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[TweedleDee66]

Chris Priestly wrote...

And people wonder why they don't get straight answers to straight questions from me more often. It is exactly this sort of post that keeps developers off the BSN and away from answering your questions openly and honestly.

Tweedle, I'm sorry you feel this way, but you are not "owed" anything. Alternate appearances are nice, but not essential to completing the game. They are also not promised to you at any point. Instead of making more appearance packs, the team focussed on making story based single player content and free multiplayer content. Again, I am sorry you feel let down, but at the end of the day, we chose to put our resources elsewhere to make content that we believe more people would want.

I have to wonder just how long ago anyone at BioWare made this decision not to make the next Alternate Appearance Pack and why it took anyone until now to announce it especially since the Appearance Pack thread in the Mass Effect 3 Announcements section is still fairly active.

Instead of calling it Appearance Pack 1 maybe you should have called it the “You Are Not Owed Anything So Take What Your Getting And Shut Up Pack”.

By the way, last I checked multiplayer features are not essential to completing the game and neither are the ME3 story based content that also apparently doesn’t have any impact on the story.

I do apreciate getting an actual answer about these packs, even if I do come off sounding like a douche bag.

Han Shot First wrote...

I'm guessing the appearance pack didn't sell well. Or maybe appearance packs never generate a lot of revenue.

Bioware is a corporation just like any other and all corporations are motived by proft. If appearance packs were cash cows I'm sure we would have seen more than one.

Just to be clear, none of the above is intended as criticism.

Of course its likely that Alternate Appearance Pack 1 didn’t sell to well. They released it 8 months after the game was released and after the crapfest over the ending probably lost a lot of potential customers.

Costume Packs for other games are most likely an easy way for them to make money, otherwise they wouldn’t make several of them. Just look at games like:

-Dead Or Alive 5, five months after the game was released and they are still releasing costume packs.
-Street Fighter 4
-Soul Calibur 4 and 5
-Dynasty Warriors 6 Empires had free ones, that kind of defeats the need to make money off them argument. Although they charged for them in Dynasty Warriors 7
-Dead Space 1, 2 and 3 (EA games)
-Final Fantasy XIII-2

All of them (as far as I can tell) released their costume packs shortly after the game was released to cash in on the game while the players were still heavily playing those games. BioWare shot itself in the foot for waiting 8 months for ME3 and with ME 2 waiting a year after the first pack was released, so if they didn’t make as much money as they had hoped its their own fault.

Valmarn wrote...

Since the appearance pack that was released is designated "Appearance Pack 1," I'm going to go out on a limb and say that they had plans for "Appearance Pack 2" and possibly "Appearance Pack 3."

Too bad...

Exactly. You don’t typically put a 1 after something if you don’t have plans to continue on with more. When its called Alternate Appearance Pack 1, its implied that there would be a Pack 2 or even more.

Modifié par TweedleDee66, 04 mars 2013 - 12:07 .

[shumworld]

newhalo123 wrote...

What about all the Multiplayer weapons? Will we get a pack for all the weapons they added to multiplayer, but not singleplayer?? I really want those weaps to be in Single player... They had 2 packs with weaps from multi, but they didnt add all of them... Why give us SOME multi weapons if you arent going to give them all?  I want the Collector weapons, and the new ones from Reckoning.

Are they added with Citadel?

I knid of hopping something like that to happen as well. Though if not I'm happy with what we have been given.

[FlyinElk212]

Chris Priestly wrote...
Tweedle, I'm sorry you feel this way, but you are not "owed" anything. Alternate appearances are nice, but not essential to completing the game. They are also not promised to you at any point.

This is absolutely true, but there is an expectation set once the number "1" gets slapped onto the end of the "Alternate Appearance Pack" title of your DLC. It's not so much that we feel like we're owed anything; it's moreso, why call it "Alt Appearance Pack 1", setting fan expectaion for a follow up, then not follow up on that expectation?

It'd be as if Quantic Dream decided to name their game, "Heavy Rain 1", with no intention of creating a "Heavy Rain 2". In that case, why not just call it "Heavy Rain"?

