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Dat ending to AC4 tho

It was nice

A lot less sad than AC3's


I didn't find it less sad, personally. Just less depressing. AC3 was depressing because everything was abject failure for Connor. His people left, which was what he was fighting for in the first place. The colonists that he began fighting for were both hurting his people (consider Washington's burning of the village) and holding/selling others as slaves. Edward's story was major sad for me, because of all the people he lost, but at least he became a better person and did some good in the end. Everything Connor seemed to do went against him.

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Not really. Haytham keeps telling you that these men who are fighting for freedom are only fighting for their own power, which turns out true. Haythams final speech to Connor made it clear to day Connor was simply a naive idiot who didn't form any real opinion on what he is doing.


How does any of that contradict what i said?

Templars want peace through control. Control is most effective when consolidated. Thus, helping the colonists doesn't advance the Templar ideals at all.

I'll agree that Connor was an idealist who got lost along the way. That, in my opinion, was what made him such a moving protagonist.

Thomas Hickey. Just remembered. "Sure, I'm in it for wine and women. But I've got what I wanted. You, boy...your hands will always be empty."


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But it is grey. It's *very* grey. Peace through control is not an 'evil' motive. The problem being that such power corrupts a man. 

When Haytham fights Connor I agreed with a lot of what he said. People will naturally look for an established hierarchy for guidance. There can never be 'liberty' in the sense that Connor wants. 

Their conflict needs to carry on. They compliment each other and keep a balance of power. Ultimately though, the war between Assassin's and Templars has becoming a lot more person for the former side than the latter. I feel it's more about simply surviving than for their overall cause.


I'm not saying it ISN'T grey.

I was actually thinking about it a bit today. It IS grey because a lot of what the Templars say is true. People ARE weak on their own. They DO follow the path of least resistance, of chaos, to their own destruction, when ungoverned.

That being true, though, doesn't validate the hypocrisy of Templars supporting colonial "freedom."


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Ofcourse they would. They'd want control for THEMSELVES. That meanst detaching the colonies from the crown and wresting it under their contol. What they were trying to do with Charles ready to take command. Isn't it what haytham said, that this was supposed to be the example of the perfect society, one raised under Templar control?


But they don't actually have control. Washington does. Further, while them controlling the colonies would be great (for them) in and of itself, it's flawed to not consolidate and go after the center of power. They should have been trying to get control of England, not a backwoods bunch of colonies.

Modifié par EntropicAngel, 10 décembre 2013 - 05:31 .


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Helping the colonists advances the Templar ideals because the colonists would need a figurehead to lead them.

The Templars would place Charles Lee in that position. By doing that, the Templars would effectively have control over the colonies.

Washington, being neither Assassin nor Templar, would just be the guy that he is. Which as far as AC3 goes, equates to douche.

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Basically as AC3 demonstrates, there were MUCH better people that could've been in Washington's place in history.

Charles Lee just wasn't one of them from the perspective of Connor and the assassins because Lee was a templar.

Funny thing is, had the templars had control of the colonies, perhaps the natives would've been better off.

Modifié par LPPrince, 10 décembre 2013 - 05:31 .


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EntropicAngel wrote...

LPPrince wrote...

Dat ending to AC4 tho

It was nice

A lot less sad than AC3's


I didn't find it less sad, personally. Just less depressing. AC3 was depressing because everything was abject failure for Connor. His people left, which was what he was fighting for in the first place. The colonists that he began fighting for were both hurting his people (consider Washington's burning of the village) and holding/selling others as slaves. Edward's story was major sad for me, because of all the people he lost, but at least he became a better person and did some good in the end. Everything Connor seemed to do went against him.


I made the mistake of reading Assassin's Creed Forsaken. AC4 being less depressing goes right out of the window with that book and it turns Edwards story from bittersweet into a genuine downer ending.

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Only if you metagame. I know the events of Forsaken as well, but I was happy for them.

In the moment.

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Right, I'm reading Forsaken now and damn does Edward get a raw deal. Also poor Haytham.

Modifié par pirate1802, 11 décembre 2013 - 03:00 .


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Launch Trailer for Tomorrow's SP DLC.

Let they're be a cry for Freedom! it is up to you now to become the game's first Black Assassin!

www.youtube.com/watch

Modifié par Vez04, 16 décembre 2013 - 07:18 .


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Vez04 wrote...

Launch Trailer for Tomorrow's SP DLC.

Let they're be a cry for Freedom! it is up to you now to become the game's first Black Assassin!

www.youtube.com/watch


Say what?:huh:

http://assassinscree...ine_de_Grandpré

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 The Freedom Cry DLC looks really good. I shall have a play tonight.  I missed Adewale towards the end of BF. But it takes place 15 years after BF and after what happens in Forsaken :crying:.

