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KalilKareem wrote...

Well, I guess this could be Bioware's way of getting everyone to play platinum and thus unlock all those shiny UR's. With 50 medigels platinum is the new silver.

No, Platinum is still Platinum. You just get more medi-gel.

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RealTerminal wrote...

No, shut up, delete thread.
We need some good "OP" kits, whining like this has nerfed the hell out of some great weapons and classes.
Never.
Again.


You might "need" them. I certainly don't.

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KalilKareem wrote...

Well, I guess this could be Bioware's way of getting everyone to play platinum and thus unlock all those shiny UR's. With 50 medigels platinum is the new silver.


Nah, it's BioWare's way of buffing the scimitar, katana and disciple.

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I don't even get why people care. You want a great kit? There you go. Don't look a gift horse in the mouth.

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InstaShark wrote...

KalilKareem wrote...

Well, I guess this could be Bioware's way of getting everyone to play platinum and thus unlock all those shiny UR's. With 50 medigels platinum is the new silver.

No, Platinum is still Platinum. You just get more medi-gel.


Not just "more". 10 times more. You can go down 5 friggin' times PER WAVE. This is not a matter of doing 10% more dmage, or being able to see through walls. This changes the dynamics of the game completely. Maybe intentional, maybe not. Now I am not saying that anything should be nerfed, I am simply stating that the impact of this ability can barely be overestimated :)

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Stop whining OP, if you're sad if other players get better scores go play a competitive multiplayer game and leave us and our shiny new kits and weapons alone!

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Blind2Society wrote...

KalilKareem wrote...

Well, I guess this could be Bioware's way of getting everyone to play platinum and thus unlock all those shiny UR's. With 50 medigels platinum is the new silver.


Nah, it's BioWare's way of buffing the scimitar, katana and disciple.


Yeah. There is gunna be loads of katan-wielding EDI's running about I am sure of it :whistle:

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KalilKareem wrote...

Yeah. There is gunna be loads of katan-wielding EDI's running about I am sure of it :whistle:


:lol: Hey, the first gun I strap on her will be the scimitar and if I like it, I may just stick with it. ;)

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InstaShark wrote...

I don't even get why people care. You want a great kit? There you go. Don't look a gift horse in the mouth.


It is not this kit that is the problem. Its all the old school kits that can actually die I am worried about. If immortallity was the baseline than this particular brand would cause no issues, as it stands it is not and hence this kit will be a major game changer. For good or for bad depending on your outlook.

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solidprice wrote...

U Bite My Pillow wrote...

Not sure if you noticed but ALL the Reckoning Kits are amazing...


the talon merc guy isnt, he only kinda good. mabe the new turian. and we dunno aboutt the adapt yet.

but unkillable thor krogan, 12 ft. tall darth vader, and the TGI's parallel universe twin
who is even better then him in almost every way.

.......ok i admit, those 3 are broken <_<


Maybe I´m wrong,but I have seen "unkillable"Krogan was killed by little Geth Bomber.
Or invincible Juggernaut had problems with single Gold Atlas.Now try to imagine those kits solo on Platinum.

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KalilKareem wrote...

InstaShark wrote...

KalilKareem wrote...

Well, I guess this could be Bioware's way of getting everyone to play platinum and thus unlock all those shiny UR's. With 50 medigels platinum is the new silver.

No, Platinum is still Platinum. You just get more medi-gel.


Not just "more". 10 times more. You can go down 5 friggin' times PER WAVE. This is not a matter of doing 10% more dmage, or being able to see through walls. This changes the dynamics of the game completely. Maybe intentional, maybe not. Now I am not saying that anything should be nerfed, I am simply stating that the impact of this ability can barely be overestimated :)

The average person would still see this as pro-nerf talk. I just see this as an excuse for reckless behavior, which is counterproductive. Especially if said reckless behavior gets you sync-killed.

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KalilKareem wrote...

Not just "more". 10 times more. You can go down 5 friggin' times PER WAVE. This is not a matter of doing 10% more dmage, or being able to see through walls. This changes the dynamics of the game completely. Maybe intentional, maybe not. Now I am not saying that anything should be nerfed, I am simply stating that the impact of this ability can barely be overestimated :)


Somewhat how I feel.  Not sure if it will be a huge gamechanger, but I can see her becoming very popular.  Granted, for many players this will change very little.  They'll just go down a lot, and seeing as I PuG often it will save me from have to revive my decoys.  Still, I can see this becoming a crutch.  Expect an EDI-bot in every.  single.  lobby.

I'm cool with it, just a little mind-boggled.  In the hands of a good player, this is effective invicibility.  It's kind of hilarious.

Modifié par Reyno411, 26 février 2013 - 08:02 .


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xJNPSx THE WAGN wrote...

