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#26
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BirdsallSa wrote...

Asch Lavigne wrote...

I am perfectly fine with it.

I am also fine with people who wanted Shep to live.

I am not not fine with people who talk like Shep living would fix the ending when the Starbrat is what makes the ending ridiculous.

Honestly, I thought The Intelligence was one of the best, if not the best part of the trilogy. I can still remember the first time I played the game. I was on the edge of my seat after the unexpected confrontation with the Illusive Man. One of my favorite characters dies with me helpless to stop it, and now the Crucible isn't firing. When the Citadel elevator took Shepard up to meet the Intelligence, that had to be one of the most awe inspiring moments I'd ever experienced in a game, or ever, really.


god I hope you are a troll.

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BirdsallSa wrote...

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Shepard's fate is still undecided.

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In my playthrough Shep killed all the Reapers, got the geth caught in the crossfire as a bonus and lived to tell the tale.

Quite satisfied.

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I'm undecided what I feel about Shepard's fate.... I waiting for the final DLC to decide on this... I actually believe BW when they it won't affect the endings.. but maybe this council archives thing will turn up a few surprises and add a bit of context like Levi...

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The first time I played I was disappointed.

After the EC I was okay imagining that my friends/LI/crew were coming back for me and that I wasn't left to rot in the rubble.

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I picked destroy.
I have a high EMS (I should see a doctor...lol).

Seeing Liara (my cannon LI) smile as she refuses to put Shepard's name on the memorial wall and then seeing the breath scene confirmed for me that Shepard is alive. Because of this, I am happy.

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Kaidan Fan wrote...

The first time I played I was disappointed.

After the EC I was okay imagining that my friends/LI/crew were coming back for me and that I wasn't left to rot in the rubble.


Yep, this too.

My 1st time, I had to go back and do it again since I was confused on how to select my ending.  I ran straight into the beam (since everything up to that point was "walk forward"; the beam, the TIM chamber). Imagine my confusion when I saw green eyes and circuit overlays. LOL.

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Master Che wrote...

I picked destroy.
I have a high EMS (I should see a doctor...lol).

Seeing Liara (my cannon LI) smile as she refuses to put Shepard's name on the memorial wall and then seeing the breath scene confirmed for me that Shepard is alive. Because of this, I am happy.

there is word of god too...

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DinoSteve wrote...

BirdsallSa wrote...

Asch Lavigne wrote...

I am perfectly fine with it.

I am also fine with people who wanted Shep to live.

I am not not fine with people who talk like Shep living would fix the ending when the Starbrat is what makes the ending ridiculous.

Honestly, I thought The Intelligence was one of the best, if not the best part of the trilogy. I can still remember the first time I played the game. I was on the edge of my seat after the unexpected confrontation with the Illusive Man. One of my favorite characters dies with me helpless to stop it, and now the Crucible isn't firing. When the Citadel elevator took Shepard up to meet the Intelligence, that had to be one of the most awe inspiring moments I'd ever experienced in a game, or ever, really.


god I hope you are a troll.


Maybe if Shep had been a Quarian or Humans created the Geth I could have bought the whole "its really about organics vs synthetics" twist.

This meme nails the rest of the stupidity nicely:
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I want my Shepard safely out of the rubble. Dying is overrated.

Modifié par lament.ballad, 25 février 2013 - 04:49 .


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I don't understand why Destroy and Synthesis require Shepard's death. Yes, I know that Destroy can have an alternate ending with high enough EMS, but the readiness of the galaxy shouldn't dictate whether Shepard gets buried under some rubble when he's not near the dogfight.

With all the bodies laying around, I don't see why Shepard needs to throw himself into the beam to supply genetic material and energy. Hell, haven't the reapers already harvested millions of that ****?

The death in Control makes some sense to me. I see it as Project Overlord on a massive scale, which would probably warrant the death of Shepard as we know it. Not sure why his body needed to be disintegrated though.

Modifié par Ykulnu, 25 février 2013 - 04:53 .


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I thought the EC provided much better closure with control and synthesis, especially with control because it's Commander Shepard's voice that we hear and we also see Shepard walking in bright light. That's our last image of Shepard -- one of victory and triumph. Synthesis doesn't offer one final look at our Shepard (recall that the end of ME1, we got to see our Shepard standing in front of a red/blue planet while cocking a rifle while the music played), but we do see the aftermath. Destroy is the most ambiguous and unsatisfying. Everyone is trying to pick up the pieces from there on and the breath scene is the last time we see Shepard, all broken and battered. Did Shepard live or was that the last gasp? Oh, hey, it's up to our head-canon. We have to be told outside of the game, via twitters, that the LI allegedly believes Shepard is alive and the crew is actually going to go find Shepard. It's a terrible way to end the game, especially for the only ending where Shepard lives. It would have been much more appropriate to have Shepard be the one to put Anderson's name on the memorial wall while Hackett does his voice over. Shepard could have looked out the window (just like ME2's ending) and we would have gotten one last triumphant look at Shepard.

