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[El Mito]

LOL. EA gonna EA.

[mmarty]

Article also says that EA reportedly looking for 5 million sales.

[Fawx9]

MT work in games like DOTA because they are optional, cosmetic and don't harm gameplay.

What EA did to RR3 is a travesty and if that's the future then *** it, I'm out. Having to wait 5-10 minutes just so I can do another race with a new engine is stupid beyond belief.

[levyjl1988]

http://www.gamespot....-report-6404823

If Bioware follows suit I doubt there will be a future after Dragon Age 3. Dragon Age Origins was amazing, Dragon Age 2 was shat on by critics and gamers, now Dragon Age 3 will be among us.
I hope Bioware makes Dragon age a trilogy and that's it, any further and you are milking the franchise.
The Witcher will be composed of three games.

Perhaps EA should know when their cash cow is all dried up, any further abuse just seems like greed and destroying a franchise of what was, ending it on a low note.

[Emzamination]

levyjl1988 wrote...

http://www.gamespot....-report-6404823

If Bioware follows suit I doubt there will be a future after Dragon Age 3. Dragon Age Origins was amazing, Dragon Age 2 was shat on by critics and gamers, now Dragon Age 3 will be among us.
I hope Bioware makes Dragon age a trilogy and that's it, any further and you are milking the franchise.
The Witcher will be composed of three games.

Perhaps EA should know when their cash cow is all dried up, any further abuse just seems like greed and destroying a franchise of what was, ending it on a low note.

It's the godfather 2 all over again <link>...  I never liked the dead space series anyway, so good riddance, I say.

Modifié par Emzamination, 05 mars 2013 - 04:04 .

[Marvin_Arnold]

This is the last straw. With micropayments, I draw the line.

I want to purchase a game, lock stock and smoking barrels, add some DLC if they are good, then immerse myself into it, and forget about reality for a few hours.

I don't want to get a popup every few minutes "if you want to use this feature, please allow payment of...". My character doesn't own a credit card.

If micropayment is in Daiii:i, then it's curtains for Dragon Age. I won't buy it. Period.

Pity.

Modifié par Marvin_Arnold, 05 mars 2013 - 04:12 .

[TUHD]

DS3 is getting torn apart by serious gaming journalists for the fact it feels unbalanced due to the microtransactions. Just like it is getting torn apart because the 'optional' coop is ruining the pure single-player experience.

[Everwarden]

Apparently Dead Space 3 is selling so badly that EA decided to kill the series. A pity. I wonder how large a part micro-transactions played in DS3 flopping.

[LinksOcarina]

To the Dead Space rumors, I say to you its false. 

Very false. 

And considering Gamasutra is the website with the most integrity regarding their news stories and editorials outside of Penny Arcade, not to mention former employees saying things id say that they are right. 

But then again I called it as BS...but hey...

Modifié par LinksOcarina, 05 mars 2013 - 06:52 .

[Travie]

Thinking about being forced to spend money in that way (press x now to reload 1.50$) makes me sick to my stomach.

I'll never use them, but since EA's CEO thinks it's a good idea, I doubt we will stop it.

[AlanC9]

Marvin_Arnold wrote...

This is the last straw. With micropayments, I draw the line.

I want to purchase a game, lock stock and smoking barrels, add some DLC if they are good, then immerse myself into it, and forget about reality for a few hours.

I don't want to get a popup every few minutes "if you want to use this feature, please allow payment of...". My character doesn't own a credit card.

If micropayment is in Daiii:i, then it's curtains for Dragon Age. I won't buy it. Period.

Pity.

What if it has MTs but no pop-ups?

[AshedMan]

AlanC9 wrote...
What if it has MTs but no pop-ups?

Then they better make it free-to-play.  Shoehorning free-to-play microtransaction systems into AAA priced games is obscene.  

[sirus1988]

I hope they don't add microtransactions in DA3. I would much prefer DLC goodies (aka Feastday Packs or Gear Packs in the future). Something that is offered outside of the game is fine, I just do not want to go to a merchant and see real dollar signs on items they sell.

And as for MP (if they have it in DA3), the ME3 MP packs work just as long as there is a way to spend in game credits for the packs and not just money.

[Naughty Bear]

sirus1988 wrote...

I hope they don't add microtransactions in DA3. I would much prefer DLC goodies (aka Feastday Packs or Gear Packs in the future). Something that is offered outside of the game is fine, I just do not want to go to a merchant and see real dollar signs on items they sell.

And as for MP (if they have it in DA3), the ME3 MP packs work just as long as there is a way to spend in game credits for the packs and not just money.

They're going to be.

Modifié par Naughty Bear, 06 mars 2013 - 12:52 .

[sirus1988]

^preaty much was wishing upon a star that burnt out ages ago.. Well regardless, I won't be using real money for them.

