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[Jaulen]

I dunno....Shepard knows from ME1 that the Reapers tried to use the Citadel, and from Javik that the Citadel was reaper focus also....

Don't know why Shep would think "Sure, this Citadel Apartment is some good real estate to purchase! What could go wrong?"


It's akin to buying a house right next to a leaking levy, in a ward with a history of flooding.

Modifié par Jaulen, 27 février 2013 - 04:54 .

[Capt. Pancake]

Im going to get Citadel. I'm going to think it's pretty cool to have the apartment and all the other stuff, but at this point who gives a sh*t. It's like an inmate on death roe with his last meal

[Gedgehog]

Markgraf wrote...

What's the point of supposedly getting an apartment on the Citadel, if it gets torn to pieces by the Reapers/Crucible explosion, and, depending on the ending, Shepard won't even be able to enjoy the apartment if it's rebuilt anyway? 

Complaining for the sake of complaining? Nice.

[BrookerT]

CronoDragoon wrote...

Subject M wrote...

...or a role playing game?....

Every single role-playing game ever made has side quests that strictly speaking sidetrack the protagonist from their main goal. That's why they are called side quests. You know,  optional stuff that players can do to enjoy themselves. Did you ever breed chocobos in FF7? Triple Triad in FF8? Decorate your castle in Suikoden?

Or play quasar and explore planets for asari writing in ME1 when Saren is going to bring about the destruction for the universe? I mean the quest is called "A Race Against Time". It's somehthing that bioware games always have.

[Hexley UK]

starlitegirlx wrote...

archangel1996 wrote...

****, BW is making you a favor allowing you to buy this DLC and you complain with these logic crap?
Just buy it, bro, and be happy that they listen to the fans

Quote From the book "Delusional fan today"

Making us a favor? A $15 per person favor. That's not a favor. That's a cash cow POS. Laziest idea for a DLC ever. Cut scenes with some romance that don't matter because of the ending. Play in a casino? Seriously? Design your apartment? What is this? The Sims?

They listened only because it was an easy way to make a lot of money. As a mission, it will be terrible. Of this, I'm sure. And the romance scenes will probably be lackluster. They are pandering and making a lot of money off of what sounds like a rather lame DLC unless you are THAT desperate for the RPG that should have been in the damn game from the start. How's that for getting screwed? Certainly it's not a favor.

QFT.

[Holger1405]

Hexley UK wrote...

starlitegirlx wrote...

archangel1996 wrote...

****, BW is making you a favor allowing you to buy this DLC and you complain with these logic crap?
Just buy it, bro, and be happy that they listen to the fans

Quote From the book "Delusional fan today"

Making us a favor? A $15 per person favor. That's not a favor. That's a cash cow POS. Laziest idea for a DLC ever. Cut scenes with some romance that don't matter because of the ending. Play in a casino? Seriously? Design your apartment? What is this? The Sims?

They listened only because it was an easy way to make a lot of money. As a mission, it will be terrible. Of this, I'm sure. And the romance scenes will probably be lackluster. They are pandering and making a lot of money off of what sounds like a rather lame DLC unless you are THAT desperate for the RPG that should have been in the damn game from the start. How's that for getting screwed? Certainly it's not a favor.

QFT.

Oh, so you Played it already? <_<
Nothing but prejudice...

[Endgame22]

Well it has to be more than just that of course be patient i am not going to jump to conclusions either until i see at least a trailer and try out the game for myself too!

[Kais Endac]

Subject M wrote...

You don't get it do you? People are not giving their lives to buy Shepard and the others time to mount a counter-attack on the Reapers... They are giving their life so that Shepard and friends can party and gamble on the citadel!! The cocktail tastes sweeter when you know that each second, another group of people back on Earth gets killed and processed, so why hurry?!

I don't really see a problem here, the gambling is optional if you don't think shepard should do it.......don't make him, it's still down to player choice.