Overall I'm pleased that my Shepard can live, but the mechanics are just irritating.

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BirdsallSa wrote...

DoomsdayDevice wrote...

Shepard's fate is still undecided.

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no just kidding ... he/she may not have decided, how his/her 'high ems destroy'-shepards fate will look like.


on topic.

shepards fate is clear in 3 out of 4 endings - certain death or reaperification. one case is totally unclear and i feel frustrated about that. bioware had the balls to kill shepard but not to let him/her live? ...

Modifié par Dr_Extrem, 25 février 2013 - 04:57 .


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Bitter, you either submit to the Reapers will and die committing one out of two atrocities or commit genocide to an ally to prove him right, or try and fight him and prove him he's wrong and cause your death and everyone else death too. Oh the kicker.. they plagiarize the hell out of Deus Ex Invisible War endings.Yes the same company that touted they have artistic integrity went ahead and nearly copy and pasted another game's concept for it's ending. Unlike the A.I. in Deus Ex though our A.I. turns out to be the homicidal maniac that controls the Reapers and it thought it was solving a problem we already solved at Rannoch by:

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Then it proceeds to offer no evidence to back up it's claims while Shepard does absolutely nothing to counter his arguments even though he had ample amount of evidence to prove him wrong. And
it's expect us to kill our selves base solely on his word. Sure there was some evidence for destroy by the codex and the War Assets screen, but for control and synthesis their is nothing. Cero, Zero, Zip, None. At this point the lead writer should stay on the short bus where it belongs.

Player's who Shepard's believe A.I.'s that are nothing more than toasters have it easy. I envy them, but I watch too many Science Fictions shows and movies that stars Artificial Intelligence not to consider them equals... Unless you're Hal 9000, Starbrat, Cylon One, Android 20, 19, 17, or Skynet. I'll kill you the first chance I get.

Look I don't mind sacrifices, but none of those sacrifices in the endings were real. They have no meaning other than to enforce the Reapers own agenda. Hell I would have been okay with an Pyrrhic Victory with leaving Shepard the Normandy and most of the Victory Fleet forces annihilated.

But those who wanted Shepard to live and reunited with their love interest and squad mates should have their endings too the game was more about the characters than anything else. The Reapers were nothing but to drive the plot forward anyway. The only time I was really intimidating by them was Sovereign and the first time I heard Harbinger spoke before he did nothing to back up his threats. The reveal of the catalyst just turn them into a bunch of laughing stocks... Like the Borg Queen ruin the mystique and intimidating nature of the Borg Collective.

We were only giving a few instances where we had to make a hard choice like in Vimire. But the way the Suicide Mission was done we could get it done without a single lost of life. I thought if we came prepared like we did with the Suicide mission we can achieved the same results. But nope we get a mediocre good bye and some of the most inept military tactics known to man. I guess the Alliance took it to heart when Shepard said it wasn't about tactics or strategy. Idiots.

These people spend nearly 200 bucks on three games. They did everything in each game even with all that dreadful boring mineral scans in ME2, deserve a Shepard living with out compromising on his/her morals.... and a Mass Effect Xtreme Beach Volley Ball minigame with all the games females. Except Diana Allers. Her face has too much plastic to consider it a female. And I pretty sure I saw a tent when she was sleeping. Ugh disgusting creature... why the hell I let it on the ship?

But after all this I can be content with one thing.... at least I have chicken.

Modifié par Galbrant, 25 février 2013 - 04:59 .


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DinoSteve wrote...

BirdsallSa wrote...

Asch Lavigne wrote...

I am perfectly fine with it.

I am also fine with people who wanted Shep to live.

I am not not fine with people who talk like Shep living would fix the ending when the Starbrat is what makes the ending ridiculous.

Honestly, I thought The Intelligence was one of the best, if not the best part of the trilogy. I can still remember the first time I played the game. I was on the edge of my seat after the unexpected confrontation with the Illusive Man. One of my favorite characters dies with me helpless to stop it, and now the Crucible isn't firing. When the Citadel elevator took Shepard up to meet the Intelligence, that had to be one of the most awe inspiring moments I'd ever experienced in a game, or ever, really.

god I hope you are a troll.

As I've heard, BirdsallSa is actually an IT adherent. So, yes - it is trolling. Very persistent trolling.

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Ben20530 wrote...
I would have loved Shep to have lived and borne the pain of his decisions over three games, that kind of bittersweet I can appreciate,....


Somewhere along these lines.

But also...

The feeling that all the possible outcomes are not what you´d have expected or wished for, just as life tends to hand you whatever stick it pleases with a shrug is not a bad one in my opinion. Do what you will, these are your options atm and have a nice day.

It´s fine to let the veteran rest after constantly performing the impossible as a signature MO (though these are my thoughts now, when my headcanon has had time to fill in the blanks - at the time I was confused by what seemed to be an abrupt ending, not enough info and that made me feel somewhat impotent in deciding the best course to choose, for the rest of the galaxy no less=]).

