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[megabeast37215]

Grumpy Old Wizard wrote...

I would not put a PPR or any weapon that requires sustained firing on any caster.  I haven't had a chance to play him yet but I'm probably going to try a Scorpion X as that will add crowd control, something that he lacks according to everything I've read. CSMG is nice for casters too, although offers no crowd control. I haven't really looked at the new weapons, so I'll have to see how they can complement his abilities.

The Dark Channel stagger does a good job of backing enemies off of you... and the Dark Sphere does a good job of outright killing things in front of you, and then they are all primed for BEs.

After my first game with him... that was my initial impression. I need to pack a Scorpion for CC. But after I learned how to play him, I didn't feel the need for it at all.

See Grumpy? I like Casters too... and playing them like Casters

[painforest]

Did you play him on Gold, mega? Did not really get a chance to see Dark Sphere killing a lot of mooks since I took him to plat and was just setting it up and instantly detonating it. Will it outright kill mooks with its detonation?

[megabeast37215]

EvoSigma wrote...

My question is which weapons are you using on him? I have a PPR VII and I tried that on him and he does certainly have some great damage output but he suffers greatly from the cooldowns which cripples his power output. I also have a collector SMG IV but I never personally liked the gun myself. I wonder if it's any better on him though due to that 10% boost... Cooldowns would also be pretty nice.

Also, I don't spec fully into dark channel since many of the later evolution are simply for cooldowns or more DoT damage when I simply want to use it as a primer. I may be incorrect but I don't find the full six points necessary.

Any good light weapon that can be made strong against armor would be fine.

Carnifex, Paladin, Hurricane, CSMG, Talon, Arc Pistol... hell even then Tempest would be fine. All those weapons allow for the SMG/Pistol Power Amp mod also... which is very very nice on him.

Dark Channel is his boss killer... but you have to take the Barrier/Armor evo at rank 6. As you kill everything in the spawns, it keeps jumping around and you keep targetting the primed enemy with Swarms. It fits him wonderfully, and the short cooldown allows you to keep spamming Dark Sphere... and it's good for picking off that lone Marauder here and there. There is also... dropping it on a Phantom and walking away, which is always nice.

[BOSSTER23]

Hey beast nice build...It's good you are showing off your build skills man

[bd2eazy]

best class in the DLC.

skip seekers. Dark Sphere for groups/bigger units .
dc + warp ammo for whatever manages to be left.

who needs BE's when u have DS.

Modifié par bd2eazy, 27 février 2013 - 02:22 .

[capn233]

I made mine zero fitness to start with.

I have played one game so far. I think it would have been slightly better with less latency, but the guy is pretty good. I was just running the Collector SMG.

[han shot shepard]

BurningLiquor wrote...

Are his Dark Sphere and Swarm powers unaffected by power recharge from weapon weight?

I have 180% power recharge and they still have an 7-8 second recharge time.

I think its cause Sphere goes boom... I have the radius and the 100% implode damage and it kills muliple dragoons and phantoms pretty much on detonation on silver...... he's dangerous, so squishy tho

[Moby]

Mega makes the best threads.

When are you jumping back on? The PUGs today are horrifically bad.

[megabeast37215]

painforest wrote...

That is exactly how I spec him and how I play him. Really good kit, takes a bit of getting used to. I'd be interested to see a build that makes use of Ascension though. It's basically like an extra power and I think it could be really useful.

Painfawwest is sooooo awesome

[megabeast37215]

xSNPx ZoDiaC wrote...
I'm not sure if it's just me but Dark Sphere seems a little buggy at times. It seems like the supposed damge over time is not being applied. I can see the enemies health "taking damage" but never actually going down despite the description saying 500 damage over 7 seconds. Thoughts?


Still getting a hang of him, and will try out some different builds. Regardless, he's my favorite character for obvious reasons.  

I didn't take notice of it... I was more worried about targetting the primed enemies with Swarms, but I'll keep an eye on that. 500 damage is $h1t though bro... that's not even going to scratch most Gold enemies.

[Saints]

We should try them in one game sometime.

[megabeast37215]

painforest wrote...

Did you play him on Gold, mega? Did not really get a chance to see Dark Sphere killing a lot of mooks since I took him to plat and was just setting it up and instantly detonating it. Will it outright kill mooks with its detonation?

Yes it killed Marauders outright on Gold... it was also very good at cleaning up the trash groups that Collectors leave all over the place (Swarms, Abominations, Troopers).

Haven't played him verses Carebears and Geth yet.

[megabeast37215]

Saints944 wrote...

We should try them in one game sometime.

I've got to pry you away from the grasp of Bliss since she deleted me... I'd be glad to play with a fellow Spectre... always

[megabeast37215]

MofuggerX wrote...

