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[Volus Warlord]

With all this emphasis on romance, it seems a bit ironic that Stage 2 of IRL romance is almost entirely omitted from all Bioware Games: REPRODUCTION. The only instance that strikes me ATM were some offhand comments made to charm some blue skinned space [woman of questionable virtue].

So I challenge Bioware to take realism and writing in video games with:

A Pregnant Companion!!

Now, to the unlearned and self-centered, this may sound largely like a limitation. However, this by no means invokes any combat limitations for game purposes, and it does open up two potentially very touching plot points:

1.) The Hunt for a future Stepdad (Romance.. or not)

The PC tries to prove himself worthy to the future mother. Or at least help find someone who is.

2.) The Hunt for the Baby Daddy

Who knocked her up? Will you ever know? Does she even know? 

Now, I don't expect birth or anything like that to be in the game. But, if the plot is in a relatively short time frame, say 3-5 months, that may not be too much an issue. 

All of our deep, mature romances have largely been juvenile chat and bang thus far. Add babies and things get serious.

Thoughts?

[jackattack1374]

rape threads and now this? is it "tell the bsn my weird fantasy" week? bioware's here to make a videogame, not an outlet for your fetish.

[RedArmyShogun]

No, no! See you need to add this in but do the DA2 time skip!

You hook up with some girl even one of those elf chicks you could bang in DA:O Then during the time skip half you coin is gone and shes hugely pregnant! Then on the next time skip your kid is five.

[DarkDragon777]

I agree that this is definitely the next evolution of Bioware romance.

[deuce985]

Maybe if it played into endings, sure. In epilogues we can read/see about a child being born. During our adventure? I don't really think it has much place in Bioware stories. Also, it's questionable why ANYONE would take a pregnant woman with them in combat. Perhaps Bioware could explore darker themes with that but I think they'd rather stay away from it for obvious reasons.

I wouldn't mind it if it's done well. I can't think of many scenarios where it would work well though, IMO. I guess that's why I don't work for Bioware.

Modifié par deuce985, 27 février 2013 - 01:02 .

[deuce985]

Cthulhu42 wrote...

Well, we did get to knock up Morrigan in DA:O.

And it worked well in that case.

However, I'm not sure how they could explain how a companion is pregnant and we're pushing her into combat with potential miscarriages happening...

In Morrigan's case, the Dark Ritual played a lot into magic and we never saw her again(until the DLC). I'm all for new themes for Bioware to play with but I don't think this is one where it's easy to put into a story with a companion romance unless it plays after the story is over.

Modifié par deuce985, 27 février 2013 - 01:06 .

[Inquisitor Recon]

It must be my privilege talking but I imagine being several months pregnant would be a restriction in combat.

[Fast Jimmy]

For what it's worth? Baldur's Gate 2 had a romance that could result in pregnancy, Aerie.

If your LI got injured in combat, the baby had a risk of miscarrying. If the baby made it to term, you got a little baby to carry around in your LI's inventory backpack.

I swear, I'm not making this up.

[deuce985]

Inquisitor Recon wrote...

It must be my privilege talking but I imagine being several months pregnant would be a restriction in combat.

I suppose it could work like that. Once she's pregnant, never take her into combat again. I personally wouldn't be a fan of losing a companion into combat because she's pregnant.

What about female PCs though? Would they never have the option of pregnancy too? That would seem a little one-sided, IMO.

[Volus Warlord]

Fast Jimmy wrote...

For what it's worth? Baldur's Gate 2 had a romance that could result in pregnancy, Aerie.

If your LI got injured in combat, the baby had a risk of miscarrying. If the baby made it to term, you got a little baby to carry around in your LI's inventory backpack.

I swear, I'm not making this up.

I might actually look into that game now.

[deuce985]

Fast Jimmy wrote...

For what it's worth? Baldur's Gate 2 had a romance that could result in pregnancy, Aerie.

If your LI got injured in combat, the baby had a risk of miscarrying. If the baby made it to term, you got a little baby to carry around in your LI's inventory backpack.

I swear, I'm not making this up.

I don't remember this but it's been so long since I played that game.

[syllogi]

Marge Gunderson was pretty kicking rad in Fargo. She was a cop first and foremost, who just happened to be pregnant.

Other than her, most of the time if a character is introduced who is pregnant, it's their big conflict, like Juno or Rosemary's Baby. Even Lori's character arc on The Walking Dead was mostly about her internal conflict regarding the potential fathers and her worry about giving birth. It would have to be really well written, if the character's whole storyline was about pregnancy.

As for romance, ehh. I've been pregnant, it was definitely not an attractive feeling time for me. I can't imagine wanting to start a brand new relationship in that situation, for that matter.

[A Crusty Knight Of Colour]

It's not only a logical evolution (or even re-addition) for the romances in BioWare games, it's also good for inclusiveness.

