Happy Shepard wrote...
That was not a hate reply. I was simply calling you out for implying that everybody who doesn't love everything about the DLC is a crybaby and should stop whining.
GroverA125 wrote...
jaylovesash wrote...
Youre not getting my point. Its clear theres things youre not happy about with it.
Theres things im not happy about with it.
All im saying is although may make u feel better voicing your complaints in reality it wont get you anywhere.
So all im saying is not to stress out about it, you'll just burst a blood vessel or something.
Chill abit
Again, you make the mistake that we're all bursting out into rage for no apparent reason. Bioware have said they won't do another MP DLC, this is the last one, but that doesn't mean that it's in vain.
I'm well aware we won't see more Salarians added into ME3 MP, but I'm still here. We're still whining for the same reason that we all stood up and argued over the SP ending when they adamantly said they weren't changing it. It's not about now, it's about tomorrow. Currently, Bioware have had to deal with a PR ****storm around their shoddy work on their part. Next time someone gets up at the development session to suggest something for a new ending (for example ME4), they'll think twice about what the hell they're saying, as they know that we won't like it if they screw us over again.
The same can be applied here. If a lot of people express outrage and disappointment that they imbalanced the racial-class count and left certain races completely for over a year, chances are that they won't do it again without sitting down and REALLY thinking about it. Yes, it doesn't help our situation now, but later it will sure as hell sort a few things out. Picture if we sat down and accepted the endings for what they are, what does that show of us? Other than that we're perfectly fine having rubbish thrown at us and it being called a quality product, instead our actions closed that avenue of practice, making developers think twice before they do something similar.
Because lets be realistic, Bioware, and all game developers at that, wouldn't give a rat's behind about our opinions if we didn't raise our voices about things. Hell, Call of Duty would still have Last Stand and Deathstreaks if people didn't burst a couple of arteries making their point.
Guest_Aotearas_*
JediHarbinger wrote...
Im gonna mourn this day but tomorrow my sorrows for salarians being ignored should subside a bit because lets face it, the dlc looks friggin bad ass despite this huge letdown.
jaylovesash wrote...
GroverA125 wrote...
jaylovesash wrote...
Youre not getting my point. Its clear theres things youre not happy about with it.
Theres things im not happy about with it.
All im saying is although may make u feel better voicing your complaints in reality it wont get you anywhere.
So all im saying is not to stress out about it, you'll just burst a blood vessel or something.
Chill abit
Again, you make the mistake that we're all bursting out into rage for no apparent reason. Bioware have said they won't do another MP DLC, this is the last one, but that doesn't mean that it's in vain.
I'm well aware we won't see more Salarians added into ME3 MP, but I'm still here. We're still whining for the same reason that we all stood up and argued over the SP ending when they adamantly said they weren't changing it. It's not about now, it's about tomorrow. Currently, Bioware have had to deal with a PR ****storm around their shoddy work on their part. Next time someone gets up at the development session to suggest something for a new ending (for example ME4), they'll think twice about what the hell they're saying, as they know that we won't like it if they screw us over again.
The same can be applied here. If a lot of people express outrage and disappointment that they imbalanced the racial-class count and left certain races completely for over a year, chances are that they won't do it again without sitting down and REALLY thinking about it. Yes, it doesn't help our situation now, but later it will sure as hell sort a few things out. Picture if we sat down and accepted the endings for what they are, what does that show of us? Other than that we're perfectly fine having rubbish thrown at us and it being called a quality product, instead our actions closed that avenue of practice, making developers think twice before they do something similar.
Because lets be realistic, Bioware, and all game developers at that, wouldn't give a rat's behind about our opinions if we didn't raise our voices about things. Hell, Call of Duty would still have Last Stand and Deathstreaks if people didn't burst a couple of arteries making their point.
I see your point. yeah we all complained about the SP ending and demanded a alt ending... did we get one??? No we got a more detailed ending. Thats what some wanted and not others.
Im not saying dont express your disapointment or whatever (Im disapointed too) Im just saying there are alot of possitives too (which we also discuss on this site too?) I agree in a sense its constructive feedback and might help with future releases. But the point Im trying to make is dont work yaselves up over it.
