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[Rawgrim]

EpicBoot2daFace wrote...

Tootles FTW wrote...

I would find it highly amusing if 'A Baby' showed up in my inventory.

Morrigan's baby.

Yeah, and accidentally selling it to Bodhan or someone.

[EpicBoot2daFace]

Rawgrim wrote...

EpicBoot2daFace wrote...

Tootles FTW wrote...

I would find it highly amusing if 'A Baby' showed up in my inventory.

Morrigan's baby.

Yeah, and accidentally selling it to Bodhan or someone.

Put it in the junk bin.

[Brodoteau]

Three things:

1. As it has been said before: This is what a lack of real information will do to a forum. Please Bioware new DA3 info!

2. While I don't think this really adds to gameplay, this idea is not as outlandish as it seems. As already mentioned, Aerie was pregnant in BG2 (and yes I completed that romance but never waited around long enough for the birth). She repeatedly refused to be sidelined 'in her condition" as well. It was a bit odd. Would most people want a virtual baby? I dunno. But I think it cheapens the idea that kids actually, you know, do take a lot of work. And that the father or mother of a kid, who is constantly adventuring, probably isn't going to be doing a good parenting job. (Again touched on in BG2 with Keldorn's personal quest where you realize that the old paladin hadn't been paying attention to his wife).

3. The Baby Daddy story has already been in a lot of Bioware games. You had Oghren in Awakening. Jacob in ME3.
But the classic has to be Coran in BG. Where the mother (who was cheating with Coran) actually did come and hunt down Coran and you had to help her out. And no, I'm not making that up.

Modifié par Brodoteau, 27 février 2013 - 07:32 .

[Orian Tabris]

MinttyMint wrote...

Orian Tabris wrote...

MinttyMint wrote...

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Why can't companions be pregnant towards the end of the game? You still won't see the babies.

Some people here seem to believe that because a character is pregnant, that must mean there has to be an actual birth in-game. That is not true. Just because a character gets pregnant, does not mean there needs to parenthood or drama between characters. If this idea gets implemented and it is a companion (there wouldn't be more than one), as with all romance paths in Dragon Age, you aren't likely to see disputes between characters.

Since there is no way to find out if someone is pregnant in the DA universe, and such a concept as impregnation never comes up after sleeping with a companion, you will inevitably be forced to choose between companions (like in DA:O). BioWare would not go so far as to say that if you choose one over another, the other one will always be pregnant. They would more likely say that the one you chose would get pregnant, but only that character, so that that character would have their romance storyline follow this concept.

  I suppose they could but then why is it important if theres no drama then its there 'just cause.  "Oh by the way Im pregnant lol have fun in that epic final boss fight!" ...   So if I choose Anna over Betty, Anna is going to get pregnant no matter what and that is her romance arc, that is what defines her as a character "the one who gets preggers"? Great story writing there. What if I as a player dont want that forced upon me? I just cant romance her? So I have two romance options left, Jeff and Betty whom I already pissed of by picking Anna over her great now I guess its gay or nothing well this sucks what happened to choice? Speaking of which what about gay romance? They just dont get that part of the game?  Yeah that seems fair. What if Ive headcannoned my character as sterile... Well damn looks like Anna's been doing the deed behind Johns back or alternatively "tough **** its our character not yours"... Way to alienate your players.  Thats not even touching on how the hell she is going to fight while pregnant, I mean Im sure shes probably very capable even so but that cant be good for the baby... 

So you're saying we won't have a preggo companion? Say it ain't so! That's my whole livelyhood gone!

I guess we'll have to stick to phantom contraceptives like in the first two games! So much for Dragon Age 3 being innovative and turning RPGs on their heads!

[Kidd]

Rawgrim wrote...

EpicBoot2daFace wrote...

Tootles FTW wrote...

I would find it highly amusing if 'A Baby' showed up in my inventory.

Morrigan's baby.

Yeah, and accidentally selling it to Bodhan or someone.

You're a terrible person.


And I love you for it ^^

[Orian Tabris]

renjility wrote...

KiddDaBeauty wrote...

renjility wrote...

Does this mean we get the "try for baby" option on the bed/tent/wherever we sleep like in the Sims?

I would imagine it'd be smoother to have the LI and the PC go over child-bearing in a previous dialogue, with the attitudes the player echoes there being what happens during the lovemaking. Seems more straight-forward and less gamey, with everyone getting what they want.

Dialogue options:
1. (Kiss her)
2. Let's go to bed.
3. Let's try to make a baby!

Option 1 leads to either option 2's outcome, or option 3's outcome. Option 2 leads to option 3. Option 3 leads to hate for Dragon Age: Inquisition. Hate for Dragon Age: Inquisition leads to GOTY being The Witcher 2, Far Cry 3, some Deus Ex game or something, while Dragon Age: Inquisition gets left in the dust and tops IGN's Top 10 Worst Games of 2013 list.

Everyone gets what they want!

[Orian Tabris]

KiddDaBeauty wrote...

Medhia Nox wrote...

Has anyone suggested a "Midwife" spell tree yet? 

I've always been partial to Power Word: Strip from AD&D 2E, myself. It's mostly useful in that plate armour takes several minutes to take off, giving you plenty of time to stabbity stab fools who fail their saving throw.

