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[Reorte]

I doubt that more time would've fixed the fundamental flaws with ME3 although some of the lesser ones (e.g. obvious technical issues like getting stuck on the bridge, invisible rocks, or heads twisting around like owls) wouldn't be there. But too much of the writing had a "This is in because it looks cool and that's good enough for us" feel, without too much thought having gone into the implications, consequences, or whether or not it even made any sense. Time probably wouldn't have done anything about that.

[VirtualAlex]

I think you are dead wrong about the game mechanics. They are certainly the most refined they ever were in ME1 and ME2.

[Immer Rastrelly]

ME3 is a one big flaw. Period. There is no part of the game that actually is good for me. I won't say this has to be applied to every person in the world - it's just my opinion. So... I played ME3 only up to the Turian homeworld and dropped this pile of awfulness. I've never personally experienced the endings, but I saw them and they are plain stupid. They are poorly attached, poorly written and make no sense at all - even without mentioning final battle consists of things directly opposite to Codex articles. But let's get back to my gameplay experience. Firstly - I lost control over storyline completely. I no longer control Shepard. For example, my Shepard would never accept hers soldier badge back. It's a minor point, but still. More of that - Ashley would stay on Normandy. In a tightly shut cell. And would be tossed away on the first safe habitable planet. But I cannot control that! So what do I have? A strange unsympathetic and strange crew, created by some sort of alien logic (CHAMBERS? Still on the Normandy?!! Are you serious?! EDI???!!! STILL ON THE NORMANDY?????!!!!! Do the writers understand how this all works or not?! I assure you - EDI would be removed from Normandy and placed to the isolated research facility immediately, and Chambers would be sitting in jail). Implausibility of wonderful discowery of the Prothean anti-Reaper weapon right before actual Reaper arrival looks improbable and boring. There is no thought or effort put into this scenario. Every problem in ME setting is solved via prothean wisdom! Why couldn't it be a brilliantly deduced by some of MODERN scientists Reaper flaw? Something that makes them vulnerable? Or internal crysis in-between the Reapers? But no! An ancient Doomsday Device. How inventive! But I saw thin in Fifth Element already - and there it was fun at least! Liara's actions seem strange and illogical too. She's a Shadow Broker now! That ship of hers was needed not to be immediately abandoned. But who cares? Fanboys want Liara as a crewmember. Tyrian resistance looks simply dumb. I am sorry, but all the Reapers need to do to break any form of defence is to point their frickin' beams at the planet/moon surface! Thos battleship-class reapers would annihilate everyone and everything within seconds. But nooooo, there are proud ornithoids who FIGHT BACK! It's so epic! And let's get to game mechanics! Leveling up is useless - it's just a way to boost a preferred weaponry. Combats are no better from the second part - they are extremely BORING. In the first game was that cool system of overheating. Here - standart ammo. And what, averyone just tossed old guns with INFINITE AMMO away? Cuz those colding elements are so much better?! And grenades are back! Yay! What a nonsence. UI of course is a song to be sang. It is one of the worst UI I've ever seen. It's even worse then ME2 one! Unintuitive, lamely designed, strangely coloured. Journal is uninformative. Weapon upgrade menu sticks out and is simply impossible to use. And let's speak about multiplayer! Well, it's just bad. It gets old after about 5 matches. No surprises, nothing interesting, no arena changes, just a handful of waves with uninspiring tasks in-between. Horribly boring, and overall just a perfect example of resourses taken away from singleplayer. And they want MONEY for this?! Exterminatus mode in Space Marine was way better. And I didn't say anything about main offence! Face import. Just face import. This game is the worst case of broken hopes in my life. I wasn't that angry even when Orange Revolution happened in my country - simply because I knew perfectly who those "revolutionnaires" are, but BioWare had my faith. But now this company is dead for me. I was hoping the Citadel will be accompanied by some sort of fixes to other problems - but, as I see, nothing like this happened. So this is the end of any form of interaction between me and BioWare. This game is unforgivable. It could be a masterpiece - but it is a less then mediocre action. And I don't care if it gets better in the middle. I know that the beginning is awful, and I know the ending is no better.

