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[stonbw1]

LPPrince wrote...

Game beaten. What an experience.

AC3 has really turned me off to the series.  That game was boring and the ending was worse than ME3's.  I'm hearing AC4 is so much different than AC3, thus, my bad experience with AC3 shouldn't deter me.  Agree?

[LPPrince]

VERY MUCH AGREE

[I SOLD MY SOUL TO BIOWARE]

stonbw1 wrote...

LPPrince wrote...

Game beaten. What an experience.

AC3 has really turned me off to the series.  That game was boring and the ending was worse than ME3's.  I'm hearing AC4 is so much different than AC3, thus, my bad experience with AC3 shouldn't deter me.  Agree?

My god, agree. It's leagues better than AC3 on every account you can name.

[LPPrince]

It was made with almost every negative thing in AC3 in mind.

Example-

Connor? Uncharismatic as fuuuh

Edward? Charismatic as hell, almost up there with Ezio.

[I SOLD MY SOUL TO BIOWARE]

I actually think I like Edward more than Ezio, as much as I love the former.

Never thought I'd say that, but I was really invested in Edward's character arc. Rough as he was, I was rooting for the guy to the point where it gave me many feely feeling feels near the end of the game when you see how far the dude's come over the course of the story. Ezio had that too, but it felt more...well done with Edward, somehow.

So far, my AC protags probably go Edward>Haytham=Ezio tbh.

(Muh boi Haytham was a protagonist and I won't hear anyone telling me otherwise. > )

Modifié par SergeantSnookie, 09 décembre 2013 - 11:20 .

[Mr.House]

AC3 ends when Haytham has sex with Ziio.

[I SOLD MY SOUL TO BIOWARE]

simfamSP wrote...

Antagonist? Hah! We were playing the Antagonist all the time! His name was...

Connor -.-

Make me kill the best goddamn character in the game again Ubisoft, I ****ing dare you ><

I waited so long to press X that Haytham just gave up on waiting for me and killed Connor.

Best ending. 

I supported the Templars all da way in AC3 tbh. All of them completely stumped Connor with how truefax all their last words were. Harshly true, but they were all true nonetheless. 

Mr.House wrote...

AC3 ends when Haytham has sex with Ziio.

Pretty much.

Though it started up again any scene Haytham was in, because they were all gold.

/ complete fanboy of mai husbando

Modifié par SergeantSnookie, 10 décembre 2013 - 01:53 .

[GenericEnemy]

^ maybe its just me, but Haytham always looked and acted exactly like Jason Isaacs.

i cant be the only one to notice.

[Mr.House]

I don't know but Haytham is a handsome stud.

Modifié par Mr.House, 10 décembre 2013 - 02:02 .

[I SOLD MY SOUL TO BIOWARE]

 The real question of the Assassin's Creed series, doe...

We have Edward:





Then we have Haytham. (sure he only got it in once in the time we played as him, but the dude was way too smooth.)



Then...Connor?



Man. You're a bit of a lunchbag letdown, aren't you? 

Modifié par SergeantSnookie, 10 décembre 2013 - 02:35 .

[AresKeith]

Don't blame Connor, he hasn't had experience with women :S

And you forgot about Ezio

[I SOLD MY SOUL TO BIOWARE]

I mean the Kenways. :3

Old grandps and dad were probably more than a little disappointed.

[LPPrince]

Dat ending to AC4 tho

It was nice

A lot less sad than AC3's

[Ozzy]

LPPrince wrote...
A lot less sad than AC3's

Well, yes and no. *scroll below*

Seeing them at the opera was bittersweet for me, considering we know what happens soon after. Everything goes to ****.

[LPPrince]

Well yeah, but still.

[Mr.House]

EntropicAngel wrote...

SergeantSnookie wrote...

I supported the Templars all da way in AC3 tbh. All of them completely stumped Connor with how truefax all their last words were. Harshly true, but they were all true nonetheless. 

I personally felt it was terrible, because they flogged the ole "But I'm trying to HELP you" schtick so much even though it went directly against their Templar ideals.

Templars: Peace through control.

American independence: It's already in the name, really. The templars woudn't support freedom when they're seeking control. It just felt like a ham-fisted way to make the conflict seem greyer than it really was.

The only good end, in my opinion, was..what's his name, the guy who tried to kill Washington. He admits he's only in it for the drinking and the women, and confronts Connor's idealism. All the rest were contradictory.

Not really. Haytham keeps telling you that these men who are fighting for freedom are only fighting for their own power, which turns out true. Haythams final speech to Connor made it clear to day Connor was simply a naive idiot who didn't form any real opinion on what he is doing.

Modifié par Mr.House, 10 décembre 2013 - 05:16 .

[Mr.House]

simfamSP wrote...

American independence: It's already in the name, really. The templars woudn't support freedom when they're seeking control. It just felt like a ham-fisted way to make the conflict seem greyer than it really was.

But it is grey. It's *very* grey. Peace through control is not an 'evil' motive. The problem being that such power corrupts a man.

