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[jaylovesash]

Neofelis Nebulosa wrote...

jaylovesash wrote...

Neofelis Nebulosa wrote...

Cyonan wrote...

Neofelis Nebulosa wrote...
It was very much a day #1 fan favourite for new kits. Or should I write "day one fan favourite", as apparently my numerical writing is confusing some people as to what I meant.


And no, I think BioWare is in fact a bit silly seing how the Batarians who are anigligible power at best are represented doubled as much compared to one of the most advanced official council powers.

It wasn't even a day 1 request. At best it was requested after the first DLC, but nobody was really requesting more of the vanilla species for the very first DLC(except male Quarians).

Lore has very little to do with the number of each species we've gotten. That entire argument is just silly =P

I know I wanted more Salarians from day one and PMed BioWare about it. I said I would even pay if it were some charged MP Character DLC pack.

As for lore, lore has had little to do with Mass Effect ever since ME2, so yeah, but it still is silly that a major power on military and political terms is left hanging on the thread and everything else happily being thrown at the fans.

Really, more Salarian kits is, or rather was, a no brainer. We got Volus that got the whole community in hick-ups, we now get Collector Thralls which is again getting the entire community in hick-ups.

There is literally NO reason at all as to why BioWare would ignore a playsafe option like this, one that has been asked for no less.

That is silly.

Theres lots of thingsa thta people would class as a no brainer - more maps in my case.

But they cant give everyone everything. Infact were lucky to have got as much DLC as we have out of it.

No matter how much we may complain about what we want, there wont be anymore updates in that regard. I know alot of people wont believe that but ME3 is winding down and theyre concerntrating on the next game.

I would have liked more Salarian characters too but its not gunna happen. So why not accept that and just enjoy what they are bringing out

I know we aren't getting any more. That is exactly why I am complaining, because I can not sit back and tell myself "next DLC we'll get it, next DLC we'll get it".
And the fact that nothing's going to change that fact and I have to accept it is no reason not to complain about it either. It's a rather significant letdown for everyone that wanted more Salarians, so there's all the right to complain.


Or do you purchase a meal right before kitchen closing, get the wrong stuff and then don't complain at all about the faulty delivery just because you ain't going to get the right thing because shop's closed?




I am voicing my opinion, not threatening to level Edmonton/Montreal/Austin should they not release what I want.

Thats my point, I said the same about maps since we havnt had any since what May, but its done and dusted. Yeah you wont get any new characters this game but who's to say about the future. Theres suposed to be another ME game in the pipeline on a Next Gen console. So thats a possibility. Im disapointed about maps and know lots of people have said the same. But you cant have it all. Ofcourse youre free to voice youre disapointed but youll only wind yourself up so whats the point?

Youre completely missing my point, This DLC is free and youre not paying for it. If you dont want to eat your meal then dont. Go somewhere else. Youre talking like this is the end of the ME universe and its not.

Im not trying to get at ya, just trying to point out that it could be alot worse and theres plenty to be thankful for

[Tal_Elmar]

so, we have FOUR Batarians, FOUR Voluses, and one of the most powerful races in the Galaxy has two kits??? one of them gutted by the decoy nerf?

wow, how cool

[nicethugbert]

Well, it took BW a year to deliver a Krogan with quads so ......

[JediHarbinger]

Yeah dudes.

No more of this they would not fight with the alliance crap.

They were fighting, not at full force but they were so..

BOOM! 

Modifié par JediHarbinger, 25 février 2013 - 07:43 .

[Shepard of Shepards]

Sooo many Krogen, Geth, Vorcha, Batarians, Vouls and Turians.

Salrians are a council race and have 2 kits! I am excited for new stuff but upset with lack of Salarians.

[Happy Shepard]

GroverA125 wrote...

Happy Shepard wrote...

Riot Inducer wrote...

This is really disappointing. Idk, considering all the retaliation kits it seems now like they didn't even give the Salarians a second thought. You could easily switch out one or two powers on a lot of the retaliation kits and made them salarian, I'm pretty sure everyone agrees we didn't need four volus kits. The fact that they didn't even take the time to include a "retaliation quality" (recycled skin/powers) salarian kit in the final DLC is rather insulting all things considered.

