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[megabeast37215]

Sounds like some on BSN haven't gotten this guy figured out yet. I've put 3 games on him and I think I have a pretty good idea so far. He's my favorite kit in the DLC so far. Here goes:

This is the build:

6 - Dark Sphere - Detonation Radius, Damage Over Time, Unstable Dark Sphere
6 - Seeker Swarm - Slow, Damage Reduction, Swarm Count
6 - Dark Channel - Damage, Slow, Pierce
5 - Passive - Power/Capacity, Power
3 - Fitness

I was using Stronghold/Cyclonic II or III.... may put more in fitness and take rank 5 out of the passive. He is squishy. I rocked a Collector SMG X, with Extended Clip and the Power Amp mod, used AP ammo since I didn't have a slot for the High Velocity Barrel.

I may change things later when I figure out how to properly apply the benefits of Ascension Stance... but that eludes me so far. Need to respec and mess with it.

Strategy:

You can get a lot of powers off in a very short time, which leads to MASSIVE AOE damage and several Biotic Explosions.

Cast Swarms. When you see a group, send Dark Sphere their way. ***IMPORTANT*** Cast Dark Channel on somethiing in the group BEFORE the Sphere gets there. Dark Sphere does not trigger a cooldown unless you detonate it. When the Sphere arrives at the group, detonate it (9 meters of boom and Biotic Priming). Now you should have several primed enemies... target each one induvidually with a Swarm and get Biotic Explosions on all of them, in addition to the ridiculous damage you just did by detonating the Sphere. If anything survived, clean up with your weapon, re-cast Swarms... rinse and repeat.

It's that easy.

Summary: Have Swarms on at all times. Cast Sphere at target, Dark Channel target, detonate Sphere, throw swarms at everything.

If anyone has found a way to spec him and utilize Ascension Stance... I'd love to hear it, and see your build. Please don't use the Narida thing... it's a big mess of text and I don't know how to read it.

Discuss

MB Out...

Modifié par megabeast37215, 27 février 2013 - 01:05 .

[Original Twigman]

i wanna play so bad

[Canned Madness]

I've tried an ascension mode build but the 40% extra damage you take makes him even more squishy.

[megabeast37215]

Original Stikman wrote...

i wanna play so bad

I want you to play too.... let's make it happen tonight stud.

[Mixon]

Modifié par Mixon, 27 février 2013 - 12:44 .

[Saints]

Original Stikman wrote...

i wanna play so bad

Like I said if you need help...

[Original Twigman]

megabeast37215 wrote...

Original Stikman wrote...

i wanna play so bad

I want you to play too.... let's make it happen tonight stud.

...............

[Original Twigman]

Saints944 wrote...

Original Stikman wrote...

i wanna play so bad

Like I said if you need help...

i need people wit l33t skills... like you and megabeast

I'll be on later tonight... maybe 8:30-9pm Pacific time... can only get a few hours in though

[BurningLiquor]

Are his Dark Sphere and Swarm powers unaffected by power recharge from weapon weight?

I have 180% power recharge and they still have an 7-8 second recharge time.

[megabeast37215]

Saints944 wrote...

Original Stikman wrote...

i wanna play so bad

Like I said if you need help...

Saints: Do you approve of the information in the OP?

[megabeast37215]

BurningLiquor wrote...

Are his Dark Sphere and Swarm powers unaffected by power recharge from weapon weight?

I have 180% power recharge and they still have an 7-8 second recharge time.

Weapon weight affects them... they are just so damn powerful... that they needed long cooldowns to balance them.

If you don't detonate Sphere... you get no cooldown. It still primes everything near it... and you detonate with swarms.

[BurningLiquor]

megabeast37215 wrote...

BurningLiquor wrote...

Are his Dark Sphere and Swarm powers unaffected by power recharge from weapon weight?

I have 180% power recharge and they still have an 7-8 second recharge time.

Weapon weight affects them... they are just so damn powerful... that they needed long cooldowns to balance them.

If you don't detonate Sphere... you get no cooldown. It still primes everything near it... and you detonate with swarms.

I guess I have to practice with him more... I really want to learn him.

When I first tried him I went down nearly immediately. On Silver. 

[megabeast37215]

MasterReefa wrote...

I max out everything except Seeker Swarm and take 6a fitness. PPR with warp ammo, dark channel on anything + shoot what I want dead. Dark Sphere groups then dark channel + shoot whatever survives.

You could do that too... but we already have a bunch of other kits to turn into Heavy Weapons/Warp Ammo users (Valkyrie, Huntress, BatAdept, Turian Sentinel, etc.). This kit is so unique... I would feel bad playing him that way.

[megabeast37215]

Original Stikman wrote...

Saints944 wrote...

Original Stikman wrote...

i wanna play so bad

Like I said if you need help...

i need people wit l33t skills... like you and megabeast

I'll be on later tonight... maybe 8:30-9pm Pacific time... can only get a few hours in though

Just calll my naaaaaaaaammmmmmeee... and I'll be there.... "I'll be there"...