No one can fight 24/7 every living being needs time to rest and recouperate, doubly so for soldiers. So yes people are fighting and dying out there while Shepard completes his mission(they also fight for more than him, yes it's a delaying action but they fight to protect loved ones etc), but what purpose would it serve for shepard to run himself into the ground (and possibly make a fatal mistake), when a few hours of relaxation would allow him to recover.

There are many cases of soldiers on the citadel gambling/clubbing/drinking, they take the time they do have to let off steam.

Modifié par Kais Endac, 27 février 2013 - 09:02 .

[Tymathee]

God you guys are difficult...can't we just enjoy the apartment? Some people like to restart their games you know...

[Gedgehog]

starlitegirlx wrote...

archangel1996 wrote...

****, BW is making you a favor allowing you to buy this DLC and you complain with these logic crap?
Just buy it, bro, and be happy that they listen to the fans

Quote From the book "Delusional fan today"

Making us a favor? A $15 per person favor. That's not a favor. That's a cash cow POS. Laziest idea for a DLC ever. Cut scenes with some romance that don't matter because of the ending. Play in a casino? Seriously? Design your apartment? What is this? The Sims?

They listened only because it was an easy way to make a lot of money. As a mission, it will be terrible. Of this, I'm sure. And the romance scenes will probably be lackluster. They are pandering and making a lot of money off of what sounds like a rather lame DLC unless you are THAT desperate for the RPG that should have been in the damn game from the start. How's that for getting screwed? Certainly it's not a favor.

Ok, so sit there and be the person that whinges about everything for the sake of it, fine by me

On a serious note, if you don't like the sound of it then don't buy it. It really is that simple.
An aditional note is that some people may like / have been wanting a DLC like this, but as mentioned above, if this isn't your cup of tea, don't buy it - noone is forcing you.

[Slappy Ya Face]

Markgraf wrote...

What's the point of supposedly getting an apartment on the Citadel, if it gets torn to pieces by the Reapers/Crucible explosion, and, depending on the ending, Shepard won't even be able to enjoy the apartment if it's rebuilt anyway? 

I'd say there's a low chance of it actually being damaged. Remember that the cital is really freakin' huge. 

[SyK18]

Oransel wrote...

This apartment would be actually BDSM dungeon. For everyone. No exceptions. Artistic integrity. Deal with it.

As for the serious topic, I see no reason for Shepard not to have some R&R during the war. Do you think that Napoleon or Churchill (no analogue to Shepard in human history, but still) had no rest during the most crucial weeks of their wars? They had and it involved smoking, drinking, sex and gambling (last one is true in case of Churchill). That's how living beings manage to exist in the desperate times both civilians (baby-booms) and military. Even Batman or Commander Shepard have their limits. 

Besides, ME3 plot from beginning to the end happens during 2-3 months in-universe, each scanning is 10 hours, each mass relay jump is 4 etc. He has plenty of time to focus on his hobbies (fish, models, apartment) and it's normal behaviour for even the most paragon living being during the war! Shepard may be the pinnacle of life and ultimate badass, but down deep he is still human and that's what makes Shepard such an appealing character. actually. Sure, he won't escape from reality and spend hours in Casino each day, but small party once in a week? Why not?

So in short, R&R is normal even for the determinator on the highest stakes war AND he has time for it.

The difference, Churchill and Napolean were not on the frontline.Do you think the British soldiers had R&R when the Germans were bombing them? 

In ME, and I can't believe I am comparing these people with Shepard, the whole PLANET EARTH AND GALAXY is dependent on Shepard to bring back all the species to DESTORY or stop the Reapers.

Yea the relays take a while to travel and if they had conversations on the ship, that would make sense...oh wait they did! 

And if they let Shepard go to the nightclub and dance...wait they did that too.

Ok, how about this, if they just let you interact with your squad on the CItadel...no they did that!

Huh...you know I think that Shepard had a lot of R&R al...Wait i got it!

What if they let you and Garrus go shoot at....DONE!!!!