No need to respond to this message. I won't read these forums any more.

[wright1978]

I certainly think extra time would have enabled them to smooth a lot of the rough spots, whether time would have given them breathing space to deal with the trainwreck of an ending who knows.

[guacamayus]

I have to agree with you OP, the game lacks a soul. The reasons have been discussed to death, believe me when I say that, to me, this is not about the endings.

Legion's sudden personality change, the dissapearance of Harbinger, the retcon about a reaper consensus (each a nation, independent.. right), Cerberus' nonsensical behavior, grandoise speeches, everyone from ME2 completely sidelined, autodialogue, the obvious budget issues that affected things like Priority: Earth... and much, much more.

The biggest let down has been the Citadel dlc, while I wasn't expecting a new ending or the IT becoming a real thing the lack of a serious piece of dlc as a final goodbye left me wonderining why on earth, with all things unfinished to choose from, they went with a clone... a clone of all things... I feel as if Bioware wanted to scare away the people who give a crap about quality and keep those interested in shooting things and romanceable characters with huge boobs.
The last dlc was so far away from what Mass Effect was that I have serious doubts they'll be able to continue the franchise without making things worse.

Anyway, this is my last post on this boards, Bioware thanks for the awesome moments both ME1 and 2 gave me and shame on you for the crappy job you did on part 3.

Modifié par guacamayus, 10 mars 2013 - 08:01 .

[LoboFH]

Thanks BioWare for this wonderful travel, all Mass Effect chapters are awesome, none is perfect, but who is perfect?

[Charles Rosemberg]

LoboFH wrote...

Thanks BioWare for this wonderful travel, all Mass Effect chapters are awesome, none is perfect, but who is perfect?

Damm Right

[Sunsetspawn]

Immer Rastrelly wrote...

ME3 is a one big flaw. Period. There is no part of the game that actually is good for me. I won't say this has to be applied to every person in the world - it's just my opinion.

You're even angier than I am, holy crap!

So... I played ME3 only up to the Turian homeworld and dropped this pile of awfulness.

To be fair, that was the poorest section of the game.  It had great promise, but it was completely on rails to the point where it actually felt like some odd amusement park mockup of Palaven's moon.

I've never personally experienced the endings, but I saw them and they are plain stupid. They are poorly attached, poorly written and make no sense at all - even without mentioning final battle consists of things directly opposite to Codex articles.

Use your agressive feelings, boy; let the hate flow through you.

But let's get back to my gameplay experience. Firstly - I lost control over storyline completely. I no longer control Shepard. For example, my Shepard would never accept hers soldier badge back. It's a minor point, but still. More of that - Ashley would stay on Normandy. In a tightly shut cell. And would be tossed away on the first safe habitable planet. But I cannot control that! So what do I have? A strange unsympathetic and strange crew, created by some sort of alien logic (CHAMBERS? Still on the Normandy?!! Are you serious?! EDI???!!! STILL ON THE NORMANDY?????!!!!! Do the writers understand how this all works or not?! I assure you - EDI would be removed from Normandy and placed to the isolated research facility immediately, and Chambers would be sitting in jail).

Wait wait wait, what did Kelly do?  My Kelly was a milkshake so I'm not following. Oh, that's right, Cerberus.

Implausibility of wonderful discowery of the Prothean anti-Reaper weapon right before actual Reaper arrival looks improbable and boring. There is no thought or effort put into this scenario. Every problem in ME setting is solved via prothean wisdom! Why couldn't it be a brilliantly deduced by some of MODERN scientists Reaper flaw? Something that makes them vulnerable? Or internal crysis in-between the Reapers? But no! An ancient Doomsday Device. How inventive!

Good! Your hate has made you powerful. Now, fulfill your destiny and take your father's place at my side!

Seriously, they wrote themselves into a corner before the DLC schedule was finished for ME2

I know the ending is no better.

You don't know the half of it.  Play the whole thing and THEN experience the ending.  Oh, the rage you will feel.

[Drunkencelt]

I am thoroughly convinced you are poisoned by the ending and will have your mind made up regardless.