[azarhal]

For people who only took the quote out of context and didn't bother researching the real source. Directly form the same dude who apparently said "Microtransaction in all EA games", here's the truth:

"I made a statement in the conference along the lines of 'We'll have
micro-transactions in our games' and the community read that to mean all
our games, and that's really not true," he said. "All of our mobile
games will have micro-transactions in them, because almost all of them
are going to a world where they are play for free."

If people had bothered checking the context of the presentation where it was said, it was apparent that it was about F2P games and a new backend to support transaction (which is what I understood after researching a bit).

[AshedMan]

azarhal wrote...If people had bothered checking the context of the presentation where it was said, it was apparent that it was about F2P games and a new backend to support transaction (which is what I understood after researching a bit).

And if you had bothered to consider the last couple of EA games (Dead Space 3, SimCity, etc.) having microtransactions then you can quite easily see how EA plans to put them into their games, regardless of this latest statement.  

[AlanC9]

AshedMan wrote...

AlanC9 wrote...
What if it has MTs but no pop-ups?

Then they better make it free-to-play.  Shoehorning free-to-play microtransaction systems into AAA priced games is obscene.  

Why care, though?  Don't like MTs? Don't buy stuff. How is not buying stuff a problem? It's not like Bio games have ever been difficult enough to need more weapons.

Modifié par AlanC9, 06 mars 2013 - 11:00 .

[azarhal]

AshedMan wrote...

azarhal wrote...If people had bothered checking the context of the presentation where it was said, it was apparent that it was about F2P games and a new backend to support transaction (which is what I understood after researching a bit).

And if you had bothered to consider the last couple of EA games (Dead Space 3, SimCity, etc.) having microtransactions then you can quite easily see how EA plans to put them into their games, regardless of this latest statement.  

Ever played the SIMs? SimCity is just following that series and some people don't think that "addons packs/DLCs" are microtransactions as well. As for Dead Space 3, you don't have to pay for materials if you bother playing the game (I really have no idea why they trialed that in that game, it was sure to backlash in their face one way or the other).

[addiction21]

AlanC9 wrote...

AshedMan wrote...

AlanC9 wrote...
What if it has MTs but no pop-ups?

Then they better make it free-to-play.  Shoehorning free-to-play microtransaction systems into AAA priced games is obscene.  

Why care, though?  Don't like MTs? Don't buy stuff. How is not buying stuff a problem? It's not like Bio games have ever been difficult enough to need more weapons.

The mere existence seems to be the problem.

Let me use the latest horrible thing from EA. Dead Space 3. My first playthru I ended the game with several fully upgraded weapons, fully upgraded rig, and all that plus the materials carry over to the newgame+. I never wanted for anything, it never held me back in anyway, and their are more then enough extra parts and items laying around.

I could go on about how ****ty I felt the game is and how far it has moved away from the original Dead Space it has gone but those microtransactions  would not be one of them.  Then there was the "exploit" to gather infinite resources which people cheered until EA said http://www.geek.com/...a-bug-20130211/ which was immediately shouted down.

This has nothing to do with how its implemented the majority of the noise comes from those that don't want it to exist in any form ever.

[Medhia Nox]

@addiction21: Well - like my racist grand pappy - those who don't want it to exist should consider getting out of the way of the inevitable.

What's officially the difference between a microtransaction and DLC. Doesn't Dragon Age already have microtransactions with things like item packs?

Modifié par Medhia Nox, 07 mars 2013 - 02:42 .

[K_Tabris]

I'm assuming "microtransactions" refer to the selling of gear and whatnot for multiplayer? If so, then that is crap. If EA kills the chance to buy games second hand and forces us to buy an unfinished game for the sake of dlc, well, it doesn't look good for my gaming future.

[addiction21]

Medhia Nox wrote...

@addiction21: Well - like my racist grand pappy - those who don't want it to exist should consider getting out of the way of the inevitable.

What's officially the difference between a microtransaction and DLC. Doesn't Dragon Age already have microtransactions with things like item packs?

Seems like a blurry line to me and generally depends on what the developer/publisher calls them. Along with what the community declares them to be.

To me a DLC adds something brand new. It is Downloadable content.  Where a microtransaction is paying for quicker or easier access to something already attainable in game.

It starts to get blurry with the item and appearance packs.

My rambling is more about damning something because it deserves it. All the hoopla that's been going on with DS3 is not worth it. That game could of launched with out the MT's and it would play exactly the same and still have all the same problems. Many of the same things that carried over from Dead Space 2.

[AshedMan]

Medhia Nox wrote...

What's officially the difference between a microtransaction and DLC. Doesn't Dragon Age already have microtransactions with things like item packs?

Expansion : DLC    ::    DLC : Microtransations

[ashesandwine]

The thing about micro-transactions in single player games is that the game developers may make games around that business model. They then purposely make in-game resources hard to obtain, to entice players to pay to skip the grind. That is alright in multiplayer games but should not be anywhere near single player games.