I guess some people just want the whole game to be R&R during a Reaper war...hey but what do i know, I'm just a "anit-ender" so I must just be making all this up and "whinin". It;s not like it's all  in the game, already. And before you say "you never get to talk to the ME 2 characters...well they are busy doing other stuff.
Miranda finding her Oriana.
Samara rescuing hers daughter.
Wrex and Mordin trying to implnat a cure for the future of his planet.
Jacob trying to save his wife and many other ex Cerberus. 
and so on and on and on...all while taking down the Reapers and while interacting with Shepard.

EDIT: Just to add to that, the enemies Shepard is facing are Reapers, they are basically robots, they don't need R&R, they don't have hobbies, they have one job, to kill organics. They don't sleep even. So when Shepard is gambling they are killing. When Shepard is furnishing an apartment, the Reapers are killing. When he sleeps, REAPERS ARE KILLING!!

Modifié par SyK18, 28 février 2013 - 01:40 .

[SyK18]

Slappy Ya Face wrote...

Markgraf wrote...

What's the point of supposedly getting an apartment on the Citadel, if it gets torn to pieces by the Reapers/Crucible explosion, and, depending on the ending, Shepard won't even be able to enjoy the apartment if it's rebuilt anyway? 

I'd say there's a low chance of it actually being damaged. Remember that the cital is really freakin' huge. 

And not all of it explodes. The EC explains that.

[Kais Endac]

SyK18 wrote...

Oransel wrote...

This apartment would be actually BDSM dungeon. For everyone. No exceptions. Artistic integrity. Deal with it.

As for the serious topic, I see no reason for Shepard not to have some R&R during the war. Do you think that Napoleon or Churchill (no analogue to Shepard in human history, but still) had no rest during the most crucial weeks of their wars? They had and it involved smoking, drinking, sex and gambling (last one is true in case of Churchill). That's how living beings manage to exist in the desperate times both civilians (baby-booms) and military. Even Batman or Commander Shepard have their limits. 

Besides, ME3 plot from beginning to the end happens during 2-3 months in-universe, each scanning is 10 hours, each mass relay jump is 4 etc. He has plenty of time to focus on his hobbies (fish, models, apartment) and it's normal behaviour for even the most paragon living being during the war! Shepard may be the pinnacle of life and ultimate badass, but down deep he is still human and that's what makes Shepard such an appealing character. actually. Sure, he won't escape from reality and spend hours in Casino each day, but small party once in a week? Why not?

So in short, R&R is normal even for the determinator on the highest stakes war AND he has time for it.

The difference Churchill and Napolean were not on the frontline. You think that the French soldiers got to rest when they were being ordered to kill people? Or British soldiers when the Germans were bombing them? 

In ME, and I can't believe I am comparing these people with Shepard, the whole PLANET EARTH AND GALAXY is dependent on Shepard to bring back all the species to DESTORY or stop the Reapers.

Yea the relays take a while to travel and if they had conversations on the ship, that would make sense...oh wait they did! 

And if they let Shepard go to the nightclub and dance...wait they did that too.

Ok, how about this, if they just let you interact with your squad on the CItadel...no they did that!

Huh...you know I think that Shepard had a lot of R&R al...Wait i got it!

What if they let you and Garrus go shoot at....DONE!!!!

I guess some people just want the whole game to be R&R during a Reaper war...hey but what do i know, I'm just a "anit-ender" so I must just be making all this up and "whinin". It;s not like it's all  in the game, already. And before you say "you never get to talk to the ME 2 characters...well they are busy doing other stuff.
Miranda finding her Oriana.
Samara rescuing hers daughter.
Wrex and Mordin trying to implnat a cure for the future of his planet.
Jacob trying to save his wife and many other ex Cerberus. 
and so on and on and on...all while taking down the Reapers.

everything you just complained about is optional, so what's the problem, if you don't want shepard to do it........ don't do it.

But the option remains for those people that want it. There are plenty of cases where soldiers on the front line actually have some R&R whether it's gambling in a casino during a rotation out of combat, or during duty.