Yes. That's why i don't buy the "we didn't have time" excuse.

At least an actual explanation would be nice.

Hate to break it to you, but there is no explanation. Here's some of the possible reasons they could have forgotten them:

1) "We didn't have time" (Clearly wrong, as they've had just under a year and produced over 30 new classes, yet not a single one)
2) "People didn't ask" (again, I've seen requests for Salarian STG soldiers/engineers/infiltrators for months now, before Retaliation was out)
3) "The designer of the Salarians left and we didn't want to ruin them" (has their designer left?)
4) "Salarians didn't play a major role to many players, explaining their abscence" (if that's the case, I'm sure many people forgot to save the Hanar/drell homeworlds, and about 50% of people will have either seen the Geth or Quarians go, but that hasn't stopped them recieving 4 characters minimum each)
5) "people don't like Salarians" (A lot of people don't like Batarians or Volus, didn't stop them adding four of them)

There's literally no viable explanation which doesn't use complete horseradish as a reason. They simply forgot or couldn't be bothered. Can't think of anything else that would float.

That's my point. There was no reason not to add Salarians.

And tbh, the problem is not Reckoning. It was Retaliation. I'm sad and disappointed, but i get it that they wanted to create 6 unique characters.

[Triceratops]

I would have liked the Talon guy to be a salarian but they made him look just like Zaeed so it's kind of hard to complain about it.

[bluebeam]

*sigh* I'd trade 4 volus, 1 sexbot and 1 collector thrall (what a ridiculous concept) to get a new Salarian. The new engineer's powers would have been perfect for him... What a kick in the quad.
Don't get me wrong, the new kits look awesome, but no new salarian since launch when we have new absurd units is just cruel.

[Happy Shepard]

Stephiphany wrote...

I would have liked the Talon guy to be a salarian but they made him look just like Zaeed so it's kind of hard to complain about it.

He's definitely going to be my new favorite. Dat bow.

[xSNPx ZoDiaC]

3XT3RM1N4TUS wrote...

xSNPx ZoDiaC wrote...

 “Salarian; insufficient lifespan, fragile genetic structure.”

Go **** yourself. I am sick of your comments about everyone who disagrees with you being "primitive" and other copy-pasted stuff.

Ha Ha primitive. 


EMBRACE PERFECTION

[J-Reyno]

Cyonan wrote...

If 1 person makes it a day 1 fan request, then pretty much everything is a day 1 fan request so that is a poor argument(and if you're going to say that probably more people than just you wanted Salarians, I'll say the same of everything else).

The major military thing is also a poor argument since using it means that you also need to think that the Turians should make up the bulk of our characters, due to them being the strongest military force by far in the galaxy. Either that or you only feel that the argument should apply to Salarians =P

and this is why I said their excuse doesn't actually matter. You don't think there is a reason for them not being added, and yet they didn't get added.

As I said before, this is just a side effect of adding things that people ask for. They can't possibly do every single thing that was asked for, and when you can't then people get upset, because why should theirs not be added while somebody else's was?

There's not really an answer to that question that'll make people happy.

I do agree that they can't include everything people ask for.. I also agree that no explanation will make people who wanted another Salarian happy.

However, I don't agree that they couldn't have easily compromised on the Salarians, and I wouldn't agree that another Salarian was not a major request of the players. As I said before, the Talon could have easily been a Salarian, and that would have satisfied those asking for a mercenary, and the ones asking for Salarians.  The main reason they weren't added is because BW obviously just didn't care enough personally.  They had plenty of time and resources.  A few of the Retaliation kits could have also been a Salarian, quite easily.

It's just the fact that they purposely passed up the opportunity to grant at least one more representation of a major race that makes it... just really lame.  And lameness happens, unfortunately.

[xSNPx ZoDiaC]

Chameleonbot wrote...

The Talon Merc could have easily of been made to be a Salarian... In fact it would have made more sense with the kit being very heavily tech based with a ranged crossbow and traps.