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Raddx Fusion wrote...

So my question to everyone is, regardless of your opinions on the ending, focusing solely on Shepard's fate, were you pleased with the fact that your Shepard either lived (open to interpretation in destroy) or died.


There are things I thought could have been done better, but this particular part was just fine.

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DeinonSlayer wrote...

DinoSteve wrote...

BirdsallSa wrote...

Asch Lavigne wrote...
I am perfectly fine with it.

I am also fine with people who wanted Shep to live.

I am not not fine with people who talk like Shep living would fix the ending when the Starbrat is what makes the ending ridiculous.

Honestly, I thought The Intelligence was one of the best, if not the best part of the trilogy. I can still remember the first time I played the game. I was on the edge of my seat after the unexpected confrontation with the Illusive Man. One of my favorite characters dies with me helpless to stop it, and now the Crucible isn't firing. When the Citadel elevator took Shepard up to meet the Intelligence, that had to be one of the most awe inspiring moments I'd ever experienced in a game, or ever, really.

god I hope you are a troll.

As I've heard, BirdsallSa is actually an IT adherent. So, yes - it is trolling. Very persistent trolling.


And high-quality trolling too.Something we don't get very much of here, so I m grateful.

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I personally think that the whole "breath scene could mean he died" argument is a bit ... I don't know...weak?

Kinda like saying "Sure...uh...yeah, why not". LOL. Whatever makes people less pissed off.

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Master Che wrote...

Kaidan Fan wrote...

The first time I played I was disappointed.

After the EC I was okay imagining that my friends/LI/crew were coming back for me and that I wasn't left to rot in the rubble.


Yep, this too.

My 1st time, I had to go back and do it again since I was confused on how to select my ending.  I ran straight into the beam (since everything up to that point was "walk forward"; the beam, the TIM chamber). Imagine my confusion when I saw green eyes and circuit overlays. LOL.


I had no such confusion.  In the original endings the catalyst says the first choice is destroy and I was like "Yep.  That's what I'm doing."  If I could've speeded through the other options I would have because it had always been said to destory them so I just figured the other two options were tricks, lol.

To others:  I didn't like the ambiguity of the destroy ending either.  In fact, I believed Shepard would die in the destroy ending my first play through.  But I am a completionist and very high EMS so I took that breath.  What made me so disppointed was the Normandy.  The relays.  Left in the rubble.  I didn't feel as if I had won.  I missed the feeling of victory of the previous two games.

It's only recently that I finally decided, you know what?  I've always loved ME and after the EC I can imagine Shepard was picked up and reunited with everyone.  So I guess ME and I are back together  :lol:

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Master Che wrote...

I personally think that the whole "breath scene could mean he died" argument is a bit ... I don't know...weak?

Kinda like saying "Sure...uh...yeah, why not". LOL. Whatever makes people less pissed off.


Some people really do prefer that Shepard dies there; sometimes just to wrap up his story, sometimes so he doesn't have to live with guilt. I don't think there are very many of them, but I've seen this sort of thing posted a few times.

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AlanC9 wrote...

Master Che wrote...

I personally think that the whole "breath scene could mean he died" argument is a bit ... I don't know...weak?

Kinda like saying "Sure...uh...yeah, why not". LOL. Whatever makes people less pissed off.


Some people really do prefer that Shepard dies there; sometimes just to wrap up his story, sometimes so he doesn't have to live with guilt. I don't think there are very many of them, but I've seen this sort of thing posted a few times.

First off LOLOLOLOLOL
Second if people really prefer Shepard to die, well then there's no point to the breath scene is there?
It add's no value at all in case he is death.

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Ben20530 wrote...

For me the problem with ending was not what was said, or what wasn't. It was that a story about choice and consequence came down to a decision that felt so linear and disconnected from all that had preceded it that it felt alien to me and therefore my Shep.

ME was so good at feeling like "our" game that it's final choice felt like a betrayal. In some ways this was perhaps unavoidable, as ME was not "ours". That realisation was a devastating one though.


^This

End of DA:O I double fistpumped after finally killing the archdemon in a ~50 hr straight playthrough.....even though my Warden died.

End of ME1 I "Hell Yeah'd" when Shep came waling out of the rubble.

End of ME2 I held my breath.....would Shep malke that leap?!?! "Hell Yeah! and I Saved my crew!"

End of ME3....."Um, what was this? Where is the catharsis to the hero's journey? What's this story muddle-mess?"

I felt that a lot of ME3, not just the ending, took away player agency and control. I liken the cutscenes/autodiologue in ME3 to watching cutscenes in Metal Gear games.

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I kinda derped thinking about it. Too much thinking.

okit'sthelasttimeI'mtryingtobefunnyIpromise

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Asch Lavigne wrote...

I am perfectly fine with it.

I am also fine with people who wanted Shep to live.

I am not not fine with people who talk like Shep living would fix the ending when the Starbrat is what makes the ending ridiculous.