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[gw2005]

 As per title. Just look at how popular this is. And that's just the armour. But I know, and seeing how it took 8 years for the WOW to introduce the Pandaria expension, it's understandable, I mean, there's lots of room to expand on without having to resort to introducing entire new continents into the game (I'm guessing that's what would be required). Thoughts?

but NO more samurais please:pinched:

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As of page 11 everyone is talking about what's 'black' and whether this and this character is black enough. That wasn't what this thread was about originally, but I was just browsing through BSN and then this came up:Good Game Feature - Racial Representations in Games
I think this really sums up the problem people are discussing. I was originally talking about bringing in more cultural influences to the game, more specifically in the form of new races or nations (if humanoid). Since, obviously, DA isn't set on Earth. But at the heart of this, perhaps the video link is what the people are really talking about, or want to talk about.

Modifié par gw2005, 08 mars 2013 - 02:14 .

[David Gaider]

Four things:

1) Thedas is not Europe. It's vaguely based on medieval Europe-- and, while I can see why some people would like more fantasy based on things other than medieval Europe (and I approve-- heck, we did Jade Empire after all), it is and the setting is already created. Making direct comparisons to "it was like this in European history", however, and trying to say that means it should also be like this in Thedas is not going to hold much weight. Dragon Age is not a historical simulation.

2) That said, there were black people in Europe. Depending on which era you look at, in fact, there were potentially a lot of them. Thedas also has Rivain, which is roughly analogous to medieval Spain... but I wouldn't try to stretch the comparison too hard.

3) We've said previously that we'd like to have more ethnic variation in Dragon Age. Our previous engine couldn't do very dark skin tones very well, but with that fact changed it's something we'd like to include. Rivain does exist, like I said, and while they're not the most populous country their people are not exactly barred into their cities. We're going to include them where they make sense, and thankfully there are indeed places where they make sense. It's perfectly reasonable for people to ask for more of this-- it's not about "political correctness" so much as not making the default white in every single instance just because nobody thought it could maybe be otherwise.

4) All that said, trying to squeeze every real-world ethnicity onto one continent simply isn't going to happen. There are, however, places in Dragon Age other than the continent of Thedas... should we ever go to those places, one should expect to see other sorts of people there. And there's nothing stopping the occasional traveler from far away coming into the game for plot reasons, though that's going to be exceptional simply because traffic between the continents is not exactly great. If it was, you'd expect people to be talking about "the lands beyond Thedas" a trifle more, wouldn't you? That could, however, always change.

How people look in the game is really more the Art department's province than Writing's, but we have input on the subject (and a degree of influence over the context). Ultimately this is something you're simply going to have to wait and see on, and we'll show what we mean. Beyond that, however, like I said above there's really no reason to slam anyone who asks for more representation in fantasy. It's a big place.

Modifié par David Gaider, 25 février 2013 - 04:47 .

[David Gaider]

rolson00 wrote...
@David Gaider yes I agree with you, I suggested in my first comment introducing ethnic people via the Tevinter imperium as slaves, is that feasible?

I think I'd prefer to avoid the implication that extra-continental ethnic groups are automatically enslaved whenever they encounter Thedosian white people-- there's no reason they couldn't have a powerful culture of their own, albeit far off-- but with regards to lone stragglers, I suppose it's possible. Even so, I'm uncertain I'd use that as an introduction for an entirely new culture.

[David Gaider]

Sorry, but we're not really talking about DA anymore, are we? The thread has apparently devolved into a discussion of semantics-- time to take it elsewhere, please.