That being said, can we at least ask for the Alternate Appearances offered to those who got the Collector's Edition (Liara's Justicar Outfit, Ashley's Phoenix Armor Color Palette, etc.)?

[Zenyattaa]

As a matter of course I buy DLC for the games I purchase. Its my way of supporting the developers. I've done it with DA:O/Awakening/DAII and Mass Effect:2.

I've done so with Mass Effect 3 as well. For what ME3's DLC's are, I love them. Romping through Omega with Aria or getting answers about the reapers from Leviathan...both DLC's were worth it. I'm just sad ME3 i not getting the same level of support/addons as Mass Effect 2 received. Aside from some issues not worth rehashing here, ME3 has been an enjoyable and memorable experience.

Some good, some -really- bad...*coughs*
Here's hoping the last DLC is the best yet.

[Budgier]

Erm I'm started to get really turned off by the lack of trust gamers can have with developers now. Developers just do whatever they want and don't follow through this things with no cares in the world. I'm not even someone who buys appearance packs but not following through with making DLC that gamers thought they were getting for the second game in a row? Come on now.

And then Chris playing the victim card cause you're getting backlash over it. lol wow

[TweedleDee66]

Budgier wrote...

Erm I'm started to get really turned off by the lack of trust gamers can have with developers now. Developers just do whatever they want and don't follow through this things with no cares in the world. I'm not even someone who buys appearance packs but not following through with making DLC that gamers thought they were getting for the second game in a row? Come on now.

And then Chris playing the victim card cause you're getting backlash over it. lol wow

Exactly.

If they cant be bothered to finish something that is as (I know I’ll get flack for this but what the hell) trivial as costume packs how can anyone trust them to do their best on downloads that costs $10-$15 or a full game for that matter?

[Dr. Megaverse]

Chris Priestly wrote...

TweedleDee66 wrote...

So BioWare, you cant onandon... 　
 

And people wonder why they don't get straight answers to straight questions from me more often. It is exactly this sort of post that keeps developers off the BSN and away from answering your questions openly and honestly.

Tweedle, I'm sorry you feel this way, but you are not "owed" anything. Alternate appearances are nice, but not essential to completing the game. They are also not promised to you at any point. Instead of making more appearance packs, the team focussed on making story based single player content and free multiplayer content. Again, I am sorry you feel let down, but at the end of the day, we chose to put our resources elsewhere to make content that we believe more people would want.

Lowest common denominator is good for sales, is bad for quality content. Just sayin'...

Modifié par Dr. Megaverse, 05 mars 2013 - 10:29 .

[ChrisDV]

FlyinElk212 wrote...

That being said, can we at least ask for the Alternate Appearances offered to those who got the Collector's Edition (Liara's Justicar Outfit, Ashley's Phoenix Armor Color Palette, etc.)?

You mean the DLC pack called "Collector's Edition" that's the only thing exclusive to people who bought the CE & shouldn't be made available to people who didn't pay for it?

[Impulse and Compulse]

Y-you guys realize he's joking, right?

[TweedleDee66]

ChrisDV wrote...

FlyinElk212 wrote...

That being said, can we at least ask for the Alternate Appearances offered to those who got the Collector's Edition (Liara's Justicar Outfit, Ashley's Phoenix Armor Color Palette, etc.)?

You mean the DLC pack called "Collector's Edition" that's the only thing exclusive to people who bought the CE & shouldn't be made available to people who didn't pay for it?

Seeing as you have the PS3 Mass Effect 2 game, did you buy the Collectors Edition armor and weapons that are only available to buy on the PS3 in the Recon Operations Pack? How about the Terminus weapon and armor available only as a pre-order bonus but again available to buy on the PS3 in the N7 Complete Arsenal Bundle?

Having collector edition (or whatever they may call the more expensive game) content available to purchase at a later date is actually rather common for a lot of game companies.

Why people like you hate that idea is beyond me since they are paying extra to get the content. Look at Dead or Alive 5, the collectors edition came with a swimsuit set and now they have that same set available for sale and broken into 3 $5 packs.

