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oh god the mis-qoute of doom



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Pugz82 wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

LeandroBraz wrote...

I will believe only when it's confirmed. We are in the middle of a banner contest, this could be the job of a fan, that was mistaken as a DLC banner.

For the femal turian and the Krogan war master..How could they get the art assits to do them?


They can "make them up"....you haven't seen them, we haven't seen them.  So in theory "anything" can be real.

You have no idea how 3d modeling works do you. A faker can't fake them to that much detail being that no one has seen them in detail.

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You guys.

The live stream is tomorrow. The talon merc will be seen. Then you will know if this is real or fake. Calm your jiggly bumbums

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Vlark wrote...
Easy. The Alliance Infiltrator is the same/nearly the same model as EDI from SP (as seen in the Official Screenshot @ Hydra). With that in mind you can easiely put an EDI...i meant Alliance Infiltrator Bot right into the Picture.
The Talon Mercanery shown in the Punisher picture is nothing else than the Torso from Zaeed (SP) and the Recon Hood Helmet. The Collector in fact is a piece of work BUT if you compare this picture to the Punisher one...its nearly the same in Green. In Mass Effect 2 you encountered numerous of these , so it wouldn't be hard to take a picture. 
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So to say i don't believe these are actual Bioware Material. But as stated before it would be nice if it would be. 


Wrong, but still:
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Thing is, the Female Turian we're getting in Reckoning has different armour to Nyreen in Omega.
Her chest piece, shoulder armour and legs are different.

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A lot of people gonna eat crow when these turn out to be real. :whistle:

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Chameleonbot wrote...

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THANK THE SPIRITS.
Someone who actually looks at things logically around here.
Jeeze.

Ha - thank you! I'll admit it's logic mixed with instinct, a couple of the arguments could go both ways, but... I've seen a lot of fakes, and I've seen a lot of leaks, and fakes tend to be a lot fakier than this.

Frankly, though, the biggest clue is - reckoning banner, I can understand, but why would a fraudster bother making an asari banner? If they're just making banners to mess with people, what's the asari adding, whose cage is that meant to rattle? I mean, the net result is that it makes it look more legitimate to mugs like me, but if you're mocking pictures up just to see who's going to swallow them, rustling up a Matriarch banner would just be another banner full of things you might potentially get caught out on.

If it's a fake, this is extreme dedication to a bit.

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Those banners are pretty weak. Most are old characters hmmm. If this is really it pretty much confirms there's only 6 new characters.

Modifié par Rip The Reaper, 25 février 2013 - 03:19 .


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 Is that a biotic Prothean I see on the Punisher banner?

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dreman9999 wrote...

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THE  IMAGE may have been. 

The image is obviously real. But, it has all 6 characters together....which is a unreal. THUS...the IMAGE IS A FAKE or a mockup

when news game out they were to be included...there was no real uproar against their inclusion.

This banners has way more thant 6 characters on it...
https://encrypted-tb...uCMVxhgBaxZYTTA
Must be fake , too.


now you being stupid

No , I'm justlooking at the details.Sure, you can say the edibot, the collector, the prime andthe Zaeed merc can be esily be faked..But the Krogan war master with his tech armor and the female turican can't. That is way to much detal to 3d model for a quick fake.


why cant it be faked? why are you so sure? Gary'd Mod...stuff for DAZ and Poser....3DMAX...so on and so on. all you gotta do is get the model outta the game and onto a 3d program.

or....get the pic from a mag or someplace on the internet...cut and paste. so on and so on.

if it exists....it can be mainpulated

all im saying is...I DONT BELIEVE everything i see on the interweb...this? this i will not believe till i see it myself...cuz the SOURCE....or lack thereof...is questionable (nonexistant  rather)

Modifié par corporal doody, 25 février 2013 - 03:18 .


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Admiral/Calibrator.... do want!

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dreman9999 wrote...

Pugz82 wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

LeandroBraz wrote...

I will believe only when it's confirmed. We are in the middle of a banner contest, this could be the job of a fan, that was mistaken as a DLC banner.

For the femal turian and the Krogan war master..How could they get the art assits to do them?


They can "make them up"....you haven't seen them, we haven't seen them.  So in theory "anything" can be real.

You have no idea how 3d modeling works do you. A faker can't fake them to that much detail being that no one has seen them in detail.