The things you listed are not rational.
1. The wierd running mechanic? You enjoyed two and one but three bothers you?
2. The cover mechanic works far better in three than two. The transitions in and out and vaulting over is night and day better than two.
3. Three has the most realistic recoil out of the three. Some weapons recoil are abolustely absurd and over the top.

We could talk all day but you mind is made up because of 5 minutes in an amazing game.

[giveamanafish...]

Kelly Chambers, even if she's alive, never appears on the Normandy.

The Prothean device does not solve "every problem in ME setting", This is a misrepresentation of the plot, The device merely is a weapon of war ,developed over milliena by countless civiliations in response to the Reaper invasion cycle, which gives Shepard a chance to end the war with the Reapers w/o the complete destruction of sentient life. Its effects were unknown, much like the atomic weapons used in WWII and which are referenced very early in the story. The actual effects of the weapon, or the choice of effects, is deternined by the Starchild, which if you tnink about it, is is a good representation of the actual nature of all-out war and may also be, again a reference to WWII, -- the Imperial Japanese at the end, was handing out hand grenades (1) and pointed bambooo sticks to the civilian population in preparation for an allied invasion.

Sunsetspawn, Immer Rastrelly's hate is not making him more powerful. He's confused about the story and instead of addressing his confusion he's jumping on the hate bandwagon and you're encouraging him.

[Titus Thongger]

people really need to stop crying over the endings and move on with their lives. good grief

Modifié par Titus Thongger, 11 mars 2013 - 02:32 .

[Cadence of the Planes]

Titus Thongger wrote...

people really need to stop crying over the endings and move on with their lives. good grief

+800

[Koju737]

While I respect your opinion and the fact that you presented them in a rational and respectful manner(unlike some other people here) Im quite tired of people acting as if its a fact that ME3 and its endings are bad. Sure there were a few plot holes in the Vanilla ending which were frustrating, and that kind of thing is objective, but as far as I can tell they were all fixed with the EC. For free. Most of the complaints regarding the ending I see now are purely subjective. Everything from "it breaks themes" to the idiotic dumbing down of the reapers motive through that xhibit meme "we kill organics using synthetics to save organics" is all personal opinion and in no way shape or form a legitimate argument to support the absurd claim that the endings are "factually" bad.

I completely understand why people don't like the endings and various other things with ME3 and I respect that but, don't for a second think that just cause other people think the same way that means its a "fact". Its not. I happen to actually really like the endings post EC but I dont think its a universal fact or anything. It doesnt mean I have bad tastes or low standards, it just means I enjoyed the endings. As for the rest of the game, I think its more of an RPG then 2 ever was, atleast in the gameplay and combat department. It felt incredibly refined with the huge wealth of weapons that actually vary from eachother, the weight system, weapon mods and expanded skill trees with multiple branches with tons of different powers and combinations... plus 60 levels instead of 30. There are of course other things with the game that I didnt personally like or would change like the lack of hub worlds and dirt simple journal system and at sometimes lack of player input, but thats no different from ME2 or ME1, in that there were things that didnt particularly like. I thought the overall story was incredible, especially the Genophage and Rannoch arcs. I was moved to tears more than once through my play-through.

And Im no casual fan... I was hooked to this series since the first announcement in XBOX magazine back 2005. I got all 3 games day one, bought all dlc and I absolutely love Mass effect to death regardless of any flaws each of the three games had. Just saying, people have different opinions, and it should be left at that.

Modifié par Koju737, 11 mars 2013 - 02:47 .

[Jayce]

There's no doubt in my mind they pushed very hard to meet a 24 month turnover and the game suffered as a result. It lacks any sort of polish.

That said, 3 probably has the best balanced combat mechanics of the trilogy and certainly the best sound. It also did a great job of finding a balance between ME1's quest mechanics and ME2's. Although the return of eavesdropping was welcome, it was ruined by turning nearly all of them into very chore-like 'Go Fetch' side-quests. Fewer, more developed minor quests, like 2's various merc bashing locales, would've been very welcome. The absence of anything like this, beyond Benning; a very obvious shoe-horning in of a multi-player map, shows just how tight they were for time.