 We haven't quite got her yet, but really bioware? Tac cloak with effin SHOTGUNS?!?! Lets review

-Snap freeze an awesome debuff/tech burst spam
-tac cloak with shotgun bonus---OP city
-and some ability that instantly restores her shields and can insta revive her
-sick mobility and heavy melee
WHAT ELSE COULD SHE WANT?!?!

It pathetic how infiltrators  continue to DOMINATE this game.....
It's one thing that tac cloak is awesome, but they just get AMAZING other powers as well. I do NOT want the sexbot being the next geth inf/ghost.

Say what you will, but it's pretty obvious she will wreck ALL THE THINGS


go away! if they nerf my sexbot i'm coming for you!!

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InstaShark wrote...

KalilKareem wrote...

InstaShark wrote...

KalilKareem wrote...

Well, I guess this could be Bioware's way of getting everyone to play platinum and thus unlock all those shiny UR's. With 50 medigels platinum is the new silver.

No, Platinum is still Platinum. You just get more medi-gel.


Not just "more". 10 times more. You can go down 5 friggin' times PER WAVE. This is not a matter of doing 10% more dmage, or being able to see through walls. This changes the dynamics of the game completely. Maybe intentional, maybe not. Now I am not saying that anything should be nerfed, I am simply stating that the impact of this ability can barely be overestimated :)

The average person would still see this as pro-nerf talk. I just see this as an excuse for reckless behavior, which is counterproductive. Especially if said reckless behavior gets you sync-killed.


Thats s why I try to stear clear of "average" persons :) Sure it is possible to get yourself sync killed. But now imagine for a second that the EDI player is not retarded. That he is chilling around in the back (in close proximity of a ammo crate) sniping with a claymore using a smart choke and a heavy barrel. If he/she/ot goes down he/she/ot just pops up again and proceeds to carnage. If stuff gets hairy, cloak and run to the next ammo crate. How does this not trivialize the game?

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KalilKareem wrote...

InstaShark wrote...

KalilKareem wrote...

InstaShark wrote...

KalilKareem wrote...

Well, I guess this could be Bioware's way of getting everyone to play platinum and thus unlock all those shiny UR's. With 50 medigels platinum is the new silver.

No, Platinum is still Platinum. You just get more medi-gel.


Not just "more". 10 times more. You can go down 5 friggin' times PER WAVE. This is not a matter of doing 10% more dmage, or being able to see through walls. This changes the dynamics of the game completely. Maybe intentional, maybe not. Now I am not saying that anything should be nerfed, I am simply stating that the impact of this ability can barely be overestimated :)

The average person would still see this as pro-nerf talk. I just see this as an excuse for reckless behavior, which is counterproductive. Especially if said reckless behavior gets you sync-killed.


Thats s why I try to stear clear of "average" persons :) Sure it is possible to get yourself sync killed. But now imagine for a second that the EDI player is not retarded. That he is chilling around in the back (in close proximity of a ammo crate) sniping with a claymore using a smart choke and a heavy barrel. If he/she/ot goes down he/she/ot just pops up again and proceeds to carnage. If stuff gets hairy, cloak and run to the next ammo crate. How does this not trivialize the game?

I'm a Wraith man myself, but anyway.

I see your point, but wouldn't they have to use the power first before being able to get themselves back up anyway (you can't really use your powers when you're dead)? There's still the probability that they may not have the reaction time to activate said power (though they could just use it in a panic). And what if they run out of medi-gel when that happens? I dunno. I'm just talking hypothetically, but there's always that possibility.

Modifié par InstaShark, 26 février 2013 - 08:10 .


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Rad_Rage wrote...

etm125 wrote...

I thought she might be the laggard of the group-- then I watched the gameplay....her grenades are like gels. It's like the turian stimpack but even worse. If you have a thermal clip or can reach a grenade box you should never lose.

It's like infinite lives. How could a squad of these ever lose? Ever?


You seriously underestimate how bad some people are at this game.


Yep, i see far more bad ghosts, gis, and kroguards than good ones.

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People should consider complaining AFTER the DLC has been released, complaining about it now makes you seem kind of well stupid

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InstaShark wrote...

KalilKareem wrote...

InstaShark wrote...

KalilKareem wrote...

InstaShark wrote...

KalilKareem wrote...

Well, I guess this could be Bioware's way of getting everyone to play platinum and thus unlock all those shiny UR's. With 50 medigels platinum is the new silver.

No, Platinum is still Platinum. You just get more medi-gel.


Not just "more". 10 times more. You can go down 5 friggin' times PER WAVE. This is not a matter of doing 10% more dmage, or being able to see through walls. This changes the dynamics of the game completely. Maybe intentional, maybe not. Now I am not saying that anything should be nerfed, I am simply stating that the impact of this ability can barely be overestimated :)

The average person would still see this as pro-nerf talk. I just see this as an excuse for reckless behavior, which is counterproductive. Especially if said reckless behavior gets you sync-killed.