When Haytham fights Connor I agreed with a lot of what he said. People will naturally look for an established hierarchy for guidance. There can never be 'liberty' in the sense that Connor wants.

Their conflict needs to carry on. They compliment each other and keep a balance of power. Ultimately though, the war between Assassin's and Templars has becoming a lot more person for the former side than the latter. I feel it's more about simply surviving than for their overall cause.

What's funny is Haythams last worfs do in fact come true as we all know what happens later with these so called "great man" fighting for freedom that Connor helped did.

[DirtyPhoenix]

Finished it a few hours ago. I thought I'd never get an AC game as good (or better) than AC2 with the yearly rehashes and the disappointment that AC3 was, but here it is, before my eyes

The world is simply breathtaking, from Havana to the small island, those girls singling in the taverns (which I could listen to hours), Kingston felt like a better version of AC3's cities. Havana left like Florence and Constantinople had a lovechild. Everything was so beautiful.

The gameplay was surprisingly true to the traditional AC formula. I knew this would be a good pirate game but had feared the pirate stuff would overshadow the AC gameplay. But it wasn't. To my surprise most of the missions take place on land and most of them can be completed fully stealthily. So I can't take any of the Hurr durr Pirate's Creed folks seriously now.

Story was simple, but well-told. The pacing was tight and the side characters were well-fleshed out. AC3's problem was that it put historical characters into the game just to tick off a checklist. Connor present during the Continental Congress? wtf! Just so that that important meeting can be included in the story. None of it was in AC4, the events and characters felt flowing naturally into each other.

Lastly Edward, surprisingly his character was a lot similar to Connor in respect that they both chase unrealistic goals, **** everything up around them and land hard on their bellies. Only thing is Edward gets a chance to undo the damage. Overall a brilliant game, pleasantly surprised after what AC3 was. Definitely better than AC2 imo.

..And admit me to the Haytham Kenway fanboy club as well .. He truly is the best protag from all these games

EntropicAngel wrote...

American independence: It's already in the name, really. The templars woudn't support freedom when they're seeking control.

Ofcourse they would. They'd want control for THEMSELVES. That meanst detaching the colonies from the crown and wresting it under their contol. What they were trying to do with Charles ready to take command. Isn't it what haytham said, that this was supposed to be the example of the perfect society, one raised under Templar control?

simfamSP wrote...Hell, I swear the game would have been a thousand times better if the bloody kid became a Templar in the end.

Omg then it would have all fit perfectly into place!

My favourite parts were Haytham and when Connor was actually working with Daddy. Their relationship was a blast to see on screen.

Agreed. They were the best moments of the game.

Modifié par pirate1802, 10 décembre 2013 - 09:52 .

[LPPrince]

Agreed on Connor and Haytham working together. That stuff was tight.

But yeah, basically the Templars were trying to split the colonies from The British so that they could control it themselves. Have their own New World. Connor believed that if Washington and co. were in control of the colonies, his people and the rest in the colonies would have more freedoms, wouldn't be oppressed, etc etc.

Look how that turned out. Haytham and co. told him, and he didn't listen but hey, his people got pushed West and he didn't get a chance to say goodbye!

Connor is gaaah

[Mr.House]

LPPrince wrote...

Agreed on Connor and Haytham working together. That stuff was tight.

But yeah, basically the Templars were trying to split the colonies from The British so that they could control it themselves. Have their own New World. Connor believed that if Washington and co. were in control of the colonies, his people and the rest in the colonies would have more freedoms, wouldn't be oppressed, etc etc.

Look how that turned out. Haytham and co. told him, and he didn't listen but hey, his people got pushed West and he didn't get a chance to say goodbye!

Connor is gaaah

What irks me is Connor still blamed Lee for his mothers death when it was Washington who did it. Sure he broke ties with the man, but then he still kept going after Lee

[Puzzlewell]

Finally got to spend some proper time with the game in the last few days. My brother-in-law got it on PS4 so I've just brought my PSN account over and am playing it that way.

I'll start off by saying that even though I'm still only on sequence 2, I'm having so much more fun with it than I did 3. That's not to say I didn't completely enjoy 3, there were parts of it I did generally like but like a few of you have said, it really started to burn me out of the series. Connor is kind of polarizing even for me. I felt for his naivety to a point considering the culture shock and all that, but him being a snot to Achilles really drove me up a wall. One thing that 3 did right in my book though was bringing back that the Templars are just the opposite side of the perspective coin to the Assassins. Sure it makes a bit of sense that the Borgias lead Templars would be about decadence and all that but I prefer when they're viewed in the more grey standpoint of 1 and 3.

AC2 and Brotherhood really made the series something I'd say I love, even if I was there from AC1 (still haven't properly beat the first though cause the pacing just killed me). I'll reserve officially saying it til I've completed 4, but so far I feel like it can happily go right next to those two as fine examples of why I love the series.

Modifié par CalamityRanger, 10 décembre 2013 - 04:27 .