Overall, I'd agree with OP. The game very obviously needed another 4-6 months development time. The schedule, for whatever reason it was arrived at, spoiled what could've easily become Bioware's new signature game, instead its damaged their reputation. That's a real shame and I hope it's one whoever makes the budget scheduling decisions for Bioware these days learns a very important lesson from.

[Wip3out]

alot of you guys have a problem with things that were explained in the game. And then things that werent explained you get mad at as well. I like games that make you come up with your own conclusions and thats what it was until the ec. Funny though my own conclusion ended up to be the same as the ec, weird huh? So its time to get over the ending, its been a year. Next thing you guys are gonna start ****ing about tali's picture on how she didnt die from taking that picture like the one guy did.

[Eralrik]

You know what Bioware wanted a game that would be talked about for years to come an they got it with Mass Effect 3 if the real endings hadn't been leaked and was actually implemented we probably wouldn't be having these discussions, instead they had to scramble an throw in a whole new ending with the choices they said we wouldn't get it would be a new experience and it probably would have been if it was the origional endings.
So now those of us who dislike the endings we got as they make no scientific sense even in a sci-fi universe, We get Reaper God's for Synthesis who can alter every organic being in the galaxy an combine with synthetics <On that basis their throwing the bible away an I refuse to choose it.>
Control my Rengade Shepard and even my Paragon wouldn't choose this even if the Reaper's started lining people up and shooting them, i would break my beliefs I would find anotherway.
Destroy is the best option but I play a Sniper even with a pistol that never runs out of ammo I sure as heck wouldn't shoot an run up to the exploding conduit, I'd shoot for max effect from a distance as I'm damn well not going to throw my life away just yet if I have to make a scarifice it'll be at my calling. As the kid who shouldn't even be there in that form unless the Reaper actually saw Shepard on the Normandy with his look as it could easily have been for any one of those people on board those shuttle's, so yep I disbelieve that aspect and the kid also mentioned the majority of Shepard is cybernetics so destroy option would leave Shepard completely paralyzed.
The Extended cut gives us a 4th option is a joke an tells us that we shouldn't mess or question Bioware's Artistic Integrity.
I love Bioware as a game company but every project is a learning experiance an we as fans can be a hard people to please expecially when you give us great games with extremely good imaginations from some very talented writers an comments and feedback from the fan base, but even with all that they are not infallable and can mess up from time to time.
As much as those players who loved the endings and wish those who didn't like the endings would shutup an move on it just won't happen as were all entitled to our opionons an the feedback we give is the stuff that Bioware needs to learn and fix in future titles.
Though I don't envy the Mass Effect 4 team having to write the next game with those 4 endings that was implemented, unless they go back to the First Contact Wars before Shepard was born an write the game from there, if they go after ME3 several 100 years in the future they still have to down play ME3's ending's somehow.

These are my opionon's and I'm held accountable for them if Bioware finds anything I wrote offensive if so I deeply apologize.

<Steps down from the soap box>

[Col.Aurion]

Cadence of the Planes wrote...

Titus Thongger wrote...

people really need to stop crying over the endings and move on with their lives. good grief

+800

-70000

[RighteousNixon]

I loved ME3 the first time I played it, which was during the first week it was released. As soon as I was done, I moved on to other games. I purchased all of the DLC, as Bioware released it, but I never got around to playing any of it. So when I heard that Bioware had released the final DLC package....well, I figured this would be a perfect time to play it again. I could enjoy all of the DLC during my 2nd play through. Anyways, I just finished up that 2nd play through late last night and my opinion remains unchanged. I love ME3! Actually, to say my opinion remains unchanged is not entirely accurate as I actually enjoyed it even more the 2nd time around. All in all, Mass Effect was easily the best gaming experience I have ever had and I cant wait to see where Bioware takes the series next! I am a Mass Effect fan for life!