Edit - I wonder who else will feature in the DLC in future (that's if there will be any further SP DLC). I just read that this is  Adewale's story "fully delivered" on the Ubisoft website, because at first I thought this may be a series of stories featuring him.

Modifié par Newschmoo, 17 décembre 2013 - 06:49 .


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Newschmoo wrote...

 The Freedom Cry DLC looks really good. I shall have a play tonight.  I missed Adewale towards the end of BF. But it takes place 15 years after BF and after what happens in Forsaken :crying:.

I wonder who else will feature in the DLC in future? Do you think there will be more of Adewale, or do you think we will ever see Edward again? 


I'm still hoping for Achilles. Now that I think about it, it could make sense for him to show up in this DLC. He's of Caribbean descent, recruited around the 1730s...

Another Haytham centered story would also make me happy, though Forsaken pretty much covered him, apparently. 

Modifié par SergeantSnookie, 17 décembre 2013 - 06:47 .


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Oh yes, he was recruited around that time. I would love to see a story about a young Achilles. And if it featured Adewale too, even better. I have read that Adewale has his own brig!

I am a bit of a Haytham fan. I was a bit gutted when he turned out to be a templar. Still really liked him though, a lot more than Connor!

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Everyone likes Haytham more than Connor.

Modifié par LPPrince, 17 décembre 2013 - 06:59 .


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OdanUrr wrote...

Vez04 wrote...

Launch Trailer for Tomorrow's SP DLC.

Let they're be a cry for Freedom! it is up to you now to become the game's first Black Assassin!

www.youtube.com/watch


Say what?:huh:

http://assassinscree...ine_de_Grandpré


Well ok i'll fix that.

Now you can be the game's first Black Male Assassin!

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Aveline was secretly a dude tho

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LPPrince wrote...

Everyone likes Haytham more than Connor.


Fact. And reading Forsaken made me like Haytham even more. 

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LPPrince wrote...

Aveline was secretly a dude tho


Lol m8.

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Aveline was secretly a dude tho


I'd still tap that.

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MAKE IT STOP!!!

Rumor Patrol: Will Ubisoft Release 2 Different ‘Assassin’s Creed’ Sequels in 2014?

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Vez04 wrote...

OdanUrr wrote...

Vez04 wrote...

Launch Trailer for Tomorrow's SP DLC.

Let they're be a cry for Freedom! it is up to you now to become the game's first Black Assassin!

www.youtube.com/watch


Say what?:huh:

http://assassinscree...ine_de_Grandpré


Well ok i'll fix that.

Now you can be the game's first playable Black Male Assassin!


FTFY

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MAKE IT STOP!!!

Rumor Patrol: Will Ubisoft Release 2 Different ‘Assassin’s Creed’ Sequels in 2014?


One title a year is enough for me.  I don't have nearly enough spare time to play games as I would like! 

This piqued my interest though - "Ever since Black Flag was first released, rumors have circulated that the publisher could be planning a pirate-themed spinoff (possibly following the ongoing adventures of Edward Kenway)"  If they did such a thing, it is unlikely it will be next year, but in the future, this would be great Image IPB.

Even if it didn't feature Edward (although I do love him as a character), I would still be interested.

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I wouldn't. I'm done with being drawn in by the ship battles. It was there for a little bit in AC3, and was all over the place in AC4. Great, but move on. Try something else.

Best way to create fatigue is to rehash the same things over and over, especially after one of your games required quite the grinding to upgrade your stuff.

Its why I have zero fatigue for AC combat gameplay or movement within its game worlds. But ship battles are its own unique thing, and I've played it in two consecutive releases, the latter with grinding, so I'd rather not do that again.

If they think they can make games outside of AC with the ship battle stuff and thats what people want, more power to them. I'll personally pass though.

Modifié par LPPrince, 21 décembre 2013 - 04:33 .


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I present to you the amazing "Ascension of the Jackdaw" glitch. Enjoy:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=9pQ_ZozZIio

edit: be sure to have your volume on for this

Modifié par BouncyFrag, 26 décembre 2013 - 01:26 .


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BouncyFrag wrote...

I present to you the amazing "Ascension of the Jackdaw" glitch. Enjoy:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=9pQ_ZozZIio

edit: be sure to have your volume on for this

lol:O

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I'm going to regret this.

I liked the Modern mission more.

Seriously, I love the concept of hacking inside a company and learning secrets, all those project vids, and those text information.

The Desmond logs really show his change in character and the Subject Zero logs are just freaky.

I want a short game based on the company thing, but expanded. Short though, so it doesn't outstay it's welcome.