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[gw2005]

 As per title. Just look at how popular this is. And that's just the armour. But I know, and seeing how it took 8 years for the WOW to introduce the Pandaria expension, it's understandable, I mean, there's lots of room to expand on without having to resort to introducing entire new continents into the game (I'm guessing that's what would be required). Thoughts?

but NO more samurais please:pinched:

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As of page 11 everyone is talking about what's 'black' and whether this and this character is black enough. That wasn't what this thread was about originally, but I was just browsing through BSN and then this came up:Good Game Feature - Racial Representations in Games
I think this really sums up the problem people are discussing. I was originally talking about bringing in more cultural influences to the game, more specifically in the form of new races or nations (if humanoid). Since, obviously, DA isn't set on Earth. But at the heart of this, perhaps the video link is what the people are really talking about, or want to talk about.

Modifié par gw2005, 08 mars 2013 - 02:14 .

[Fredward]

Eh. I haven't particularly missed them. And if it's a choice of introducing an Asian themed continent vs expanding on Tevinter and Orlais I'd choose the latter every time.

[thats1evildude]

"Oceanic"? You mean like Oceania from 1984?

If you want a picture of the future, imagine a templar's boot stamping on a mage's face — forever.

Modifié par thats1evildude, 25 février 2013 - 06:08 .

[gw2005]

thats1evildude wrote...

"Oceanic"? You mean like Oceania from 1984?

If you want a picture of the future, imagine a templar's boot stamping on a mage's face — forever.

LOL I can make a whole nother thread about that.
nono, i meant the polynesians.

[horacethegrey]

Eh... I'd rather keep non European cultures out of the picture, unless further East of Thedas lies the Jade Empire. 

[a12boom]

Africa's current culture is participating in white genocide in the south region of the continent, killing each other in Rwanda, and forcing people to submit to Islam...no thank you. But if you meant fesitivals, armor, architecture...not much, really. Asian culture is much more my style.

I would prefer if we stuck with Orlais and the Tevinter Imperium then move up the map.

Modifié par a12boom, 25 février 2013 - 06:29 .

[Androme]

a12boom wrote...

Africa's current culture is participating in white genocide in the south region of the continent, killing each other in Rwanda, and forcing people to submit to Islam...no thank you. But if you meant fesitivals, armor, architecture...not much, really. Asian culture is much more my style.

I would prefer if we stuck with Orlais and the Tevinter Imperium then move up the map.

This

[a12boom]

Androme wrote...

a12boom wrote...

Africa's current culture is participating in white genocide in the south region of the continent, killing each other in Rwanda, and forcing people to submit to Islam...no thank you. But if you meant fesitivals, armor, architecture...not much, really. Asian culture is much more my style.

I would prefer if we stuck with Orlais and the Tevinter Imperium then move up the map.

This

I hope my post doesn't get deleted.

[Plaintiff]

a12boom wrote...

Africa's current culture is participating in white genocide in the south region of the continent, killing each other in Rwanda, and forcing people to submit to Islam...no thank you. But if you meant fesitivals, armor, architecture...not much, really. Asian culture is much more my style.

I would prefer if we stuck with Orlais and the Tevinter Imperium then move up the map.

Yeah, why can't South Africans be civilized like those North Koreans?

Wait a minute, what does any of this have to do with Dragon Age and the imaginary cultures of Thedas?

Personally, I would love to see the world expanded in future installments. We have to go beyond Thedas eventually.

Modifié par Plaintiff, 25 février 2013 - 07:06 .

[Nomadiac]

a12boom wrote...

Africa's current culture is participating in white genocide in the south region of the continent, killing each other in Rwanda, and forcing people to submit to Islam...no thank you. But if you meant fesitivals, armor, architecture...not much, really. Asian culture is much more my style.

I would prefer if we stuck with Orlais and the Tevinter Imperium then move up the map.

This is going to end well.

[Zered]

The Qunari are based on the Ottoman Empire right? Can't get more Asian/Middle Eastern thatn that me thinks.

[Blazomancer]

If time and resources permit it, then why not? Even if not in DA3, then perhaps in future installments. Imagine a fictional ethnic group inspired by say the samurai or egyptian culture. Exploring different cultures from all around the globe can only be a good thing providing us with exciting insights into the traditions, art, architecture, and festivals of our fellow earthlings. If the developers decide to do that in DA3 or perhaps at some point later, I'll be quite interested. So, yes please.

[Fredward]

a12boom wrote...

Africa's current culture is participating in white genocide in the south region of the continent, killing each other in Rwanda, and forcing people to submit to Islam...no thank you. But if you meant fesitivals, armor, architecture...not much, really. Asian culture is much more my style.

I would prefer if we stuck with Orlais and the Tevinter Imperium then move up the map.

Um... what?

[Neoleviathan]

gw2005 wrote...

thats1evildude wrote...

"Oceanic"? You mean like Oceania from 1984?

If you want a picture of the future, imagine a templar's boot stamping on a mage's face — forever.

LOL I can make a whole nother thread about that.
nono, i meant the polynesians.

Well the Tranquil did seem to have a strong 1984/We vibe to me, definently interesting seeing themes from fiction like that in fantasy like Dragon Age.