I am well aware of the fact that a lot of gamers didn't like it and as long as its done in a mature and respectable way, I have no problem with those gamers expressing their opinions on this forum. At the end of the day, its just subjective opinion, nothing more and nothing less. It doesn't matter if there was a poll showing that a million fans hated the game, its still subjective opinion and there is no right or wrong when dealing with subjective opinion, period. So again, I have no problem with it. My biggest issue is the fans that think they are owed something, that Bioware owes them the game or ending that they wanted. I cant even begin to express how utterly absurd this idea is. Imagine the book industry or movie industry if writers or directors had to change the content, after it had been released, to try and appease some of the fans. Star Wars fans hated episode 1 yet did George go back and change the film? I think not. If you didn't like ME3 than you didn't like ME3. Guess what, thats life!! Every year I play games that I ultimately wind up disliking. The same goes for movies and books. In fact, I just finished reading Cloud Atlas a few days back and didn't care for it at all. That doesn't mean I am going to email the writer and demand it be changed. To demand that Bioware change the game so that its more in line with what you expected or wanted....well, it just reaks of immaturity and self righteousness and I am extremely thankful that Bioware stuck to their guns and didn't wind up changing anything. Yes, they did release the extended cut but that didn't change anything, it just hashed things out and made it easer to understand. Had they gone back and changed the story or game would have set a terrible precedence in this industry. 

It really is a shame that a lot of the members of this forum didn't like ME3. I can only imagine how bummed I would have been had I not liked it myself. That said, Bioware doesn't owe anyone anything. Its their story to tell and they did just that. If you didn't like it then you didn't like it. accept it and move on. Demanding that they change it, so that you can like it , is nothing short of childish. Its just not how the world of storytelling works. If thats how you want things to be then go and write your own story. You can then do whatever you want with it. 

[Wip3out]

RighteousNixon wrote...

I loved ME3 the first time I played it, which was during the first week it was released. As soon as I was done, I moved on to other games. I purchased all of the DLC, as Bioware released it, but I never got around to playing any of it. So when I heard that Bioware had released the final DLC package....well, I figured this would be a perfect time to play it again. I could enjoy all of the DLC during my 2nd play through. Anyways, I just finished up that 2nd play through late last night and my opinion remains unchanged. I love ME3! Actually, to say my opinion remains unchanged is not entirely accurate as I actually enjoyed it even more the 2nd time around. All in all, Mass Effect was easily the best gaming experience I have ever had and I cant wait to see where Bioware takes the series next! I am a Mass Effect fan for life!

I am well aware of the fact that a lot of gamers didn't like it and as long as its done in a mature and respectable way, I have no problem with those gamers expressing their opinions on this forum. At the end of the day, its just subjective opinion, nothing more and nothing less. It doesn't matter if there was a poll showing that a million fans hated the game, its still subjective opinion and there is no right or wrong when dealing with subjective opinion, period. So again, I have no problem with it. My biggest issue is the fans that think they are owed something, that Bioware owes them the game or ending that they wanted. I cant even begin to express how utterly absurd this idea is. Imagine the book industry or movie industry if writers or directors had to change the content, after it had been released, to try and appease some of the fans. Star Wars fans hated episode 1 yet did George go back and change the film? I think not. If you didn't like ME3 than you didn't like ME3. Guess what, thats life!! Every year I play games that I ultimately wind up disliking. The same goes for movies and books. In fact, I just finished reading Cloud Atlas a few days back and didn't care for it at all. That doesn't mean I am going to email the writer and demand it be changed. To demand that Bioware change the game so that its more in line with what you expected or wanted....well, it just reaks of immaturity and self righteousness and I am extremely thankful that Bioware stuck to their guns and didn't wind up changing anything. Yes, they did release the extended cut but that didn't change anything, it just hashed things out and made it easer to understand. Had they gone back and changed the story or game would have set a terrible precedence in this industry. 

It really is a shame that a lot of the members of this forum didn't like ME3. I can only imagine how bummed I would have been had I not liked it myself. That said, Bioware doesn't owe anyone anything. Its their story to tell and they did just that. If you didn't like it then you didn't like it. accept it and move on. Demanding that they change it, so that you can like it , is nothing short of childish. Its just not how the world of storytelling works. If thats how you want things to be then go and write your own story. You can then do whatever you want with it. 

+1000000 and to add to your last paragraph, If they change the ending for the people who dislike it, the people who like it will become unhappy.

[Aezync]

RighteousNixon wrote...