Leaving soldiers on the front line permanantly is only done on heavily sieged worlds like earth otherwise troopers are regularly rotated hence the large ammounts of off duty soldiers on the citadel who are between assignments(you can even listen to ambient dialogue where they tell you why they are on the citadel/what their next assignment is)

Shepard is just one man, but he is in some of the heaviest fighting and is expected to solve everyones problems if he spent the entire story in and out of combat not only would people get bored but he would be possibly sucidial. (the pressure he is under, what he knows will happen if he fails) 

There are even cases during world war 1 of germans and english troops playing football during christmas. Its actually not that unbelievable that shepard would relax the way he has.

Modifié par Kais Endac, 28 février 2013 - 01:47 .

[SyK18]

^ i have heard about the Christmas case. I have added an edit to further explain what Shepard was facing and what soldiers in real life face.

[Kais Endac]

SyK18 wrote...

^ i have heard about the Christmas case. I have added an edit to further explain what Shepard was facing and what soldiers in real life face.

I get what you are saying but the war is a very slow moving one, The reapers are methodical harvesting/killing the entire population of a planet before moving. on the fact is that they are killing millions every day even while shepard sleeps. Sleeping is a necessity so i'm not going to bother with that stupid argument, but whatever shepard does the reapers will be killing millions.

and the fact is we have no idea about the actual timeline, the actual time period where shepard goes visits the citadel could be a lull in the fighting. The reapers may not pull back and regroup but organics do, the normandy could be on shore leave, or maybe he is waiting for more information, maybe the quarians havent got in contact yet, or thessia is not yet under full scale invasion. Things happen all at once in game and missions stay open for far longer than they should considering the actual timeline involoved (although some are timed the majority are not and some locations will remain under siege till you reach them). 

Lastly the whole war effort is reliant on the crucible a massive construct that must take....well god knows how long to construct.

For me it's not really that unbelievable that shepard would have some downtime between his missions.

Modifié par Kais Endac, 28 février 2013 - 02:02 .

[SyK18]

Kais Endac wrote...

SyK18 wrote...

^ i have heard about the Christmas case. I have added an edit to further explain what Shepard was facing and what soldiers in real life face.

I get what you are saying but the war is a very slow moving one, The reapers are methodical harvesting/killing the entire population of a planet before moving. on the fact is that they are killing millions every day even while shepard sleeps. Sleeping is a necessity so i'm not going to bother with that stupid argument, but whatever shepard does the reapers will be killing millions.

and the fact is we have no idea about the actual timeline, the actual time period where shepard goes visits the citadel could be a lull in the fighting. The reapers may not pull back and regroup but organics do, the normandy could be on shore leave, or maybe he is waiting for more information, maybe the quarians havent got in contact yet, or thessia is not yet under full scale invasion. Things happen all at once in game and missions stay open for far longer than they should considering the actual timeline involoved (although some are timed the majority are not and some locations will remain under siege till you reach them). 

Lastly the whole war effort is reliant on the crucible a massive construct that must take....well god knows how long to construct.

For me it's not really that unbelievable that shepard would have some downtime between his missions.

I cannot agree on the bolded part, mainly because Earth has already been invaded at the start of the game.

And yes sleeping is important for organics, i was just trying to state that main point of the enemies in ME, that they continue to kill and kill, so when Shepard does wake up he cannot and should not waste anymore time. 

I do agree about the timeline aspect, but a lull? For the Repaers? I don't see that happening. The timing of Shepard at each mission is a little, "really? i reached at the same time Samara came here?" or "could'nt Jacob be attacked after i left." This is all so that the mission is exciting for the player. If they just evacuated Jacob and ended the mission with major dialouge it would have felt wasted.

I have already stated that there is a lot of R&R already in the game between missions.

[Kais Endac]

SyK18 wrote...

Kais Endac wrote...

SyK18 wrote...

^ i have heard about the Christmas case. I have added an edit to further explain what Shepard was facing and what soldiers in real life face.