I'd like to see what kindof twist Bioware might give to any additions. I believe they're planning on a few more titles in the series, so odds may be in favor of a new race & we'll probably atleast see new cultures as the series expands. They might develope a culture or even a new race inspired by a real world. Project Eternity had that concept of a archer dwarf, she looked very much like she could have been inspired by a Native American or some earlier European tribe. Its not Bioware, but serves as an example of what could be done. I think an African inspired race would make the most sense, becuase they are right next to Europe. Theres bound to be some interesting folklore & history there due for a retelling.

Modifié par Neoleviathan, 25 février 2013 - 07:59 .

[jillabender]

Foopydoopydoo wrote...

a12boom wrote...

Africa's current culture is participating in white genocide in the south region of the continent, killing each other in Rwanda, and forcing people to submit to Islam...no thank you. But if you meant fesitivals, armor, architecture...not much, really. Asian culture is much more my style.

I would prefer if we stuck with Orlais and the Tevinter Imperium then move up the map.

Um... what?

I have to agree that it's bizarre to talk about Africa as though it has one monolithic culture.

Returning to the topic at hand, I think it's very refreshing to see fantasy settings that look beyond European history for inspiration, and I think it would be great to see a wider range of cultural influences in Dragon Age.

[gw2005]

horacethegrey wrote...

Eh... I'd rather keep non European cultures out of the picture, unless further East of Thedas lies the Jade Empire. 

My thought exactly lol. (Jade Empire that is.) But please, if going to implement Asian cultures, no more samurais, it's so over done it's practically more American than Japanese. More than half the world's population lives in East + South Asia, there's more to Asian than Japanese.

Also, Asians in western games tends to look ugly and unnatural. Adressing that issue will be much appreciated.

a12boom wrote...

Africa's current culture is participating in white genocide in the south region of the continent, killing each other in Rwanda, and forcing people to submit to Islam...no thank you. But if you meant fesitivals, armor, architecture...not much, really. Asian culture is much more my style.

I would prefer if we stuck with Orlais and the Tevinter Imperium then move up the map.

dafuq

Modifié par gw2005, 25 février 2013 - 07:35 .

[iOnlySignIn]

There is no Asia in Dragon Age, nor should there be. The universe is an allegory of medieval Europe.

[Bfler]

gw2005 wrote...

My thought exactly lol. (Jade Empire that is.) But please, if going to implement Asian cultures, no more samurais, it's so over done it's practically more American than Japanese. More than half the world's population lives in East + South Asia, there's more to Asian than Japanese.

Hm, Tibetan monk kung fu maybe, but that would be a risk, because it could cause a prohibition of the game in china.
Or Shaolin kung fu.

Modifié par Bfler, 25 février 2013 - 07:41 .

[RaenImrahl]

Okay, enough, please. The original poster is talking about aesthetic influence. Leave real-world politics out of it. To quote the forum rules:

"These forums are not for discussing other topics such as politics, sex or adult topics, religion, etc."

So don't. Let's get this discussion back on topic. I don't want @a12boom's comment to derail this discussion, but if all people are going to do is comment on this, then we'll go ahead and lock this thread.

Thank you,

RI

[Plaintiff]

iOnlySignIn wrote...

There is no Asia in Dragon Age, nor should there be. The universe is an allegory of medieval Europe.

You know, it's the darnedest thing, but universes typically have more than one continent in them.

[Chaos Lord Malek]

I think it was Mike Ladilaw ( or Gaider), that already said there will be no such thing - no asian, african or indian influence. He explain this, that they created a world very closely based off the medieval Europe, and such influences wouldn't fit the setting.

[Plaintiff]

Obviously there are cultures in the world with a non-European influence, though. The Qunari came from somewhere.

Modifié par Plaintiff, 25 février 2013 - 08:41 .

[Zerker]

We have British, French, Byzantine and Ottoman. An East Asian(Chinese?) culture added to this pot would make it quite more fun in my opinion, interactions would be interesting to watch.

[Han Shot First]

iOnlySignIn wrote...

There is no Asia in Dragon Age, nor should there be. The universe is an allegory of medieval Europe.

Medieval Europe had plenty of contant with cultures and civilizations who were neither Christian or European. Parts of Spain and Portugal were occupied by Moors until driven out during the successful conclusion of the Reconquista, and European Christians warred with both Arabs and Turks in the Levant and Asia Minor. Mongols also warred with the Polish and Hungarians, and the Crusaders considered allying with the Mongols who later sacked Baghdad.

Marco Polo also visited China and the court of Kublai Khan in the 1290s, and many of the cities of Italy would have been filled with merchants throughout the Mediterrenean during times of peace, including Arabs.

During the Crusades an Ethiopian diplomatic mission was sent to both to the Pope in Rome, and to the Antipope at Avignon, seeking to build a joint military alliance against Muslims in Egypt. Ethiopian monks and pilgrims also weren't an uncommon sight in Jerusalem during the Crusader period, and they maintained an annex at the Church of the Holy Sepulchre.

Just because Thedas is very loosely based on Medieval Europe, doesn't mean that Bioware must avoid having characters who don't seem to be based on Europeans. Medieval Europe wasn't an island that was cut off from the rest of the world.

Modifié par Han Shot First, 25 février 2013 - 09:24 .