I loved ME3 the first time I played it, which was during the first week it was released. As soon as I was done, I moved on to other games. I purchased all of the DLC, as Bioware released it, but I never got around to playing any of it. So when I heard that Bioware had released the final DLC package....well, I figured this would be a perfect time to play it again. I could enjoy all of the DLC during my 2nd play through. Anyways, I just finished up that 2nd play through late last night and my opinion remains unchanged. I love ME3! Actually, to say my opinion remains unchanged is not entirely accurate as I actually enjoyed it even more the 2nd time around. All in all, Mass Effect was easily the best gaming experience I have ever had and I cant wait to see where Bioware takes the series next! I am a Mass Effect fan for life!

I am well aware of the fact that a lot of gamers didn't like it and as long as its done in a mature and respectable way, I have no problem with those gamers expressing their opinions on this forum. At the end of the day, its just subjective opinion, nothing more and nothing less. It doesn't matter if there was a poll showing that a million fans hated the game, its still subjective opinion and there is no right or wrong when dealing with subjective opinion, period. So again, I have no problem with it. My biggest issue is the fans that think they are owed something, that Bioware owes them the game or ending that they wanted. I cant even begin to express how utterly absurd this idea is. Imagine the book industry or movie industry if writers or directors had to change the content, after it had been released, to try and appease some of the fans. Star Wars fans hated episode 1 yet did George go back and change the film? I think not. If you didn't like ME3 than you didn't like ME3. Guess what, thats life!! Every year I play games that I ultimately wind up disliking. The same goes for movies and books. In fact, I just finished reading Cloud Atlas a few days back and didn't care for it at all. That doesn't mean I am going to email the writer and demand it be changed. To demand that Bioware change the game so that its more in line with what you expected or wanted....well, it just reaks of immaturity and self righteousness and I am extremely thankful that Bioware stuck to their guns and didn't wind up changing anything. Yes, they did release the extended cut but that didn't change anything, it just hashed things out and made it easer to understand. Had they gone back and changed the story or game would have set a terrible precedence in this industry. 

It really is a shame that a lot of the members of this forum didn't like ME3. I can only imagine how bummed I would have been had I not liked it myself. That said, Bioware doesn't owe anyone anything. Its their story to tell and they did just that. If you didn't like it then you didn't like it. accept it and move on. Demanding that they change it, so that you can like it , is nothing short of childish. Its just not how the world of storytelling works. If thats how you want things to be then go and write your own story. You can then do whatever you want with it. 

lol. Did you play Mass Effect 1?

[Aezync]

Wip3out wrote...

RighteousNixon wrote...

I loved ME3 the first time I played it, which was during the first week it was released. As soon as I was done, I moved on to other games. I purchased all of the DLC, as Bioware released it, but I never got around to playing any of it. So when I heard that Bioware had released the final DLC package....well, I figured this would be a perfect time to play it again. I could enjoy all of the DLC during my 2nd play through. Anyways, I just finished up that 2nd play through late last night and my opinion remains unchanged. I love ME3! Actually, to say my opinion remains unchanged is not entirely accurate as I actually enjoyed it even more the 2nd time around. All in all, Mass Effect was easily the best gaming experience I have ever had and I cant wait to see where Bioware takes the series next! I am a Mass Effect fan for life!

I am well aware of the fact that a lot of gamers didn't like it and as long as its done in a mature and respectable way, I have no problem with those gamers expressing their opinions on this forum. At the end of the day, its just subjective opinion, nothing more and nothing less. It doesn't matter if there was a poll showing that a million fans hated the game, its still subjective opinion and there is no right or wrong when dealing with subjective opinion, period. So again, I have no problem with it. My biggest issue is the fans that think they are owed something, that Bioware owes them the game or ending that they wanted. I cant even begin to express how utterly absurd this idea is. Imagine the book industry or movie industry if writers or directors had to change the content, after it had been released, to try and appease some of the fans. Star Wars fans hated episode 1 yet did George go back and change the film? I think not. If you didn't like ME3 than you didn't like ME3. Guess what, thats life!! Every year I play games that I ultimately wind up disliking. The same goes for movies and books. In fact, I just finished reading Cloud Atlas a few days back and didn't care for it at all. That doesn't mean I am going to email the writer and demand it be changed. To demand that Bioware change the game so that its more in line with what you expected or wanted....well, it just reaks of immaturity and self righteousness and I am extremely thankful that Bioware stuck to their guns and didn't wind up changing anything. Yes, they did release the extended cut but that didn't change anything, it just hashed things out and made it easer to understand. Had they gone back and changed the story or game would have set a terrible precedence in this industry. 