For doing that im getting hate replies. Seriously? Cant help that I think even though this DLC has some flaws that I choose to see the good in it. If that offends anyone I apologise. Just trying to get everyone to enjoy themselves abit.
Thats about all. Anyway peace...
Modifié par GroverA125, 25 février 2013 - 09:50 .
GroverA125 wrote...
jaylovesash wrote...
GroverA125 wrote...
jaylovesash wrote...
Youre not getting my point. Its clear theres things youre not happy about with it.
Theres things im not happy about with it.
All im saying is although may make u feel better voicing your complaints in reality it wont get you anywhere.
So all im saying is not to stress out about it, you'll just burst a blood vessel or something.
Chill abit
Again, you make the mistake that we're all bursting out into rage for no apparent reason. Bioware have said they won't do another MP DLC, this is the last one, but that doesn't mean that it's in vain.
I'm well aware we won't see more Salarians added into ME3 MP, but I'm still here. We're still whining for the same reason that we all stood up and argued over the SP ending when they adamantly said they weren't changing it. It's not about now, it's about tomorrow. Currently, Bioware have had to deal with a PR ****storm around their shoddy work on their part. Next time someone gets up at the development session to suggest something for a new ending (for example ME4), they'll think twice about what the hell they're saying, as they know that we won't like it if they screw us over again.
The same can be applied here. If a lot of people express outrage and disappointment that they imbalanced the racial-class count and left certain races completely for over a year, chances are that they won't do it again without sitting down and REALLY thinking about it. Yes, it doesn't help our situation now, but later it will sure as hell sort a few things out. Picture if we sat down and accepted the endings for what they are, what does that show of us? Other than that we're perfectly fine having rubbish thrown at us and it being called a quality product, instead our actions closed that avenue of practice, making developers think twice before they do something similar.
Because lets be realistic, Bioware, and all game developers at that, wouldn't give a rat's behind about our opinions if we didn't raise our voices about things. Hell, Call of Duty would still have Last Stand and Deathstreaks if people didn't burst a couple of arteries making their point.
I see your point. yeah we all complained about the SP ending and demanded a alt ending... did we get one??? No we got a more detailed ending. Thats what some wanted and not others.
Im not saying dont express your disapointment or whatever (Im disapointed too) Im just saying there are alot of possitives too (which we also discuss on this site too?) I agree in a sense its constructive feedback and might help with future releases. But the point Im trying to make is dont work yaselves up over it.
For doing that im getting hate replies. Seriously? Cant help that I think even though this DLC has some flaws that I choose to see the good in it. If that offends anyone I apologise. Just trying to get everyone to enjoy themselves abit.
Thats about all. Anyway peace...
I can agree with that. In the end, it doesn't matter what you say, as long as it's criticism. I understand your point of view, I admit, if they made less Batarians, I probably wouldn't make such a fuss, but as I said, it's sad that a big group of fans were forgotten, and we never got our scientist Salarian who hums Gilbert and Sullivan while performing objectives.
Everyone's entitled to a point of view, but personally I feel that Bioware should have addressed the concerns of the community before going out on a limb. I won't lie, I like the Talon, very much so (he's basically Hawkeye with a crossbow and a gas mask), but it would have been nicer to see them add other content that was requested first before adding things like that. A nice suprise every DLC or so isn't bad, but it should never get in the way of the demand of content from the playerbase.
Modifié par jaylovesash, 25 février 2013 - 09:45 .
Neofelis Nebulosa wrote...
JediHarbinger wrote...
Im gonna mourn this day but tomorrow my sorrows for salarians being ignored should subside a bit because lets face it, the dlc looks friggin bad ass despite this huge letdown.
If only I could.
If only.
Neofelis Nebulosa wrote...
JediHarbinger wrote...
Im gonna mourn this day but tomorrow my sorrows for salarians being ignored should subside a bit because lets face it, the dlc looks friggin bad ass despite this huge letdown.
If only I could.
If only.
Guest_Gangnam Style_*
Riot Inducer wrote...
Darth Brotarian wrote...
Neofelis Nebulosa wrote...
