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[Feneckus]

darkpassenger2342 wrote...

you dont see people using the claymore because according to many pc player on the forums, its the best gun in the game and nothing else is even close. who wants to use that?
yet if i use an infiltrator i am using crutches.
the double standard is silly.

The Claymore is definitely not the best gun in the game.

Sexiest ? Most badass ? Most fun ? Most likely to give you an orgasm ? Sure. Best ? No.

It's not versatile at all. It has bad range and is heavy as ****. The Harrier has better DPS, will kill groups a lot quicker, has infinite range, primes ammo effects better and is a lot lighter. It's the perfect gun for basically every single class. Talon too.

The Javelin can one shot phantoms no matter the class, even on a Volus Sentinel.

The Typhoon is a lot better on weapon classes.

To be honest, the Claymore is almost never the best option.

Modifié par Feneckus, 25 février 2013 - 08:59 .

[Colonel Sheppard]

darkpassenger2342 wrote...

you dont see people using the claymore because according to many pc player on the forums, its the best gun in the game and nothing else is even close. who wants to use that?
yet if i use an infiltrator i am using crutches.
the double standard is silly.

Well, not sure who says Claymore is the best.  If you get your timing and aim down, I think the Javelin is better.  Neither is the best.  Personally, I think the PPR is the best, but its probably just a different game style.

[ParkBom]

immanji wrote...

my friend Justicarflareon uses the fury with the claymore!

That, I do.

[Ashen One]

Because the Wraith is better.

[Jay_Hoxtatron]

Prefer the Hurricane myself, but then again I'm not a Fury expert.

[darkpassenger2342]

Feneckus wrote...

darkpassenger2342 wrote...

you dont see people using the claymore because according to many pc player on the forums, its the best gun in the game and nothing else is even close. who wants to use that?
yet if i use an infiltrator i am using crutches.
the double standard is silly.

The Claymore is definitely not the best gun in the game.

Sexiest ? Most badass ? Most fun ? Most likely to give you an orgasm ? Sure. Best ? No.

It's not versatile at all. It has bad range and is heavy as ****. The Harrier has better DPS, will kill groups a lot quicker, has infinite range and is a lot lighter. It's the perfect gun for basically every single class. Talon too.

The Javelin can one shot phantoms no matter the class, even on a Volus Sentinel.

The Typhoon is a lot better on weapon classes.

To be honest, the Claymore is almost never the best option.

in that case could you at least agree the claymore ass kissing is a little extreme lol?

i dont mean from you, i mean in general.

Tall tales are causing claymore disdain

its really not helping people like the gun more.

Modifié par darkpassenger2342, 25 février 2013 - 09:01 .

[Deerber]

underm1nd wrote...

Deerber wrote...
Haha you think that close is suicide? 

The fury can survive perfectly in the exact face of the enemy. Feneckus plays her much more at range than I, and lots of other guys, do...

Uhm as i said many players dont have the skill to do it and just fyi probably more than 90% of the playerbase lacks the skill to even play gold with whatever character they want wich speaks alot... Aaand also i myself said id try it didnt i?

I'm sorry, I didn't mean to come out aggressive,mean or anything. Just wanted to point out that she can be played much more in close than how Feneckus does. But yeah you're right, sometimes I tend to forget that most of the players around this game are not even aware of the fundamental mechanics. Ah, pugs...

Anyway, hope you can find a way to make her work for you and improve as a player overall. After all, it's one of the most satisfactory things in this game, I'd say 

[Zjarcal]

Oh gawd yes, let's put the Claymore on EVERYTHING and eliminate any sense of variety in the game.

[GallowsPole]

A fine thread to have BW fix reload cancelling.

[MP-Ryan]

I am going to cackle when Shotgun ULM and EDI get the claymore nerfed. Not because I hate it or because it's a bad weapon, but because I am so tired of the Claymore>all crowd insisting that it can or should be used on every character. Enough already! Yes, sure it can be used on a Fury but the Claymore is one of the most boring weapons in the entire game, so who wants to?