[Yestare7]

 even if I do come off sounding like a douche bag.
 

You said it.
crying over some armour....:lol:





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[RighteousNixon]

visionazzery wrote...

johnj1979 wrote...

If this is the last of the DLC, so will this DLC have everything.

- Will it have new missions
- Will it fix the story
- Will it fix the ending
- Will it fix the game
- Does it include the rest of the appearance packs

There just seems to that there is STILL a lot that needs to be done before they can be thinking of ending the DLC for Mass Effect 3

Spot on hit the nail on the head.

Yes it to always be commended Bioware reps reply to issues.

But your opening line of your retort to a certain user Chris, raises great alarm bells more broadly for all us game fans and esp fans of me3.

When you said "It is people such as "_____" that we do not care to address the issues"

Or very similar to what you said it nevertheless what you implied.

Whatever happened Chris to the "customer is always right?' Do fans truly come first since after the releaser of me3?  I dare to have faith that you ONCE did but with your attitude in response as grateful as i am for all the cool stuff and heck i more forgiving then most a tiny bit TINY BIT more to invest time in replaying me3 inc the ending (though Chris you should seriously note that the MEHEM mod is tenfold more the rage than any single bioware mass effect announcement- ) That mod is an example of satisfying a clear overwhelming majority of fans. A devoted fan in mr.fob effectively showed up and exposed the flaws that seem to paralyze game companies. And the drama with the ending is the clearest example yet  Chris, that it honesrly could have been avoided...an example that other pull the strings and give rise to suspicion bioware is not in full control of their product. If any of my assertions are wrong pls clear up the record.

It extraordinary how something so critical to conclude the trilogy was so fundamentally wrong. On a smaller issue..butt still related..the refusal to do another appearane pack when most here clearly demand it - even for those like me that praise the work you have done and like me who are grateful..we are unappreiative or more so feel like as purchases customers our input is underappreciated.

How can we be sure that me4 will resemble what fans want? forget the hype what about the result? or will it be skewed to appease the task masters in ea?

Chris with me4 pple reaosnably expect total completionist attitude as in 'wait we prob should see through things like appearance packs, and try to include a little bit more. But pple are inclined to wonder- obviosuly minus the hate msgs and abuse you all certainly do not deserve that: 'do they listen? do developers keep and open mind?

You cannot tell us Chris you have for so much left unresolved in splayer. it not the fact that not a second appearance pack which i would have loved it the fact that things are not done to ones satisfaction. for the vast majority of loyal fans to you you understand?

"alarm bells for ALL us gamers"?? Since when do you speak for all gamers? You speak for yourself and nobody else so stop trying to inflate your post's validity by pretending to speak for "all" gamers. The customer is always right? Maybe in the restaurant industry but the gaming industry, absolutely NOT. If the release of Mass Effect 3 has taught us anything, it is this. Your subjective opinions on this game, or the developers of this game, are NOT always right. They are nothing more than YOUR opinions, period. 

Complaining about appearance packs, lol. Oh god what's next. 

[RighteousNixon]

Loki_344 wrote...

visionazzery wrote...

Yeah tbh it really sounds like Priestly's impassioned defence suggests it just a reason not to do a simple thing. Sure it no big deal but the broader implication really is do game companies even care bout what fans want? and especially the small requests. Bioware are good at the complex stuff i not doubt this dlc will be great but something as simple as a logical ending...or extra appearance packs? that would not take long to develop and not cost much? cmon bioware you cannot tell me that just 'too hard' i mean everyone is that really a profressional attitude esp to their customers?

It's not a question of it being "too hard", it's a question of prioritizing content for the time they had to complete it. Coming in here and making accusations of not caring about (obeying the every command of) their customers and the company being unprofessional because you're not getting your way is a bit ridiculous.

Is a bit ridiculous? It is the pure definition of ridiculous. I would be surprised if even 1% of the people who purchased Mass Effect 3 know that alternate appearance packs even exist to begin with. 