So not only do we get (in my very personal opinion right here) subpar writing when it concerns the Salarians in ME3 and they are arguably the one species with the least screentime ever in the entire ME series, but after a year+ of MP with a community asking and asking and asking for more Salarian kits for MP, we finally got the very definite ultimate answer to our pleas:
Batarians says hi.
Pretty sure the Hanar have even them beat, you see all of two in ME2 and I think three or four in ME3. Still, mechanical issues limit them from being implimented as playable, same with the Elcor.
Modifié par Darth Brotarian, 25 février 2013 - 11:40 .
Guest_Aotearas_*
Darth Brotarian wrote...
Riot Inducer wrote...
Darth Brotarian wrote...
Neofelis Nebulosa wrote...
So not only do we get (in my very personal opinion right here) subpar writing when it concerns the Salarians in ME3 and they are arguably the one species with the least screentime ever in the entire ME series, but after a year+ of MP with a community asking and asking and asking for more Salarian kits for MP, we finally got the very definite ultimate answer to our pleas:
Batarians says hi.
Pretty sure the Hanar have even them beat, you see all of two in ME2 and I think three or four in ME3. Still, mechanical issues limit them from being implimented as playable, same with the Elcor.
The drell helped to expand on hanar culture.
Batarians, all that's know is "We don't know much about them and some are pirate terrorist" What little else is known comes from Me ascension and planet codex entries.
And at the start of ME3, batarians are already severly crippled by the reapers, and their codex still is "we don't know much about them".
At least we got to see salarian politics, have a mission with a salarian, and got to see their homeworld. Plus they have awesome characters like mordin, kirahee, wiks, bau, and many others.
I can name 3 batarians who have ever been shown somewhat promenantly in this series, 2 of them are completly unlikable.
Still, I will say elcor are among the forgotten in ME lore. And I would have liked a salarian kit as well, unfortunatly like a batarian squadmate, the chips simply didn't fall in place for that.
c'est la vie
Guest_Aotearas_*
DJ Airsurfer wrote...
Everyone hates Salarians, except salarians like Mordin and Padok Wiks.
DJ Airsurfer wrote...
Everyone hates Salarians, except salarians like Mordin and Padok Wiks.
Neofelis Nebulosa wrote...
Darth Brotarian wrote...
Riot Inducer wrote...
Darth Brotarian wrote...
Neofelis Nebulosa wrote...
So not only do we get (in my very personal opinion right here) subpar writing when it concerns the Salarians in ME3 and they are arguably the one species with the least screentime ever in the entire ME series, but after a year+ of MP with a community asking and asking and asking for more Salarian kits for MP, we finally got the very definite ultimate answer to our pleas:
Batarians says hi.
Pretty sure the Hanar have even them beat, you see all of two in ME2 and I think three or four in ME3. Still, mechanical issues limit them from being implimented as playable, same with the Elcor.
The drell helped to expand on hanar culture.
Batarians, all that's know is "We don't know much about them and some are pirate terrorist" What little else is known comes from Me ascension and planet codex entries.
And at the start of ME3, batarians are already severly crippled by the reapers, and their codex still is "we don't know much about them".
At least we got to see salarian politics, have a mission with a salarian, and got to see their homeworld. Plus they have awesome characters like mordin, kirahee, wiks, bau, and many others.
I can name 3 batarians who have ever been shown somewhat promenantly in this series, 2 of them are completly unlikable.
Still, I will say elcor are among the forgotten in ME lore. And I would have liked a salarian kit as well, unfortunatly like a batarian squadmate, the chips simply didn't fall in place for that.
c'est la vie
And I demand to see life's manager!
Guest_Aotearas_*
xtorma wrote...
*snip*
no one believes in it anymore.
Neofelis Nebulosa wrote...
DJ Airsurfer wrote...
Everyone hates Salarians, except salarians like Mordin and Padok Wiks.
It is hard for me to respect that statement with the evident lack of Kirrahe. <_<
Guest_Aotearas_*
DSxCallOfBooty- wrote...
Don't worry, ME4 will have a Salarian as the main character.
Modifié par Dreamcleaver, 26 février 2013 - 12:45 .
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