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[JimmyTheProthean]

Finally one thing in origins that bugged me is everyone wore the same fashion the same armour! and that was the case in Dragon age 2 aswell , the tevinter magisters for example just felt like puny circle mages they're attire did not relfect their culture , which is dark , forbiding and cruel in nature and i think that it is important to relfect that in the appearance of the said people's attire. 
As you can see Bioware is defiantly heading in the right direction this is so awesome. The human ethnic groups look unique now and they relfect their cultures well. The orlesians are Prideful and highly fashionably and arrogant. The fereldans wear a mix of hardy well crafted armour and clothing relfecting they're hardy and warrior nature. And the Tevinters look really mysterious, Dark and dangerous!, i hope bioware keeps up this trend with the other ethnic groups! and actually brings this sort of relfective attire to the game!.

[andrew252]

alright im not trying to make claims on artistic design but those tevinter clothing....it might be hard to wage magical DUELS in them

[jackattack1374]

where did you find this?

[LinksOcarina]

That was floating around the World of Thedas thread for a while now.

It is a good image. I like the concept art.

[andrew252]

jackattack1374 wrote...

where did you find this?

a wizard did it

Modifié par andrew252, 25 février 2013 - 01:41 .

[Shadow of Light Dragon]

andrew252 wrote...

alright im not trying to make claims on artistic design but those tevinter clothing....it might be hard to wage magical DUELS in them

Ah, come on. If templars in full armour can do aerial cartwheels, spellcasting in that getup will be a snap.

[Sejborg]

Yeah. I don't like it. It's too much. Over the top if you will. All flash and no substance.

No practicality what so ever. I feared that DA3 would just turn into one long masquerade. One look at that art design and I have already had enough of it. Yawn/eww.

[XX-Pyro]

Sejborg wrote...

Yeah. I don't like it. It's too much. Over the top if you will. All flash and no substance.

No practicality what so ever. I feared that DA3 would just turn into one long masquerade. One look at that art design and I have already had enough of it. Yawn/eww.

Because we're adept at spotting impractical clothing for people who cast spells right? 

[Sejborg]

XX-Pyro wrote...

Sejborg wrote...

Yeah. I don't like it. It's too much. Over the top if you will. All flash and no substance.

No practicality what so ever. I feared that DA3 would just turn into one long masquerade. One look at that art design and I have already had enough of it. Yawn/eww.

Because we're adept at spotting impractical clothing for people who cast spells right? 

Huge balloon skirts and white makeup blasted all over the face is awesome for spellcasting. 

But that has nothing to do with how ridicouless it looks. 

[Fishy]

Sejborg wrote...

Yeah. I don't like it. It's too much. Over the top if you will. All flash and no substance.

No practicality what so ever. I feared that DA3 would just turn into one long masquerade. One look at that art design and I have already had enough of it. Yawn/eww.

Haute couture is everything, but practical. Its fashion and superficiality at his highest. Aren't you watching the Oscar? Just watching all this shallowness make me uncomfortable.

Modifié par Suprez30, 25 février 2013 - 03:31 .

[Dino]

andrew252 wrote...

jackattack1374 wrote...

where did you find this?

a wizard did it

ENCHANTMENT!! 

[Sejborg]

Suprez30 wrote...

Sejborg wrote...

Yeah. I don't like it. It's too much. Over the top if you will. All flash and no substance.

No practicality what so ever. I feared that DA3 would just turn into one long masquerade. One look at that art design and I have already had enough of it. Yawn/eww.

Haute couture is everything, but practical. Its fashion and superficiality at his highest. Aren't you watching the Oscar? Just watching all this shallowness make me uncomfortable.

Yes I am. But I don't want to play dress up for the oscars. I want to play a dark fantasy game. 

[iOnlySignIn]

Finally. More Orlesian fashion.

[The Hierophant]

Are the middle couple Antivans or Nevarrans?

[HighMoon]

It's high fashion - it's not supposed to be practical! Besides, you'll not see Orlesian nobles getting into duels if they can help it, they generally don't like getting their hands dirty. They prefer the indirect approach.

[HighMoon]

The Hierophant wrote...

Are the middle couple Antivans or Nevarrans?

Neither. They're Fereldens.

[KnightofPhoenix]

Can I say I hate how Tevinters look? I mean, they look like Sith wannabees...
Do we really want to simplify an entire culture to "dark, dangerous and mysterious?"

[Brockololly]

KnightofPhoenix wrote...

Can I say I hate how Tevinters look? I mean, they look like Sith wannabees...
Do we really want to simplify an entire culture to "dark, dangerous and mysterious?"

Pretty much.

All they need are some glowing red eyes and some evil mustaches. The lady looks like an evil Princess Amidala. Ugh.

I'm not a fan of these designs really but I'd be willing to see more and see how these get translated into the game. It just looks like such a random grab bag of random designs that doesn't really do a great job of reflecting any culture or geographic orgin. Instead it just looks like they're trying too hard to look unique.