I get what you are saying but the war is a very slow moving one, The reapers are methodical harvesting/killing the entire population of a planet before moving. on the fact is that they are killing millions every day even while shepard sleeps. Sleeping is a necessity so i'm not going to bother with that stupid argument, but whatever shepard does the reapers will be killing millions.

and the fact is we have no idea about the actual timeline, the actual time period where shepard goes visits the citadel could be a lull in the fighting. The reapers may not pull back and regroup but organics do, the normandy could be on shore leave, or maybe he is waiting for more information, maybe the quarians havent got in contact yet, or thessia is not yet under full scale invasion. Things happen all at once in game and missions stay open for far longer than they should considering the actual timeline involoved (although some are timed the majority are not and some locations will remain under siege till you reach them). 

Lastly the whole war effort is reliant on the crucible a massive construct that must take....well god knows how long to construct.

For me it's not really that unbelievable that shepard would have some downtime between his missions.

I cannot agree on the bolded part, mainly because Earth has already been invaded at the start of the game.

And yes sleeping is important for organics, i was just trying to state that main point of the enemies in ME, that they continue to kill and kill, so when Shepard does wake up he cannot and should not waste anymore time. 

I do agree about the timeline aspect, but a lull? For the Repaers? I don't see that happening. The timing of Shepard at each mission is a little, "really? i reached at the same time Samara came here?" or "could'nt Jacob be attacked after i left." This is all so that the mission is exciting for the player. If they just evacuated Jacob and ended the mission with major dialouge it would have felt wasted.

I have already stated that there is a lot of R&R already in the game between missions.

The sleeping part being stupid was actually aimed at myself, because I thought about then realised that, that sort of argument was actually really stupid.

Anyway the war is moving slowly, yes the reapers are on earth and virtually every other species home planets are either under siege or getting very close. But the fact remains that the repaers are taking it slow they move in collect the population centers, disrupt any resistance, then settle in and begin harvesting. Or they simply wipe out the planets population or render them immobile.

Each species is engaging the reapers as they can but they must pick their battles.

While the reapers can wage a war of attrition and they are perfectly "happy" to sit back and leave some of the more heavily fortified areas (there are a few places where reaper forces simply sit back, the turian helium 3 facility is one case)alone while they harvest the planets.

The lull is when the alliance/turian/asari forces pull back, we are not capable of the same feats as the reapers so there will be times where the alliance pulls back and regroups, and it's during these times that the soldiers will get what limited shore leave is possible.

It's amazing how many coincidences there are in games how the player just happened to be in the right place at the right time lol, of course without this these games would be incredibly boring.

I can see why people are upset though. But honestly it does not bother me too much, things like this have been in video games for a while, player agency (i think thats the right word) is often waylayed by some incredibly pointless things. If it does bother me I will try and think up ways it could fit into the universe/timeline of course this usally leads to more frustration, as I realise that it's usually just not possible.

Edit: I think the problem for some people, is that while it's accepted that Shepard will relax between missions people don't actually see it, they wanted more interaction between the squad and more time with the LI hence the scenes on the Citadel. (Garrus,Kaidan,Ashley,Liara). I suppose BW could have left it up to the player to imagine these scenes.

Modifié par Kais Endac, 28 février 2013 - 03:05 .

[SyK18]

Kais Endac wrote...

SyK18 wrote...

Kais Endac wrote...

SyK18 wrote...

^ i have heard about the Christmas case. I have added an edit to further explain what Shepard was facing and what soldiers in real life face.

I get what you are saying but the war is a very slow moving one, The reapers are methodical harvesting/killing the entire population of a planet before moving. on the fact is that they are killing millions every day even while shepard sleeps. Sleeping is a necessity so i'm not going to bother with that stupid argument, but whatever shepard does the reapers will be killing millions.

and the fact is we have no idea about the actual timeline, the actual time period where shepard goes visits the citadel could be a lull in the fighting. The reapers may not pull back and regroup but organics do, the normandy could be on shore leave, or maybe he is waiting for more information, maybe the quarians havent got in contact yet, or thessia is not yet under full scale invasion. Things happen all at once in game and missions stay open for far longer than they should considering the actual timeline involoved (although some are timed the majority are not and some locations will remain under siege till you reach them). 