I've stripped the Claymore off all my characters because powers are so much more interesting than weapons in this game, despite the shooty elements constantly outshining them.

The Claymore is a shining example of how badly the weapons balancing can be in this game. Not enough people use it to warrant a nerf, yet among those who can use it it literally outshines every other weapon in the game in terms of damage and utility.

Normally I don't advocate nerfs, but this is one weapon I'd love to see nerfed just so people would quit yammering on about how it can be used on everything.

/rant

[Original Twigman]

Feneckus wrote...

Original Stikman wrote...

not going to lie. I was not impressed...

one shotting cannibals, husks and mauraders?? You can do the same thing with a talon + headshot, and you get 4 shots... let alone a wraith.

That's the Claymore's weakness. I tried to show that BEs do make up for it.

Also, why didn't you mention the parts where I one shotted Ravagers ? Phantoms ? Banshees/Praetorians' barriers ? Two shotting Brutes ? Scions ? 

I didn't see some of those things. I did see you BE + "one shot" a ravager.  I also saw two BEs + two claymore shots to take out a brute, same with the scion. Talon can do these things as well, as the BEs are very powerful, especially if you prime with af+shoot+BE and either back out and repeat or just shoot once or twice...

I did see the 1 DC + Claymore shot take out the praetorian barrier, which was impressive... yet I feel that is a pretty inconsistent occurance; like when you DC + shot directly at the atlas, but only took down one bar of shields.

Overall, just seems like a slower version of the talon for 80% of what the fury does best = nonboss kill. While the boss killing was a bit faster, i don't see the point on gold.

[Crimson Vanguard]

MP-Ryan wrote...

I am going to cackle when Shotgun ULM and EDI get the claymore nerfed. Not because I hate it or because it's a bad weapon, but because I am so tired of the Claymore>all crowd insisting that it can or should be used on every character. Enough already! Yes, sure it can be used on a Fury but the Claymore is one of the most boring weapons in the entire game, so who wants to?

I've stripped the Claymore off all my characters because powers are so much more interesting than weapons in this game, despite the shooty elements constantly outshining them.

The Claymore is a shining example of how badly the weapons balancing can be in this game. Not enough people use it to warrant a nerf, yet among those who can use it it literally outshines every other weapon in the game in terms of damage and utility.

Normally I don't advocate nerfs, but this is one weapon I'd love to see nerfed just so people would quit yammering on about how it can be used on everything.

/rant

I have 1 word. Reegar

[Deerber]

Jay_Hoxtatron wrote...

Prefer the Hurricane myself, but then again I'm not a Fury expert.

GallowsPole wrote...

A fine thread to have BW fix reload cancelling.

Wait... Jay, did you summon him this time too? 

[Original Twigman]

Feneckus wrote...

The Claymore is definitely not the best gun in the game.

Sexiest ? Most badass ? Most fun ? Most likely to give you an orgasm ? Sure. Best ? No.

It's not versatile at all. It has bad range and is heavy as ****. The Harrier has better DPS, will kill groups a lot quicker, has infinite range, primes ammo effects better and is a lot lighter. It's the perfect gun for basically every single class. Talon too.

The Javelin can one shot phantoms no matter the class, even on a Volus Sentinel.

The Typhoon is a lot better on weapon classes.

To be honest, the Claymore is almost never the best option.

I'm glad you are reasonable.

[Jay_Hoxtatron]

MP-Ryan wrote...

I am going to cackle when Shotgun ULM and EDI get the claymore nerfed. Not because I hate it or because it's a bad weapon, but because I am so tired of the Claymore>all crowd insisting that it can or should be used on every character. Enough already! Yes, sure it can be used on a Fury but the Claymore is one of the most boring weapons in the entire game, so who wants to?

I've stripped the Claymore off all my characters because powers are so much more interesting than weapons in this game, despite the shooty elements constantly outshining them.