Yes I have no idea what so ever...looks at wall in office, oh hey there Bachelors of Fine Arts in Graphic Design.  Yes I know nothing, nothing at all about photoshop, illustrator, or any other program out there to render up an image banner.

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dreman9999 wrote...

And the Korgan war master and the female turian?


Again very easy. The Krogan War-Master is a rip-Off from the Mass Effect 2 Krogan Armors from the Chief Weyrloc Guld.
Picture here: http://masseffect.wi...le=Guld_cr.png 

And the Female Turian was featured in Omega, just one modell but that is - again - possible to be redone.

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While these could very easily be fakes, is it bad if I really want them to be real? Zaeed and a Collector would be awesome characters as far as I'm concerned.

I guess we'll see in two days.

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Vlark wrote...

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Given the quality of the "Heartbreaker" banner, I believe they can do such a thing. Also, why wouldn't you reuse the same art asset if it fits the thematic of the image? As a photoshopper myself, I do that all the time. 

Also, you point out the Krogan Warlord as proof, and yet if the Punisher pic is a fake, then what of the never-before seen pics of the Talon Mercernary or the Alliance Infiltrator there? Also, the Collector which doesn't appear to be from any prior released art. 


Easy. The Alliance Infiltrator is the same/nearly the same model as EDI from SP (as seen in the Official Screenshot @ Hydra). With that in mind you can easiely put an EDI...i meant Alliance Infiltrator Bot right into the Picture.


The Alliance Infiltrator is the same as EDI from SP yes. However, the image used is not. 

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This is the pose that EDI has in the SP, and it's clear to see that it's not the same as the pose the Alliance Infiltrator unit has. 

The Talon Mercanery shown in the Punisher picture is nothing else than the Torso from Zaeed (SP) and the Recon Hood Helmet.


While that is a possibility, I don't remember images that can be taken that would give the exact same angle as the character in the banner, and trust me attaching heads from one image unto another convincingly is difficult enough as is even if you have good images (I make a lot of 'head transplants' in my spare time). 

The Collector in fact is a piece of work BUT if you compare this picture to the Punisher one...its nearly the same in Green. In Mass Effect 2 you encountered numerous of these , so it wouldn't be hard to take a picture. 
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It's not nearly the same. Not only does the banner pic have more detail, said detail also looks different, not to mention that the eye glow would have to be tone down and more detail added to make a convincing shop. 

Vlark wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

And the Korgan war master and the female turian?


Again very easy. The Krogan War-Master is a rip-Off from the Mass Effect 2 Krogan Armors from the Chief Weyrloc Guld.
Picture here: http://masseffect.wi...le=Guld_cr.png 


And yet the Krogan in the banner has a Biotic Hammer, which has never been made in Mass Effect before. 

And the Female Turian was featured in Omega, just one modell but that is - again - possible to be redone.


While I have not played the Omega DLC yet, and am not sure about Nyreen's alternate appearance there, the image in the banner doesn't conform to any known images of Nyreen so far, especially when it comes to the armor design, which is less ornate (i.e. less spikes) than Nyreen's standard armor. 

Modifié par LGear, 25 février 2013 - 03:24 .


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Constant Motion wrote...

Chameleonbot wrote...

Constant Motion wrote...
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THANK THE SPIRITS.
Someone who actually looks at things logically around here.
Jeeze.

Ha - thank you! I'll admit it's logic mixed with instinct, a couple of the arguments could go both ways, but... I've seen a lot of fakes, and I've seen a lot of leaks, and fakes tend to be a lot fakier than this.

Frankly, though, the biggest clue is - reckoning banner, I can understand, but why would a fraudster bother making an asari banner? If they're just making banners to mess with people, what's the asari adding, whose cage is that meant to rattle? I mean, the net result is that it makes it look more legitimate to mugs like me, but if you're mocking pictures up just to see who's going to swallow them, rustling up a Matriarch banner would just be another banner full of things you might potentially get caught out on.

If it's a fake, this is extreme dedication to a bit.

On the asari note, do you think that might imply another asari in the DLC? We have a ton, but Thessia got kicked in the pants, so it makes sense. And the Council races all feed into the Council Operative Banner anyway, so...
Then again, it could be just for ****andgiggles.

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Broganisity wrote...