Lastly the whole war effort is reliant on the crucible a massive construct that must take....well god knows how long to construct.

For me it's not really that unbelievable that shepard would have some downtime between his missions.

I cannot agree on the bolded part, mainly because Earth has already been invaded at the start of the game.

And yes sleeping is important for organics, i was just trying to state that main point of the enemies in ME, that they continue to kill and kill, so when Shepard does wake up he cannot and should not waste anymore time. 

I do agree about the timeline aspect, but a lull? For the Repaers? I don't see that happening. The timing of Shepard at each mission is a little, "really? i reached at the same time Samara came here?" or "could'nt Jacob be attacked after i left." This is all so that the mission is exciting for the player. If they just evacuated Jacob and ended the mission with major dialouge it would have felt wasted.

I have already stated that there is a lot of R&R already in the game between missions.

The sleeping part being stupid was actually aimed at myself, because I thought about then realised that, that sort of argument was actually really stupid.

Anyway the war is moving slowly, yes the reapers are on earth and virtually every other species home planets are either under siege or getting very close. But the fact remains that the repaers are taking it slow they move in collect the population centers, disrupt any resistance, then settle in and begin harvesting. Or they simply wipe out the planets population or render them immobile.

Each species is engaging the reapers as they can but they must pick their battles.

While the reapers can wage a war of attrition and they are perfectly "happy" to sit back and leave some of the more heavily fortified areas (there are a few places where reaper forces simply sit back, the turian helium 3 facility is one case)alone while they harvest the planets.

The lull is when the alliance/turian/asari forces pull back, we are not capable of the same feats as the reapers so there will be times where the alliance pulls back and regroups, and it's during these times that the soldiers will get what limited shore leave is possible.

It's amazing how many coincidences there are in games how the player just happened to be in the right place at the right time lol, of course without this these games would be incredibly boring.

I can see why people are upset though. But honestly it does not bother me too much, things like this have been in video games for a while, player agency (i think thats the right word) is often waylayed by some incredibly pointless things. If it does bother me I will try and think up ways it could fit into the universe/timeline of course this usally leads to more frustration, as I realise that it's usually just not possible.

Edit: I think the problem for some people, is that while it's accepted that Shepard will relax between missions people don't actually see it, they wanted more interaction between the squad and more time with the LI hence the scenes on the Citadel. (Garrus,Kaidan,Ashley,Liara). I suppose BW could have left it up to the player to imagine these scenes.

Again, i can't really understand this pov, since Shepard has gotten a lot of R&R throughout the whole game. There is no need for fans to pay for something as character interaction. 

On the topic of the lul, i seemed to misunderstand at first. But even with the example you gave i disagree. True that they have to regroup, but regroup to strategize not kickback and relax while millions die. 

It just seem so trivial to ask for more character interaction in a game that can offer so much more.

Hey if they have forced Destoyers to be left with their imagintion regarding Shepard's fate, why not more LI fans.

[Oransel]

SyK18 wrote...

EDIT: Just to add to that, the enemies Shepard is facing are Reapers, they are basically robots, they don't need R&R, they don't have hobbies, they have one job, to kill organics. They don't sleep even. So when Shepard is gambling they are killing. When Shepard is furnishing an apartment, the Reapers are killing. When he sleeps, REAPERS ARE KILLING!!

And? Shepard knows he/she can't save everyone. Sure, Shepard's mission is to stop that and paragon Shep would think about dead extensively, but in order to save them he/she must be in top shape. Everyone knows this, Garrus even outright states that word in word. R&R is a must for human being to function normally during the war. If he would not rest, he would fail - pressure is already too much for anyone, but freakin' Commander Shepard and even he/she is breaking (dream scenes implementation was garbage 'cause of kid, but if done right with past squadmates, even Jenkins, it would make a lot of sense). In short, he needs this.