[Saints]

megabeast37215 wrote...

Saints944 wrote...

Original Stikman wrote...

i wanna play so bad

Like I said if you need help...

Saints: Do you approve of the information in the OP?

Um... the thing is I don't spec into DC at all. Works great since I had to carry 7 pug games in the morning with my Collector. It's a good concept though.

Modifié par Saints944, 27 février 2013 - 12:40 .

[BurningLiquor]

You should make a gameplay vid of the Collector adept Megabeast.

Would help baddies like me learn to play him. lol

[me0120]

I went a different route to utilize the beam cannon. Not sure how I like it yet since I only used it in one game but basically it uses DOT and primer + warp rounds to do damage. I offset the Ascension Stance by keeping the Seeker Swarms for the DR. The beam cannon's long fire time is used while the long cooldown is going.

Not very original or difficult to use but it tore Collectors up.

[megabeast37215]

Saints944 wrote...Um... the thing is I don't spec into DC at all. Works great since I had to carry 7 pug games in the morning with my Collector.

That's his boss killer power... for me anyway.

What were you doing with the Fitness? How did it benefit you? I'm not chastising you, I'm curious as to your logic behind it... other than Survivability of course.

Have you found a way to utilize Ascension Stance yet? I have yet to give it a fair shake.

[megabeast37215]

BurningLiquor wrote...

You should make a gameplay vid of the Collector adept Megabeast.

Would help baddies like me learn to play him. lol

I would need Caineghis or InvaderOne to do that for me... I have no recording equipment. I tried to spell it out in very plain language above...

If you have any questions, I'll happily answer them. That's what this thread is for

Modifié par megabeast37215, 27 février 2013 - 12:43 .

[HeroicMass]

don't worry mega, I will teach you how to play this class once I have a chance to get on tomorrow night.

[FlashAK]

Original Stikman wrote...

i wanna play so bad

Let me guess, the infamous Stikman nerf keeping you from playing? Can't wait to get on myself to try things out later.

@mega: Does dark sphere prime targets on detonation? Or only when it passes over them?

I'll probably go with a 6/6/6/4/4 build since the consensus seems to be that he's pretty fragile.

[Mixon]

megabeast37215 wrote...

Sounds like some on BSN haven't gotten this guy figured out yet. I've put 3 games on him and I think I have a pretty good idea so far. He's my favorite kit in the DLC so far. Here goes:

This is the build:

6 - Dark Sphere - Detonation Radius, Damage Over Time, Unstable Dark Sphere
6 - Seeker Swarm - Slow, Damage Reduction, Swarm Count
6 - Dark Channel - Damage, Slow, Pierce
5 - Passive - Power/Capacity, Power
3 - Fitness

I was using Stronghold/Cyclonic II or III.... may put more in fitness and take rank 5 out of the passive. He is squishy. I rocked a Collector SMG X, with Extended Clip and the Power Amp mod, used AP ammo since I didn't have a slot for the High Velocity Barrel.

I may change things later when I figure out how to properly apply the benefits of Ascension Stance... but that eludes me so far. Need to respec and mess with it.

Strategy:

You can get a lot of powers off in a very short time, which leads to MASSIVE AOE damage and several Biotic Explosions.

Cast Swarms. When you see a group, send Dark Sphere their way. ***IMPORTANT*** Cast Dark Channel on somethiing in the group BEFORE the Sphere gets there. Dark Sphere does not trigger a cooldown unless you detonate it. When the Sphere arrives at the group, detonate it (9 meters of boom). Now you should have several primed enemies... target each one induvidually with a Swarm and get Biotic Explosions on all of them, in addition to the ridiculous damage you just did by detonating the Sphere. If anything survived, clean up with your weapon, re-cast Swarms... rinse and repeat.

It's that easy.

Summary: Have Swarms on at all times. Cast Sphere at target, Dark Channel target, detonate Sphere, throw swarms at everything.

If anyone has found a way to spec him and utilize Ascension Stance... I'd love to hear it, and see your build. Please don't use the Narida thing... it's a big mess of text and I don't know how to read it.

Discuss

MB Out...

in build where u have 5/6(passive) points the last one skill (6) seems very sweet, about + power 20% more, what do u think?

Modifié par Mixon, 27 février 2013 - 12:45 .

[megabeast37215]

MasterReefa wrote...

Yeah my way getting boring real quick. I didn't know Seeker Swarm detonated combos. 

I gotcha... yeah... it's basically Biotic Orbs made of green bugs, with DR instead of Recharge Speed.

I find all the slow evolutions pretty underwhelming... might change that rank 4 from Slow to Recharge Speed so I can get back to casting a little faster... but the difference was only like 3/4 of a second... I didn't that such a small difference was worth it.