread titled: "Am I the only one that's happy about the ending"

McFlurry598 wrote...

Auld Wulf wrote...

Is it just me or does it seem like people who picked Control or Synthesis are far, far more happy with how the plot played out than people who picked Destroy?

I wonder if Destroy fans feel upset for being schooled about closed-mindedness?

"You could have used reaper tech to make the galaxy a better place for everyone to live in, a place where everyone could choose their diversity, a place more free of suffering; but noooo~... you just had to be a crazy, greedy luddite. No better reality for them, you picked the option that was good for you, just you, because Shepard might, MIGHT have lived. Now go and sit in the corner with your broken Citadel toy and think about what you've done and all the people you've killed."

I've watched Destroy again, recently, and it really does feel like that.

I picked control. But this, this post is golden!!! Well done! Well done indeed!

Odd you don't remember this, considering it was in your own thread just a few hours ago. You could've easily continued the conversation in that thread, but No, you chose to make a duplicate thread and spam the forum.

Ha. Forgot about that thread. Thanks, I can see you trying to get me mad here, but i simply forgot. I didn't want to continue the discussion because the thread had been taken over by 4 year old kids.  Besides the forum is spammed to hell anyway, with all this talk about the ending..

I'm not "trying" to do anything. I'm simply pointing out that you're not helping this "spam" problem that you seem to be aware of. You're contributing to it.

Anyways, my response to your above post from your other thread:


First off, I like all the endings in their own way. But my Canon playthrough (my original playthrough of the series where my decisions reflect the choices that I would make in Shepards shoes), I chose Destroy. I didn't do it for myself. I didn't do it because he lives. I had no way of knowing that he would.

No, I chose Destroy because that's what I set out to do, and I'm going to see it through. Mission Accomplished no matter the cost. So I steeled myself and didn't second guess what I've been fighting for all these years.

What they are and who they were and what their motivations are.....they're all irrelevant in light of how many lives have been lost over a billion years. They need to die. Justice must be served. This is me thinking like a natural human being, letting emotion sway my judgement due to the natural desire for vengeance.

If I were capable of suppressing all human emotion, and made decisions based solely on logic....then I'd choose Synthesis or Control, everytime. Your assumptions of peoples motivations for why they choose Destroy, is quite laughable.

Also laughable is the idea that ones like or dislike of the ending is based on their preferred choice. I like the endings and I prefer Destroy. Some like it and prefer Control or Synthesis. Just because someone dislikes it, doesn't mean they don't make a choice. Most of them prefer conventional victory, to which I laugh again. But you're doing a good job of incorrectly stereotyping pro-Enders and anti-Enders alike.

[Warlock Adam]

Uncle Jo wrote...

Warlock Adam wrote...

But he won't. Not unless you played him that way. That's why his Control dialogue changes based on your character's morality.

And the Reapers ARE the Catalyst. The Catalyst represents the "collective conciousness of all Reapers," as he says. Harbinger was the first Reaper added to this conglomerate intelligence, and it's expanded over time, but it hasn't changed. Once Shepard takes its place, Shepard BECOMES the Reapers. So as long as Shepard doesn't go insane--and because he's ascended mortality, he won't--the Reapers will defend the galaxy.

Oh, I didn't want to argue about the Control outcome. Everyone is free to interprete it as they see fit. My point is, that in Control you're still baby-sitting the galaxy which is totally depending on your good will. Your methods might be more ethical and less ruthless than the brat's, but you're still an overseer with a big freaking army that outmatches everything known.

Ah, I gotcha. I understand your point of view, and completely agree in the case of Renegade Shepard--this was one of my reservations with Control when I chose it; I didn't know whether Shepard would lose himself to the Reapers. Still, I would argue that Paragon Shepard is using the Reapers more to rebuild what was lost than for military purposes. But that's semantics, and in essence you are correct.

[Berty213]

I picked destroy because that's what my Shepard set out to do since day one, destroy the reapers.

[McFlurry598]

Mcfly616 wrote...

McFlurry598 wrote...

Mcfly616 wrote...

From McFlurry's thread titled: "Am I the only one that's happy about the ending"

McFlurry598 wrote...

Auld Wulf wrote...

Is it just me or does it seem like people who picked Control or Synthesis are far, far more happy with how the plot played out than people who picked Destroy?

I wonder if Destroy fans feel upset for being schooled about closed-mindedness?

"You could have used reaper tech to make the galaxy a better place for everyone to live in, a place where everyone could choose their diversity, a place more free of suffering; but noooo~... you just had to be a crazy, greedy luddite. No better reality for them, you picked the option that was good for you, just you, because Shepard might, MIGHT have lived. Now go and sit in the corner with your broken Citadel toy and think about what you've done and all the people you've killed."

I've watched Destroy again, recently, and it really does feel like that.

I picked control. But this, this post is golden!!! Well done! Well done indeed!

Odd you don't remember this, considering it was in your own thread just a few hours ago. You could've easily continued the conversation in that thread, but No, you chose to make a duplicate thread and spam the forum.

Ha. Forgot about that thread. Thanks, I can see you trying to get me mad here, but i simply forgot. I didn't want to continue the discussion because the thread had been taken over by 4 year old kids.  Besides the forum is spammed to hell anyway, with all this talk about the ending..

I'm not "trying" to do anything. I'm simply pointing out that you're not helping this "spam" problem that you seem to be aware of. You're contributing to it.

Anyways, my response to your above post from your other thread:


First off, I like all the endings in their own way. But my Canon playthrough (my original playthrough of the series where my decisions reflect the choices that I would make in Shepards shoes), I chose Destroy. I didn't do it for myself. I didn't do it because he lives. I had no way of knowing that he would.

No, I chose Destroy because that's what I set out to do, and I'm going to see it through. Mission Accomplished no matter the cost. So I steeled myself and didn't second guess what I've been fighting for all these years.

What they are and who they were and what their motivations are.....they're all irrelevant in light of how many lives have been lost over a billion years. They need to die. Justice must be served. This is me thinking like a natural human being, letting emotion sway my judgement due to the natural desire for vengeance.

If I were capable of suppressing all human emotion, and made decisions based solely on logic....then I'd choose Synthesis or Control, everytime. Your assumptions of peoples motivations for why they choose Destroy, is quite laughable.

Also laughable is the idea that ones like or dislike of the ending is based on their preferred choice. I like the endings and I prefer Destroy. Some like it and prefer Control or Synthesis. Just because someone dislikes it, doesn't mean they don't make a choice. Most of them prefer conventional victory, to which I laugh again. But you're doing a good job of incorrectly stereotyping pro-Enders and anti-Enders alike.

Thank you for posting a civil comment  about discussion of the ending, instead of being a dick. I respect your opinion and some what agree with it.

[clarkusdarkus]

I sided with the quarians so already didnt care for the geth, Also didnt know about the breath scene when first playing the game, Destroying reapers was always the goal as i play more renegade than paragon so why would i want to control the reapers as id kill quite alot of people. Its just funny how the other 2 endings get closure yet the one that was primarily the goal since 2007 gets nothing but headcanon and smug attitude from bioware when asked about it.

Modifié par clarkusdarkus, 24 février 2013 - 10:45 .