If the LI fails the saving throw, they get pregnant! Now we get the option to either have a preggo LI, or no preggo LI. All you have to do is reload if you don't get the desired outcome. The saving throw is rolled during the toggle nudity (on or off) sex scene... assuming the fade-to-black toggle has been turned on, otherwise the roll is during the fade to black. PS4 and Xbox 720 gets the [Loading dice roll, please wait... ... ...].

[Kidd]

Orian Tabris wrote...

Option 1 leads to either option 2's outcome, or option 3's outcome. Option 2 leads to option 3. Option 3 leads to hate for Dragon Age: Inquisition. Hate for Dragon Age: Inquisition leads to GOTY being The Witcher 2, Far Cry 3, some Deus Ex game or something, while Dragon Age: Inquisition gets left in the dust and tops IGN's Top 10 Worst Games of 2013 list.

Everyone gets what they want!

Kissing leads to lovemaking, lovemaking leads to kids, kids... lead to FarCry 3?

Modifié par KiddDaBeauty, 27 février 2013 - 09:35 .

[Volus Warlord]

Well this degenerated quickly.

I am sorry that some are offended at the concept of women getting and/or being pregnant.

Thanks to those who had some productive discussion.

[Orian Tabris]

KiddDaBeauty wrote...

Orian Tabris wrote...

Option 1 leads to either option 2's outcome, or option 3's outcome. Option 2 leads to option 3. Option 3 leads to hate for Dragon Age: Inquisition. Hate for Dragon Age: Inquisition leads to GOTY being The Witcher 2, Far Cry 3, some Deus Ex game or something, while Dragon Age: Inquisition gets left in the dust and tops IGN's Top 10 Worst Games of 2013 list.

Everyone gets what they want!

Kissing leads to lovemaking, lovemaking leads to kids, kids... lead to FarCry 3?

Not necessarily Far Cry 3. It might be - cover your ears, and close your mind, Yoda - Call of Duty 3: Black Ops. That, no one wants.

[imbs]

Volus Warlord wrote...

Well this degenerated quickly.

I am sorry that some are offended at the concept of women getting and/or being pregnant.

Thanks to those who had some productive discussion.

You have great potential, son. Managing to imply that not wanting pregnancy can only mean sexism without coming across as if you are joking is a talent many troll-wannabes never manage to achieve. Kudos.

[Swoopdogg]

There needs to be some way to prevent it, if they ever added something like this, which I doubt it.

[Chiramu]

jackattack1374 wrote...

rape threads and now this? is it "tell the bsn my weird fantasy" week? bioware's here to make a videogame, not an outlet for your fetish.

Rape and pregnancy have little in common, the only thing in common is that you can get pregnant through rape but you would not love the child. 
Use your brain jackattack1374...

The problem with pregnancy in a game is one, the model. Bioware would not be able to use the same model for the pregnant individual, and also, if you have a pregnant companion they would not be able to fight very well.  And after the nine months where will she be with the baby?
Another thing, how does this apply for female main characters? Unless you want to be a lesbian, but for me to want to go lesbian with another girl there has to be something damn fine about the other girl for me to even think about it. You don't just go after any and every person. 

I think this idea is better suited for a novel or comic book. It won't really work with a video game because there needs to be fighting in the Dragon Age games.

[andrew252]

it was funny as hell having 20 kids on fable 2 but i dont know what the gameplay aspect of it in dragon age will be,will the daddy/mommy have to carry it around and suffer a damage reduction for an increase defense to guard said baby?

[shootist70]

imbs wrote...

shootist70 wrote...

Subjective and shallow. What makes a decent Bioware game? Just your interpretation? For many It comes down to a lot more than just the mechanics of gameplay. They might want to be involved in strongly driven story, of which romance/companion elements could make up a part of that. That to them, IS 'gameplay'.

Also, decent gameplay mechanics are something we should take for granted from a major developer. Banging on about mechanics is a bit like telling a writer how to form a cohesive narrative without caring what the narrative is about.

You what? Firstly whilst I used some harsh words about the threads on this forum I did not mean story, lore etc were irrelevant. Secondly no, that is by definition not gameplay. You cant randomly deny the definition of a word as it has been used for decades because you don't necessarily like the semantics of said word.

Third you have actually gotten that completely backwards. Gameplay is the one thing an AAA developer is least likely to make good on. Check DA2 out, or Swtor. Not to mention Bioware is known for it's good story, lore. If anything one should be taking good lore/story for granted and be worried about gameplay.

And what is story unless it's driven by elements such as character interaction such as romance, and characers themselves?

And the only person trying to narrow the definition of a word to suit their own argument is yourself. Poor critical ability on your part - it's me that's telling YOU to broaden your definition, and not slam down threads that don't meet your 'standards.'

As for quality of gameplay, there's a whole host of critics out there ready to deliver a sound thrashing to any dev who doesn't come up to scratch. That issue is as old as gaming itself. It's nice to see the forums embrace discussion that's a little more widely spread than those concerns. Live with it.

[John Epler]

And we're done.

I'll be going back through the thread and assigning bans as appropriate. Thrilling!