It really is a shame that a lot of the members of this forum didn't like ME3. I can only imagine how bummed I would have been had I not liked it myself. That said, Bioware doesn't owe anyone anything. Its their story to tell and they did just that. If you didn't like it then you didn't like it. accept it and move on. Demanding that they change it, so that you can like it , is nothing short of childish. Its just not how the world of storytelling works. If thats how you want things to be then go and write your own story. You can then do whatever you want with it. 

+1000000 and to add to your last paragraph, If they change the ending for the people who dislike it, the people who like it will become unhappy.

Yes, the < 5% of people will be unhappy, or grow a consciense and enjoy a real ending.

[Gerudan]

Titus Thongger wrote...

people really need to stop crying over the endings and move on with their lives. good grief

Well, it took me about a year to get over the end, in terms of playing ME3 (or any ME for that matter) again. For someone, who can't even remember how many times he played through ME1 and 2, this is not a small thing. 

I still don't like the ending as it is and I never will, but at least I don't hate it anymore. 

[RighteousNixon]

Aezync wrote...

RighteousNixon wrote...

I loved ME3 the first time I played it, which was during the first week it was released. As soon as I was done, I moved on to other games. I purchased all of the DLC, as Bioware released it, but I never got around to playing any of it. So when I heard that Bioware had released the final DLC package....well, I figured this would be a perfect time to play it again. I could enjoy all of the DLC during my 2nd play through. Anyways, I just finished up that 2nd play through late last night and my opinion remains unchanged. I love ME3! Actually, to say my opinion remains unchanged is not entirely accurate as I actually enjoyed it even more the 2nd time around. All in all, Mass Effect was easily the best gaming experience I have ever had and I cant wait to see where Bioware takes the series next! I am a Mass Effect fan for life!

I am well aware of the fact that a lot of gamers didn't like it and as long as its done in a mature and respectable way, I have no problem with those gamers expressing their opinions on this forum. At the end of the day, its just subjective opinion, nothing more and nothing less. It doesn't matter if there was a poll showing that a million fans hated the game, its still subjective opinion and there is no right or wrong when dealing with subjective opinion, period. So again, I have no problem with it. My biggest issue is the fans that think they are owed something, that Bioware owes them the game or ending that they wanted. I cant even begin to express how utterly absurd this idea is. Imagine the book industry or movie industry if writers or directors had to change the content, after it had been released, to try and appease some of the fans. Star Wars fans hated episode 1 yet did George go back and change the film? I think not. If you didn't like ME3 than you didn't like ME3. Guess what, thats life!! Every year I play games that I ultimately wind up disliking. The same goes for movies and books. In fact, I just finished reading Cloud Atlas a few days back and didn't care for it at all. That doesn't mean I am going to email the writer and demand it be changed. To demand that Bioware change the game so that its more in line with what you expected or wanted....well, it just reaks of immaturity and self righteousness and I am extremely thankful that Bioware stuck to their guns and didn't wind up changing anything. Yes, they did release the extended cut but that didn't change anything, it just hashed things out and made it easer to understand. Had they gone back and changed the story or game would have set a terrible precedence in this industry. 

It really is a shame that a lot of the members of this forum didn't like ME3. I can only imagine how bummed I would have been had I not liked it myself. That said, Bioware doesn't owe anyone anything. Its their story to tell and they did just that. If you didn't like it then you didn't like it. accept it and move on. Demanding that they change it, so that you can like it , is nothing short of childish. Its just not how the world of storytelling works. If thats how you want things to be then go and write your own story. You can then do whatever you want with it. 

lol. Did you play Mass Effect 1?