But I too agree that the "No time" excuse is a blatant lie. I think they just wanted to keep it to one kit for each class.

xSNPx ZoDiaC wrote...

“Salarian; insufficient lifespan, fragile genetic structure.”

Okay dude, we get it.
You get "excited" over Collectors/Protheans/Anything with 4 eyes... You can stop trying to be funny now.

No, the real fun begins now. 

[SOMETHING_FOR_NOTHING]

^ the awaken collector has 6 eyes

[jaylovesash]

Neofelis Nebulosa wrote...

xSNPx ZoDiaC wrote...

Chameleonbot wrote...

The Talon Merc could have easily of been made to be a Salarian... In fact it would have made more sense with the kit being very heavily tech based with a ranged crossbow and traps.

But I too agree that the "No time" excuse is a blatant lie. I think they just wanted to keep it to one kit for each class.

xSNPx ZoDiaC wrote...

“Salarian; insufficient lifespan, fragile genetic structure.”

Okay dude, we get it.
You get "excited" over Collectors/Protheans/Anything with 4 eyes... You can stop trying to be funny now.

No, the real fun begins now. 

Well, not in this thread please, thanks.

lol

[Cyonan]

Neofelis Nebulosa wrote...
Does that mean I am not supposed to be unhappy?

Should I be happy instead: "yay, no new salarians evar, w00tz!"?


If you think that BioWare is fine with not adding new Salarians, fine by me. Your opinion is something I will not contest.
My opinion is however there being no reason not to include Salarians, which is the reason I am being disappointed.


So maybe instead of people negating the reasons why Salarians should be represented some more, how about you come up with reasons why Salarians shouldn't have received some more love.
Because if you get even a single valid reason, then we can continue this line of argumentation. Everything else is just back and forth bickering.

The reason is because they could not possibly have added everything that they wanted to add, or that we wanted them to add. Something had to be chosen to not get added.

Salarians were among them.

There was no reason not to add Salarians beyond that, but you know what?

There was also no reason not to add a Human Merc, female Turian, Geth Prime, EDI-bot, Krogan melee centric character, or Leviathan controlled thrall.

There was also no reason not to add another female Quarian or ex-Cerberus character.

and everything I've mentioned in this post has been something that has been asked for. My whole point is that while there may not have been a reason not to add Salarians, there was no reason that they were more special than any other request from other people(feel free to tell me about how they only have 2 kits, though =P).

If you want this whole discussion to get somewhere, you should tell me why your request should have been any more special than my request(it doesn't really matter what I asked for), or anybody else's request. I already pointed out why the lore angle is a poor argument.

Modifié par Cyonan, 25 février 2013 - 08:01 .

[solidprice]

Chi_Mangetsu wrote...

Meh. 90% of the salarians were opposed to helping Shepard. It was only some of the STG and select individuals that were willing to help. And most of them are better utilized working on the MacGuffin, anyway.

this.
sadly.

[Beerfish]

They should have at least updated or enhanced skills for the existing salarians for sure.

[bluebeam]

Who ever asked for edi-shaped bots? I have never seen such a request. There's only two Salarians since launch and there have been requests to have more of them, while every other race has seen its numbers increase. We have every right to express our displeasure here.

[UEG Donkey]

Neofelis Nebulosa wrote...

Cyonan wrote...

Clearly not making a new kit is equal to hating Salarians.

Well, what reason is there to not make a day #1 fan request that has been literally begged for for a year now? Evidently they had time for lots and lots of completely new designs like the Earth DLC kits, so "no time" isn't a valid excuse.


Excuse me if a bit hyperbole is hurting feelings.

From a lore standpoint Salarians didn't fight themselves, they had other species to do it. 

[nicethugbert]

I wouldn't mind new Salarians.  But, I'm not sure what powers they would have.  I see them as tech, maybe, soldiers, but nothing else.

Beerfish wrote...

They should have at least updated or enhanced skills for the existing salarians for sure.

Agreed.

Modifié par nicethugbert, 25 février 2013 - 08:09 .

[xtorma]

Eterna5 wrote...

THis thread seems kind of whiny.

Kind of?