Modifié par Brockololly, 25 février 2013 - 03:58 .

[slimgrin]

Yeah, but the art design in previous DA games is so poor, this is an improvement. They seem to be taking a more historical approach. Reminds me a bit of TW2.

[Brockololly]

slimgrin wrote...

Yeah, but the art design in previous DA games is so poor, this is an improvement. They seem to be taking a more historical approach. Reminds me a bit of TW2.

That's true, but I think you're really selling short TW2's art here. I'm not seeing any Henselt or Radovid or Vernon Roche in those designs. I'm seeing a guy with a table cloth pinned to his chest and some Goth kids who raided the local Hot Topic and a JoAnn Fabric store.

I can see what they're maybe trying to shoot for in incorporating more historical designs, but it looks like such a mish mash of conflicting ideas, maybe unified by everything have more sharp jagged edges, like DA2's visuals.

Das Tentakel summed it up better than me in this thread:

Das Tentakel wrote...
Personally, I think these designs are  fugly. But that's simply my personal value judgment, and there's every  chance that 1) it's not DA3 concept art, and 2) it might look better  in-game (if it gets into DA3).

More problematically, it's DA:O  and DA2 all over again, meaning that the artists are trying to create  something 'distinctive' by taking things left and right from various  periods and cultures, add a bit of fantasy sauce and call it a day.  There is nothing wrong with mixing and matching stuff, but you do have  to make an effort to make it look cohesive. A lot of fantasy visuals  fail in this, it's not a Dragon Age specific issue, but these days we  have games who have tried and succeeded reasonably well in doing this  more or less right. People are going to notice.

In a nutshell:  The people don't look like they are from the same continent and same  time period, considering the fact that they all belong to cultures that  are interrelated and have been in contact and influenced each other for  centuries. When you look at Europe and the Middle East in 1500-1700, for instance, there are clearly distinctive styles of dress, often quite  beautiful but they are also related to each other, and in the case of  major differences you can easily see transitions based on time and  geography.

Modifié par Brockololly, 25 février 2013 - 04:09 .

[Chiramu]

The Venetian Carnevale would be fantastic references for the costumes in Orlais , I hope they use them.

[TEWR]

Sejborg wrote...

Yeah. I don't like it. It's too much. Over the top if you will. All flash and no substance.

No practicality what so ever. I feared that DA3 would just turn into one long masquerade. One look at that art design and I have already had enough of it. Yawn/eww.

The Orlesian clothing seems to be actually the type of clothing you'd see in real life from this time period, I think. Can't really be sure, as it's damn hard for the interwebz to have pictures of any noble clothing that doesn't just look like some ****ty costume to wear at Halloween parties or isn't just a crude drawing. But I could swear I have seen similar garments before. The hat the woman is wearing.... eh, that's another matter.

The Fereldan garments aren't too bad, though I can't say I'd really see everyone in Ferelden wearing them. Mayhaps they have a touch of barbarianism from Ferelden's ancestors in them, but.... I dunno. There's no fur, and Ferelden is supposed to have some bad winters.

And I want to echo KoP's sentiments on the Tevinter garments. While wearing black doesn't automatically mean evil and it's actually one of my favorite colors to wear in terms of clothing, ascribing black to a morally repugnant society is just.... cliché? I dunno once again.

Granted, Tevinter does have a Black Chantry/Black Divine.... so maybe that's the reason they dress in black? To reflect and embrace the mocking name the White Chantry gave them?

Modifié par The Ethereal Writer Redux, 25 février 2013 - 04:28 .

[The Hierophant]

In terms of art design the concept is a step up from the previous games as it emphasizes the cultural differences. Like all concept art i wonder how much of it will translate into the final product as nothing is set in stone yet. 

Golden-Rose wrote...

The Hierophant wrote...

Are the middle couple Antivans or Nevarrans?

Neither. They're Fereldens.

I can't imagine Anora wearing that dress.

Modifié par The Hierophant, 25 février 2013 - 04:14 .

[KnightofPhoenix]

The Ethereal Writer Redux wrote...
Granted, Tevinter does have a Black Chantry/Black Divine.... so maybe that's the reason they dress in black? To reflect and embrace the mocking name the White Chantry gave them?

I don't mind if priests dress like that. But if the common folk or even the nobility dress like that (and my beef is more the black / hood combo than the black)? Well it's meh. Might as well point an arrow saying they are bad, which had been how they were consistently portrayed in both DA:O and DA2.

[Lenimph]

KnightofPhoenix wrote...

Can I say I hate how Tevinters look? I mean, they look like Sith wannabees...
Do we really want to simplify an entire culture to "dark, dangerous and mysterious?"

Sith Wannabes? The Tevinter woman's look reminds me more of the high fashion of Naboo more then anything else.

Yeah it is Star Warsy... but I like that.

Modifié par Lenimph, 25 février 2013 - 04:24 .