The Claymore is a shining example of how badly the weapons balancing can be in this game. Not enough people use it to warrant a nerf, yet among those who can use it it literally outshines every other weapon in the game in terms of damage and utility.

Normally I don't advocate nerfs, but this is one weapon I'd love to see nerfed just so people would quit yammering on about how it can be used on everything.

/rant

Tbh, if you're bad, the Claymore is bad and outshined by plenty of weapons. If you're good, the Claymore outshines many other weapons. If you're great, the Claymore is outshined by plenty of weapons. So no, it's not the best weapon in the game. 

Deerbeer wrote...

GallowsPole wrote...

A fine thread to have BW fix reload cancelling.

Wait... Jay, did you summon him this time too? [smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/uncertain.png[/smilie]

Trufax. GP is my alt account.

Modifié par Jay_Hoxtatron, 25 février 2013 - 09:07 .

[MP-Ryan]

@Crimson Vanguard

Sorry, smartphone browser can't quote. Anyway, the Reegar is nowhere near as badly broken as the Claymore. The claymore can be used to great effect on every character. The Reegar is much more limited.

[dragaaan]

and starting tomorow we can give her some wallhacks as well

[GallowsPole]

Against armor, the Claymore smashes the Harrier and since most of the big bosses have armor, ummmm yeah.

[Deerber]

dragaaan wrote...

and starting tomorow we can give her some wallhacks as well

That is totally going to be among the first things I'll do tomorrow.

[FlowCytometry]

Jay_Hoxatron wrote...
Tbh, if you're bad, the Claymore is bad and outshined by plenty of weapons. If you're good, the Claymore outshines many other weapons. If you're great, the Claymore is outshined by plenty of weapons. So no, it's not the best weapon in the game

wow. ya know, that's actually a pretty damn accurate summation of the gun right there

ofc I should expect nothing less than accuracy from Jay

[Deerber]

Jay_Hoxtatron wrote...

Deerbeer wrote...

GallowsPole wrote...

A fine thread to have BW fix reload cancelling.

Wait... Jay, did you summon him this time too? 

Trufax. GP is my alt account.

Nice to know, so I can speak to you instead of him, right?

... Will you shut the **** up? :happy:

Modifié par Deerber, 25 février 2013 - 09:11 .

[Raptor2023]

Tried it, it's good. Like Feneckus said, you don't need rapid cooldowns on the Fury because Throw is fast and you're not going to be throwing every second for single target damage.

I just like the Hurricane because I can get more mileage out of the Heat Sink + Warp Rounds for single target damage. Not as badass, but more effective.

Raider is fun too.

[MP-Ryan]

@ Jay

I agree it's not the best weapon in the game, the problem is that it's the most versatile for skilled players and can be used with anything. There are better choices - no question - but its damage output makes it stupidly good on everything.

Then again, I am also one of those people who firmly believed that classes in ME3 should have maintained their weapon restrictions, because it would have made overall ME3 balancing make a lot more sense.

[Feneckus]

I don't use the Claymore on every single class. And even when I do use it, it's for fun, not because it's the best gun.

Human Soldier -> Much better with the Harrier. Also better with the Typhoon, BW and Hurricane.
Turian Soldier -> Much better with the Typhoon or Hurricane. Also better with the Locust, CSMG, Piranha, BW. Hell, even the Phaeston.
Havoc -> Better with the Reegar. As good with a Raider.
Krogan Soldier/Sentinel -> Better with the Harrier.
Fury -> Better with Acolyte/Hurricane combo
Drellguard/Drell Adept -> As good with a Talon/Harrier
GI -> MUCH MUCH better with a Talon or Javelin. Also better with the Typhoon and BW.

The only character I use the Claymore with and it happens to be the best option IMO is the Batarian Adept.

[Jay_Hoxtatron]

GallowsPole wrote...

Against armor, the Claymore smashes the Harrier and since most of the big bosses have armor, ummmm yeah.

Only if you're not willing to use consummables/mods.