Played all 3 games, multiple times. If you want specifics, I played the first game 3 times, the 2nd game 3 times, and the final game 2 times. Anything else you want to know? By the way, using a lol at the beginning of a post doesn't make someone look witty. It just makes them look childish. 

Modifié par RighteousNixon, 12 mars 2013 - 06:04 .

[RighteousNixon]

Yes, the < 5% of people will be unhappy, or grow a consciense and enjoy a real ending.

Please stop trying to pretend you know what percentage of gamers enjoyed the ending or didn't enjoy the ending. It just makes for a ridiculous argument, based on nothing but opinion and speculation. Sorry for the interruption. You may continue trying to insult and belittle those whose opinions differ from your own.

Modifié par RighteousNixon, 12 mars 2013 - 05:28 .

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RighteousNixon wrote...

Aezync wrote...

RighteousNixon wrote...

I loved ME3 the first time I played it, which was during the first week it was released. As soon as I was done, I moved on to other games. I purchased all of the DLC, as Bioware released it, but I never got around to playing any of it. So when I heard that Bioware had released the final DLC package....well, I figured this would be a perfect time to play it again. I could enjoy all of the DLC during my 2nd play through. Anyways, I just finished up that 2nd play through late last night and my opinion remains unchanged. I love ME3! Actually, to say my opinion remains unchanged is not entirely accurate as I actually enjoyed it even more the 2nd time around. All in all, Mass Effect was easily the best gaming experience I have ever had and I cant wait to see where Bioware takes the series next! I am a Mass Effect fan for life!

I am well aware of the fact that a lot of gamers didn't like it and as long as its done in a mature and respectable way, I have no problem with those gamers expressing their opinions on this forum. At the end of the day, its just subjective opinion, nothing more and nothing less. It doesn't matter if there was a poll showing that a million fans hated the game, its still subjective opinion and there is no right or wrong when dealing with subjective opinion, period. So again, I have no problem with it. My biggest issue is the fans that think they are owed something, that Bioware owes them the game or ending that they wanted. I cant even begin to express how utterly absurd this idea is. Imagine the book industry or movie industry if writers or directors had to change the content, after it had been released, to try and appease some of the fans. Star Wars fans hated episode 1 yet did George go back and change the film? I think not. If you didn't like ME3 than you didn't like ME3. Guess what, thats life!! Every year I play games that I ultimately wind up disliking. The same goes for movies and books. In fact, I just finished reading Cloud Atlas a few days back and didn't care for it at all. That doesn't mean I am going to email the writer and demand it be changed. To demand that Bioware change the game so that its more in line with what you expected or wanted....well, it just reaks of immaturity and self righteousness and I am extremely thankful that Bioware stuck to their guns and didn't wind up changing anything. Yes, they did release the extended cut but that didn't change anything, it just hashed things out and made it easer to understand. Had they gone back and changed the story or game would have set a terrible precedence in this industry. 

It really is a shame that a lot of the members of this forum didn't like ME3. I can only imagine how bummed I would have been had I not liked it myself. That said, Bioware doesn't owe anyone anything. Its their story to tell and they did just that. If you didn't like it then you didn't like it. accept it and move on. Demanding that they change it, so that you can like it , is nothing short of childish. Its just not how the world of storytelling works. If thats how you want things to be then go and write your own story. You can then do whatever you want with it. 

lol. Did you play Mass Effect 1?

Played all 3 games, multiple times. If you want specifics, I played the first game 3 times, the 2nd game 3 times, and the final game 2 times. Anything else you want to know? By the way, using a lol at the beginning of a post doesn't make someone look witty. It just makes them look childish. 

lol. One acroynm can ruin someone's day. 

Anyway, it's surprising that you liked the ending to ME3, despite it being against previous ME trends (please don't ask for evidence, just look at what choices you can make throughout each game until Priority Earth).

This thread wasn't even about the ending. I guess you didn't read it.

Also, the percentage I gave was a little exagerated. But only a little. There is a multitude of evidence, ranging from internet to tangible sources: polls,videos,essays and petitions/protests which support how suckish the ending was, and they, the efforts themselves, greatly outnumber the minute percentage of players that enjoyed the ending. That should tell the developers something, at least.