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second the new juggernaut does not have the two things sticking out of its back but the normal geth prime does. calling BS. on this one


Juggernaut and Prime use different models. The Juggernaut in these 'leaked' banner images do not have the transmitter nodes on their backs. Nor does the Juggernaut mode at all, given it is not a command unit like the Prime is. Your debunking was debunked. :U


look close just behind his raised hand, you must missed them :whistle:

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Sputnik127 wrote...

A lot of people gonna eat crow when these turn out to be real. :whistle:


Nah I don't believe anything posted here until it is proven...unless OneTrueShot posts it since he was correct on every single DLC leak.

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DullahansXMark wrote...

I think he was being sarcastic.

Still, those pictures take an annoyingly long time to load.


Not exactly a quality uploading site, is it? :mellow:

Still, looking at that Punisher banner, you can see that the 'Zaeed' character lacks his tattoos on the exposed skin, the Warlord's tech armor variant, and (unless its head is just titled a bit to its left) has a different head shape from the basic troopers, but not like the Captain.

Little interesting details along the way and all that.

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Pugz82 wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

Pugz82 wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

LeandroBraz wrote...

I will believe only when it's confirmed. We are in the middle of a banner contest, this could be the job of a fan, that was mistaken as a DLC banner.

For the femal turian and the Krogan war master..How could they get the art assits to do them?


They can "make them up"....you haven't seen them, we haven't seen them.  So in theory "anything" can be real.

You have no idea how 3d modeling works do you. A faker can't fake them to that much detail being that no one has seen them in detail.


Yes I have no idea what so ever...looks at wall in office, oh hey there Bachelors of Fine Arts in Graphic Design.  Yes I know nothing, nothing at all about photoshop, illustrator, or any other program out there to render up an image banner.

You do know it's Maya and other 3d models that have to be made first to even start to make a pic with.
If this was pure 2d art it would be one thing. But this is a pic of 3d art.

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DullahansXMark wrote...

thepringle wrote...

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Can these seriously not be converted into the proper formatting? I'm not clicking those, they look way shady.


Dude, those IMAGE links gave me tons of VIRUSES.
Don't trust them at all.

 

Really? Worked just fine for me.


I think he was being sarcastic.

Still, those pictures take an annoyingly long time to load.


I thought so, judging by the capitalized words. Anyway, yeah they did take a rediculous amount of time to load.

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Volc19 wrote...

While these could very easily be fakes, is it bad if I really want them to be real? Zaeed and a Collector would be awesome characters as far as I'm concerned.

I guess we'll see in two days.


I want them all to be real too...but I am still calling them fake :innocent:

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Vlark wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

And the Korgan war master and the female turian?


Again very easy. The Krogan War-Master is a rip-Off from the Mass Effect 2 Krogan Armors from the Chief Weyrloc Guld.
Picture here: http://masseffect.wi...le=Guld_cr.png 

And the Female Turian was featured in Omega, just one modell but that is - again - possible to be redone.

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If you look closely at the thrall, it seems it has the red and blue lighting on the sides of its head like most ME3 MP character art does, example here: http://rome123.devia...ldier-331906075

Doesn't really indicate whether or not these are legit, but it shows an attention to detail and not just some random character portraits pasted from google images.

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what if bioware actually did just take some crappy old assets from before and redo them in photoshop, but at the same time creating legit banners!

[insert conspiracy keanu]

oh wait...

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dreman9999 wrote...

Pugz82 wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

Pugz82 wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

LeandroBraz wrote...

I will believe only when it's confirmed. We are in the middle of a banner contest, this could be the job of a fan, that was mistaken as a DLC banner.

For the femal turian and the Krogan war master..How could they get the art assits to do them?


They can "make them up"....you haven't seen them, we haven't seen them.  So in theory "anything" can be real.

You have no idea how 3d modeling works do you. A faker can't fake them to that much detail being that no one has seen them in detail.


Yes I have no idea what so ever...looks at wall in office, oh hey there Bachelors of Fine Arts in Graphic Design.  Yes I know nothing, nothing at all about photoshop, illustrator, or any other program out there to render up an image banner.

You do know it's Maya and other 3d models that have to be made first to even start to make a pic with.
If this was pure 2d art it would be one thing. But this is a pic of 3d art.


Ok professor, thanks for the input tonight.  We'll see what happens on tuesday.  Like I said more than once I would love for them to be real...still calling them fake.