You have a valid point, though, about R&R already present in game. Sure, Shepard can dance and drink in the Afterlife, go shoot things with Garrus etc. and it counts, but conversations, though, are definetely not related to that. Some of them can easily make situation worse and more wrenching. Yet, yes, I agree, there is R&R in game, but here are some points:

1. Dancing and shooting is optional, just like this DLC is. You can skip either one or both if you are into robot Shepard.
2. Even if you do both, it would still take 5% of Shep's time compared to endless combat, larger than life decisions and sad moments.

[Kais Endac]

SyK18 wrote...

Again, i can't really understand this pov, since Shepard has gotten a lot of R&R throughout the whole game. There is no need for fans to pay for something as character interaction. 

On the topic of the lul, i seemed to misunderstand at first. But even with the example you gave i disagree. True that they have to regroup, but regroup to strategize not kickback and relax while millions die. 

It just seem so trivial to ask for more character interaction in a game that can offer so much more.

Hey if they have forced Destoyers to be left with their imagintion regarding Shepard's fate, why not more LI fans.

Yea but I said fall back and regroup and yes it will be to stratagise, but the fleet will also resuply etc. I never meant that they would fall back just so people could relax, but the act in itself would allow people to be rotated out for new assignements (again there are a ton of them present on the citadel). This may be a galactic war but the soldiers are not always on the frontlines (unless they were stationed on planets like earth). Fresh people are rotated in while the older get restationed.

They are not kicking back while millions die, but as a soldier they really have limited options in what they can do while they wait for reassignment or redeployment to a new warzone. Yes they could volunteer to help at the clinics or help out around the citadel but these people are deployed into hellish warzones fighting against what could be former friends I really don't see the problem with them relaxing. 

You keep repeating that millions are dying, and they are but these men and women are already doing all they can to stop a menace that doesn't sleep, tire or have mercy. If I were to get on anyones case it would be those seen around the citadel that are not doing anything to support the war effort.

It's the same for Shepard but he is just one man with the weight and fate of the galaxy on his shoulders, so yes while he goes out to buy his model ships/fish or simply meets up with his friends on the citadel people are dying. but he is just human (and one that is sent into some of the harshest warzones and having intense dreams brought on by his guilt/fatigue), again I don't really see the problem in him relaxing on the citadel. 

Edit: I'm mostly indifferent to what people have been demanding, for me as long as the dlc is worth while I won't complain.

You make good arguments thoughand tbh I'm not really sure that I wanted more R&R in a dlc, but I guess I will just have to wait and see if the main story of the dlc is any good.

Modifié par Kais Endac, 28 février 2013 - 11:53 .

[Jadebaby]

Jaulen wrote...

I dunno....Shepard knows from ME1 that the Reapers tried to use the Citadel, and from Javik that the Citadel was reaper focus also....

Don't know why Shep would think "Sure, this Citadel Apartment is some good real estate to purchase! What could go wrong?"


It's akin to buying a house right next to a leaking levy, in a ward with a history of flooding.

I agree with this, it doesn't matter that Shepard doesn't know about what's going to happen afterwards. It's the fact that the Citadel already poses a significant threat.

Which is why when the man in the Docking Bay is asking for help to get clearance for him and his family, I usually deny them that clearance. Not to be a renegade ****, but because the galaxy is enormous and there are way more safer places to be than the Citadel.

Hell, Shepard can only buy this apartment AFTER finishing the coup. That in and of itself shows how fragile the Citadel really is.

[RavenCeV]

Meh, yeah the Citadel's a dangerous place and yeah he's gonna die, but I think of this as an alternative ending in a way. I'm going to play this right before TIM's base, to reflect all my decisions, and I probably won't replay the ending, been there done that. My Shepherd will be left in a nice limbo, surrounded by friends.

[Jadebaby]

I am in a difficult position. In order to play mehem I need to buy ME3 for PC, that also means I have to buy the dlc's. Namely, Leviathan, From Ashes and Citadel... Buy I honestly can't justify paying BioWare another $100 for (ultimately) someone else's work.