[Alien Number Six]

Maybe they will release the collector's edition costumes. They where great. Ashley's pink and white version of her blue costume with a Spectre symbol on the left shoulder was nostalgic and awesome. Liara had a black and pink version of her blue and white lab coat with those metal things over her eyes like Samara.

[Nykara]

Chris Priestly wrote...

TweedleDee66 wrote...

So BioWare, you cant onandon... 　
 

And people wonder why they don't get straight answers to straight questions from me more often. It is exactly this sort of post that keeps developers off the BSN and away from answering your questions openly and honestly.

Tweedle, I'm sorry you feel this way, but you are not "owed" anything. Alternate appearances are nice, but not essential to completing the game. They are also not promised to you at any point. Instead of making more appearance packs, the team focussed on making story based single player content and free multiplayer content. Again, I am sorry you feel let down, but at the end of the day, we chose to put our resources elsewhere to make content that we believe more people would want.

I don't feel we are owed anything however, ME3 is truely the end of Shepards story right? I really would love to see more DLC for *this* game, more of Shepard and more of Shepards crew because it would seem this is the only way we can get more of them now is with more DLC for this game?

[Lieutenant Kurin]

Chris Priestly wrote...

TweedleDee66 wrote...

So BioWare, you cant onandon... 　
 

And people wonder why they don't get straight answers to straight questions from me more often. It is exactly this sort of post that keeps developers off the BSN and away from answering your questions openly and honestly.

Tweedle, I'm sorry you feel this way, but you are not "owed" anything. Alternate appearances are nice, but not essential to completing the game. They are also not promised to you at any point. Instead of making more appearance packs, the team focussed on making story based single player content and free multiplayer content. Again, I am sorry you feel let down, but at the end of the day, we chose to put our resources elsewhere to make content that we believe more people would want.

Trust me when I say I get that, it just was a tad confusing when the first appearance pack was labeled "1", as if a "2" were to follow.

The first set was awesome though. By the way, why didn't the suit we get in citadel get added to our casual outfit section? Kinda made me sad.

Modifié par Lieutenant Kurin, 09 avril 2013 - 09:25 .

[Dup3r]

Bob Garbage wrote...

come on bioware my space hamster needs a hoodie!

DO IT

This!



(Thx BW for the hard work!)

[Harorrd]

May i ask why you would replay ME3?

[Constant Motion]

Harorrd wrote...

May i ask why you would replay ME3?

Fun.

[voteDC]

Harorrd wrote...

May i ask why you would replay ME3?

To conclude the story of my Shepard.

Issues with the combat and eaves-dropping side-quests aside, most of the game is fairly fun. Add in the MEHEM and things wrap up nicely, especially if you head canon a bit and use The Citadel as post-ending content.

[KotorEffect3]

Harorrd wrote...

May i ask why you would replay ME3?

Because it is fun,  you can experiment with different outcomes (genophage arc, Rannoch arc, imports where not everybody survived first two games, different romances etc..)  You can also experiment with different classes and play styles.  I don't care what people say, this series has very high replay value.

[KevinT18]

KotorEffect3 wrote...

Harorrd wrote...

May i ask why you would replay ME3?

Because it is fun,  you can experiment with different outcomes (genophage arc, Rannoch arc, imports where not everybody survived first two games, different romances etc..)  You can also experiment with different classes and play styles.  I don't care what people say, this series has very high replay value.

This.

People here are so jaded.

I'm starting to think BioWare is actually right about the vocal minority thing,

[Argentoid]

 Bioware, please! I need this

Modifié par Argentoid, 23 avril 2013 - 07:22 .

[Dup3r]

KevinT18 wrote...

KotorEffect3 wrote...

Harorrd wrote...

May i ask why you would replay ME3?

Because it is fun,  you can experiment with different outcomes (genophage arc, Rannoch arc, imports where not everybody survived first two games, different romances etc..)  You can also experiment with different classes and play styles.  I don't care what people say, this series has very high replay value.

This.

People here are so jaded.

I'm starting to think BioWare is actually right about the vocal minority thing,

Exactly.  Try killing Wrex off in 1 then let the bomb go off and don't cure the genophage and see what happens.