People are always talking about new and exciting and real ways for players to connect with their love interests and I think this may be a fantastic idea. The other added benefit would be hopefully for pregnant love interests to pave the way in accepting less than physical perfection. Perhaps the stigma behind overweight love interests could be tackled.

It's well known that BioWare leads the way in the industry in it's progressive approach to love interests. I hope one day the industry gets over it's fat-bigotry and maybe BioWare can also revolutionize games in this manner too. As a starting point, pregnant LIs would be great.

Modifié par CrustyBot, 27 février 2013 - 01:17 .

[syllogi]

Fast Jimmy wrote...

For what it's worth? Baldur's Gate 2 had a romance that could result in pregnancy, Aerie.

If your LI got injured in combat, the baby had a risk of miscarrying. If the baby made it to term, you got a little baby to carry around in your LI's inventory backpack.

I swear, I'm not making this up.

And if you reject Aerie when she tells the Bhaalspawn she's pregnant, one of the possible lines was something like "take a hike, mommy"...

I'm getting misty eyed.

[Fast Jimmy]

It was, just like all Baldur's Gate romance, really hard to get (ah, the good ole' days).

It could only happen if you successfully navigate her romance without scaring her off in BG2, then continue the romance into the Throne of Bhaal expansion. It also takes a RIDICULOUS amount of time. Most players, if they follow all the right steps, will only get the prompt that she is pregnant towards the end of the expansion. You have to advance time in the game a whole lot to get the actual birth to trigger. Nothing exciting really happens, just a few lines of text, and then the baby-in-the-backpack thing.

It is mentioned in the ending with Aerie's epilogue, but nothing huge. It remains the same if you get Aerie pregnant and then beat the game, or if you "wait it out" so to speak.

The fact that they had a risk of the baby miscarried was pretty stunning, to me at least. I think they might have received a lot of flak from it if they hadn't made the romances nearly a hidden Easter Egg in those games.

[ObserverStatus]

You know, this isn't a bad idea, Bioware could even make DLC where the baby is born!  The baby could be disk locked content, if you don't buy the expansion before the baby comes to turn, your LI miscarries. After that, you could make a microtransaction to buy an armored baby carrier!

Modifié par bobobo878, 27 février 2013 - 01:25 .

[Firky]

Aerie could miscarry? Are you sure? Do you mean, like, if she had to be resurrected or something and it was a glitch?

Eeek. (I think I always assumed she was protected with fairy magic.)

Inquisitor Recon wrote...

It must be my privilege talking but I imagine being several months pregnant would be a restriction in combat.

Well, when I was preggers I just wanted to lay on the beach and eat chips, if that helps.

[HiroVoid]

Doesn't the new Fire Emblem game do a timeskip or somthing for certain comanions' kids to fight when they're older. I also remember thinking you could play as a female pregnant Fable II character when I was younger.

[deuce985]

Fast Jimmy wrote...

It was, just like all Baldur's Gate romance, really hard to get (ah, the good ole' days).

It could only happen if you successfully navigate her romance without scaring her off in BG2, then continue the romance into the Throne of Bhaal expansion. It also takes a RIDICULOUS amount of time. Most players, if they follow all the right steps, will only get the prompt that she is pregnant towards the end of the expansion. You have to advance time in the game a whole lot to get the actual birth to trigger. Nothing exciting really happens, just a few lines of text, and then the baby-in-the-backpack thing.

It is mentioned in the ending with Aerie's epilogue, but nothing huge. It remains the same if you get Aerie pregnant and then beat the game, or if you "wait it out" so to speak.

The fact that they had a risk of the baby miscarried was pretty stunning, to me at least. I think they might have received a lot of flak from it if they hadn't made the romances nearly a hidden Easter Egg in those games.

That and PC gaming isn't really mainstream. I think that's really cool and a bold move on Bioware's part to at least play with a theme like that. I don't think it would work very well now considering how high their appeal is. FOX News blasted them for having a blue back...I mean seriously? Didn't even show nudity.

Witcher 2 didn't get that kind of controversy because it started out on PCs, which the media doesn't care to cover since it's not mainstream appeal.

Makes me want to play Baldur's Gate 2 again just to see this...

Modifié par deuce985, 27 février 2013 - 01:23 .

[Sejborg]

Abort mission. Abort mis.. I mean baby. Abort baby!

[A Crusty Knight Of Colour]

Firky wrote...

Well, when I was preggers I just wanted to lay on the beach and eat chips, if that helps.

"Screw your combat orders, Inqusitor. I'm going to the beach to eat some chips."

[Sabariel]

No.

[/Sten]

[Volus Warlord]

CrustyBot wrote...

Firky wrote...

Well, when I was preggers I just wanted to lay on the beach and eat chips, if that helps.

"Screw your combat orders, Inqusitor. I'm going to the beach to eat some chips."

So maybe they'd be out for a few missions.