Thats s why I try to stear clear of "average" persons :) Sure it is possible to get yourself sync killed. But now imagine for a second that the EDI player is not retarded. That he is chilling around in the back (in close proximity of a ammo crate) sniping with a claymore using a smart choke and a heavy barrel. If he/she/ot goes down he/she/ot just pops up again and proceeds to carnage. If stuff gets hairy, cloak and run to the next ammo crate. How does this not trivialize the game?

I'm a Wraith man myself, but anyway.

I see your point, but wouldn't they have to use the power first before being able to get themselves back up anyway (you can't really use your powers when you're dead)? There's still the probability that they may not have the reaction time to activate said power (though they could just use it in a panic). And what if they run out of medi-gel when that happens? I dunno. I'm just talking hypothetically, but there's always that possibility.


Well, tbh, I don't know what the timing requiremnts are to use it. I guess we will know tonight (CET)

#119
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It pathetic how infiltrators  continue to DOMINATE this game.....


And if you were fighting against them, that might be a problem.

Also, really? If they dominate, where are they? I've been playing fairly regularly lately, and I see a good balance of everything. I don't see nearly as many Infiltrators as I used to, not even close. Is it just me? If they're as ruinous to the non competitive environment as the hopelessly clueless seem say, then why isn't every game packed with two or three of them?

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BjornDaDwarf wrote...

Yep, i see far more bad ghosts, gis, and kroguards than good ones.


As do I. People use the term "crutch" but there really is no such thing. Those "crutch classes/weapons" only appear so when good players use them.

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Blind2Society wrote...

KalilKareem wrote...

Well, I guess this could be Bioware's way of getting everyone to play platinum and thus unlock all those shiny UR's. With 50 medigels platinum is the new silver.


Nah, it's BioWare's way of buffing the scimitar, katana and disciple.


I'm totally gonna use the Scimitar on her.

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Zjarcal wrote...

Blind2Society wrote...

KalilKareem wrote...

Well, I guess this could be Bioware's way of getting everyone to play platinum and thus unlock all those shiny UR's. With 50 medigels platinum is the new silver.


Nah, it's BioWare's way of buffing the scimitar, katana and disciple.


I'm totally gonna use the Scimitar on her.


As am I ;) Then I will try the eviscerator, then katana, then disciple, then my favorite shotty, the raider. If the first one goes well (and I hope it does) I will be going back to it.^_^

Modifié par Blind2Society, 26 février 2013 - 08:20 .


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Might make revive medals a bit more scarce, aside from that, I ain't even mad.

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xJNPSx THE WAGN wrote...

 We haven't quite got her yet, but really bioware? Tac cloak with effin SHOTGUNS?!?! Lets review

-Snap freeze an awesome debuff/tech burst spam
-tac cloak with shotgun bonus---OP city
-and some ability that instantly restores her shields and can insta revive her
-sick mobility and heavy melee
WHAT ELSE COULD SHE WANT?!?!

It pathetic how infiltrators  continue to DOMINATE this game.....
It's one thing that tac cloak is awesome, but they just get AMAZING other powers as well. I do NOT want the sexbot being the next geth inf/ghost.

Say what you will, but it's pretty obvious she will wreck ALL THE THINGS


all i am hearing iw WAHHHH WAHHHH WAHHHHH.

There are plenty of other non-infiltrator kits that are very powerful.  Yes infiltrators have some powerful abilities, but they are not alone in this.  I can't help but thinking that people are complaining purely because they don't like certain classes and they just want to **** all over other peoples fun.

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KalilKareem wrote...

InstaShark wrote...

I'm a Wraith man myself, but anyway.

I see your point, but wouldn't they have to use the power first before being able to get themselves back up anyway (you can't really use your powers when you're dead)? There's still the probability that they may not have the reaction time to activate said power (though they could just use it in a panic). And what if they run out of medi-gel when that happens? I dunno. I'm just talking hypothetically, but there's always that possibility.


Well, tbh, I don't know what the timing requiremnts are to use it. I guess we will know tonight (CET)


Activate Repair Matrix, it lasts for 22 seconds.  Constantly restores shields during that time, and that alone makes her fairly tanky with her natural high shields.  If you go down during those 22 seconds, you are auto-revived.  When you are revived, the Matrix is deactivated.  At this point you can, if you choose, immediately activate another Matrix provided you have the supply/nades.  Or you could cloak/run... whatever.

The Matrix has a timer, but it only requires that you activate it before going down in order to auto-revive  That will be about as difficult as activating a Stim Pack before you can be downed.  Which is to say... not at all.  With capacity gear, it will not be the least bit difficult to ensure that you always have a handy supply.  

She turns thermal clip packs into medi-gels.  Admittedly that's pretty cool.