Mega makes the best threads.

When are you jumping back on? The PUGs today are horrifically bad.

In about 10-15 minutes... I want to respond to everyone and not leave them hanging. It's the 'nice guy' in me coming out.

[Ziegrif]

Yeah I noticed this aswell.
I also recommend taking the DR evo and having 4 swarmers for as many BEs as you possibly can pull off.
You can also streamline the BE process by only using Dark Sphere and Swarmers or a faster version with DC and Swarmers for 1 on 1 fights.
Also the cooldowns are huge and a bit of a bother. Still trying to find a gun for him.
I might actually just completely streamline him and skip DS and replace it with a claymore.

[megabeast37215]

BOSSTER23 wrote...

Hey beast nice build...It's good you are showing off your build skills man

That means a lot coming from you bro.... thanks for the kind words.

(Hey BSN... this guy is amazing and you should all aspire to be as good as him).

[megabeast37215]

Ziegrif wrote...

Yeah I noticed this aswell.
I also recommend taking the DR evo and having 4 swarmers for as many BEs as you possibly can pull off.
You can also streamline the BE process by only using Dark Sphere and Swarmers or a faster version with DC and Swarmers for 1 on 1 fights.
Also the cooldowns are huge and a bit of a bother. Still trying to find a gun for him.
I might actually just completely streamline him and skip DS and replace it with a claymore.

Any good UR Pistol/SMG works fine bro... even some of the Rares. I prefer a fast cooldown on him... the more Dark Spheres detonated the better!

[Moby]

megabeast37215 wrote...

In about 10-15 minutes...

Is that ten to fifteen from when you posted this, or from when I post this reply?

'Cuz y'know, I've got nothing better to do so I'll be watching.

[megabeast37215]

MofuggerX wrote...

megabeast37215 wrote...

In about 10-15 minutes...

Is that ten to fifteen from when you posted this, or from when I post this reply?

'Cuz y'know, I've got nothing better to do so I'll be watching.

It's... Right MFin now!!

[Dr Fury]

Yeah I play with Saints and we both used his build and we wreck everything up. I gotta say I do like this kit, it's a high risk/high reward character if you know how to use him well.

[Saints]

megabeast37215 wrote...

Saints944 wrote...

We should try them in one game sometime.

I've got to pry you away from the grasp of Bliss since she deleted me... I'd be glad to play with a fellow Spectre... always

Really? She deleted you? I wouldn't know because we have not spoke for like a week now.

[Ziegrif]

megabeast37215 wrote...

Ziegrif wrote...

Yeah I noticed this aswell.
I also recommend taking the DR evo and having 4 swarmers for as many BEs as you possibly can pull off.
You can also streamline the BE process by only using Dark Sphere and Swarmers or a faster version with DC and Swarmers for 1 on 1 fights.
Also the cooldowns are huge and a bit of a bother. Still trying to find a gun for him.
I might actually just completely streamline him and skip DS and replace it with a claymore.

Any good UR Pistol/SMG works fine bro... even some of the Rares. I prefer a fast cooldown on him... the more Dark Spheres detonated the better!

Aye but I need a boss gun. The Sphere is specced to kill the general mooks in one shot, tried a 110% cd with a Saber 9 and it was adequate but not enough. I need something more destructive.

Oh and just an FYI for everyone.
You can negate fall stagger by doing a dodge with him. Simple really.

Death stagger negation is tricky. You need to first do a Light or heavy melee, wait a split second and then dodge the hell away. There's a small timing to it that's easy to mess up. Very dangerous aswell if you Heavy melee up you're extremely open.

Modifié par Ziegrif, 27 février 2013 - 02:52 .

[Jonathan Shepard]

Tried out this build as a test on silver solo, and it was beastly. I wasn't sure about DC, but it's actually what really makes this character work.

[Grumpy Old Wizard]

Questions:
1) Do seeker swarm DOTs stack on an enemy?
2) Does the slow from swarm and dark channel stack on an enemy?

[megabeast37215]

Ziegrif wrote...

Aye but I need a boss gun. The Sphere is specced to kill the general mooks in one shot, tried a 110% cd with a Saber 9 and it was adequate but not enough. I need something more destructive.

Oh and just an FYI for everyone.
You can negate fall stagger by doing a dodge with him. Simple really.

Death stagger negation is tricky. You need to first do a Light or heavy melee, wait a split second and then dodge the hell away. There's a small timing to it that's easy to mess up. Very dangerous aswell if you Heavy melee up you're extremely open.

The Collector SMG is a fine boss weapon.... especially if Dark Channel is doing work on said boss.... with AP ammo anyway.