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[taggywag]

solidprice wrote...
imo,
he is bottom teir w/ the Salarian engineer and vorcha engineer

hummm seeing a trend here

woahwoahwoahwoah the salarian engineer is EXCELLENT

[lastofthefive0s]

Most. Disappointing. Kit. Ever.

[Googleness]

the whole focus of this class is omni-bow which is sucks. if I only want to place mines for 2000 aoe damage I can use better kits.

[J-Reyno]

I was really looking forward to doing some omni-sniping. But the way his bow is setup....

[Roninraver]

taggywag wrote...

Pugz82 wrote...

Shinnyshin wrote...

You answered your own question. In order to play this class effectively, the bow class whose unique mechanic is a bow that you play for his bow, you spec out of his bow and spam landmines.

I do what works.

I like dealing damage...I like getting kill streaks on platinum using 3 simple mines.  I like winning.  I answered my own question by proving he is playable and can deal a ton of damage. 

i think most people would agree he looks cool, he can shoot as well as the rest of them and his mines are pretty cool, but 3 out of his 5 skills revolve mostly around the bow mechanic which no one seems able to get much use out of. it raises the question, what's up with the bow? yes, he's still usable without it and i've topped one or two score boards with him today but for gods sake will someone tell me what is up with that bow

I get plenty of use out of the Concussive Arrows.  Shoot a Phantom with a heavy melee shot, ragdoll her off the map (or until she engages her stiletto-thrusters.)  And she's the only enemy that offers any resistance at all against my bow, with her ninja-flips and hand of denial bubble.  Everyone else is screwed.

Hunter in your face?  Nope.  He's gone.  Dunno where to, but it ain't here.

Dragoon running you down?  Stop him in his tracks.  Same with Pyros.

Anything that walks on two legs may as well install springs in their boots, save me the trouble.  Because I will knock them off the map given half a chance.

I can stagger an Atlas, Banshee, Prime, Brute, ANYTHING at the drop of a hat.  In less than a second of wind-up time.
Or I can spread the love with a light melee, knock whole groups of mooks on their asses.


Focus on your gun, with your bow as your stagger tool (think Ballistic Blades, not Phase Disruptor) instead of trying to kill with it, and you're golden.

Oh, and BLOW UP ALL THE THINGS with Cain Mines!

[solidprice]

taggywag wrote...

solidprice wrote...
imo,
he is bottom teir w/ the Salarian engineer and vorcha engineer

hummm seeing a trend here

woahwoahwoahwoah the salarian engineer is EXCELLENT

...ok you have me there, SE is better then talon.

[lastofthefive0s]

solidprice wrote...

...ok you have me there, SE is better then talon.

Almost anything is better than the Talon, as he is right now.

[VII Revenant]

His omni-bow omni-blows . He's also glitched for me, making it impossible to max four abilities/passives. Grenade regen doesn't seem to work for me, and the main focus of his powers either bugs out or is too weak to kill mooks.

[Heroinman]

he seemed like he was rushed without proper testing, so much glitchiness (at least on PC) I mean he resets all my custom controls to defaults if I try to use him (I'm not alone on this, weird ass glitch.)

Just seems unfinished and rush out the door.

[TeamLexana]

I remember everyone hated the Paladin and its since become regarded as one of the best kits in the game. For now though, the like 5 or 6 games I've played with him, Ive got to say that I am not a fan. More time with it and tweaking the build is sure to change my opinion though.

[Tallgeese_VII]

TeamLexana wrote...

I remember everyone hated the Paladin and its since become regarded as one of the best kits in the game. For now though, the like 5 or 6 games I've played with him, Ive got to say that I am not a fan. More time with it and tweaking the build is sure to change my opinion though.

He should get a grenade every 10 seconds. Problem solved.

[Kaelis_33]

I can see the mines + wraith would be all you need to top the score charts.

[Mr Awesome 0ne]

I took him into Gold and owned with him.

You do have to spec grenades and focus more on the Trip mines. I had 17 Grenade Capacity.

I ran him with:

- Talon
- Hurricane

- Armor piercing Ammo IV
- Grenade Capacity V
- Cyclonic Modulator - IV
- Pistol Ramp Amp III

Modifié par Mr Awesome 0ne, 27 février 2013 - 04:55 .

[NYG1991]

I really want to like this character but I just can't find any use for the bow other than boss debuff. I Definitely can't kill effectively using the bow on gold even with full melee gear. Itdbe cool to burn thru my strength mods

[Crizex]

I did decent using his bow on gold by charging an Acolyte shot before using a melee and releasing it with the shot. It wasn't amazing but his bow becomes a lot more usable with that.

[Mabari Owns High Dragon The 2nd]

I had trouble killing things on Bronze...... BRONZE!

That being said, the mines are great, and the stagger from his bow is also great. The powers are meh and the actual damage from the bow is laughable. All in all, hes bad.

[Lukeman1884]

TeamLexana wrote...

I remember everyone hated the Paladin and its since become regarded as one of the best kits in the game. For now though, the like 5 or 6 games I've played with him, Ive got to say that I am not a fan. More time with it and tweaking the build is sure to change my opinion though.

That was before they fixed his SF tech combo.
And yeah, I don't like Talon because he's boring as hell to play. Camping a corridoor and shooting mines down it is not my definition of fun. He's like a GI without cloak.

[TeamLexana]

The best arrow build I've tried so far was the armor peircing one where the target takes more weapon damage with the executioner pistol was pretty nice but being so squishy, I'd tend to get chased off of my target 90% of the time after landing the arrow or risk getting knocked down. If that helps anyone at all? I don't know, lol. Like I said I haven't broken it down to how I like it yet.

That's addition to the tripwires of course!

Lukeman1884 wrote...

TeamLexana wrote...

I remember everyone hated the Paladin and its since become regarded as one of the best kits in the game. For now though, the like 5 or 6 games I've played with him, Ive got to say that I am not a fan. More time with it and tweaking the build is sure to change my opinion though.

That was before they fixed his SF tech combo.
And yeah, I don't like Talon because he's boring as hell to play. Camping a corridoor and shooting mines down it is not my definition of fun. He's like a GI without cloak.

Oh that's right, the combos weren't as easy to get when the Paladin first came out, thats my bad.

[Counter_Mixture]

L.ast L.ife wrote...

3XT3RM1N4TUS wrote...

Because having one good power and 2 awful ones is not right.

[Innocent Bystander]

- His omnibow sucks, works in mysterious ways and doesn't do damage. Even on bronze with full melee pasives, Juggernaut Shield and melee weapon mod even basic mooks survive one heavy melee most times.
- He resets keybinds to default, which makes his omnibow even more useless - try strafing right (D) while holding melee (F). Can be worked around by redefing keybinds at start of every map, but it's annoying.
- As only kit that have all skills using grenade charges he would make great use of Thermal Clips, but as only kit he can't use them.

[squidney2k1]

I like him, but he's buggy as hell. And no cover grab is irritating.

I do think that the base damage for an uncharged bow (spread) shot could use a mild buff.

[Seerezaro]

I'm not entirely sure what you guys are doing differently than me, but the bow will oneshot a mook in silver w/o powers, two shot centurian level mooks. I can't remember what he did damage wise in gold but I had melee str gear on gold so it was still one/two shotting em. He has major problems against bosses though.

Still he could use help.

[CrissRiot]

Shinnyshin wrote...

You answered your own question. In order to play this class effectively, the bow class whose unique mechanic is a bow that you play for his bow, you spec out of his bow and spam landmines.

This.

[mgc1971]

Because it's bugged.As simple as this

[Dr. Tim Whatley]

I'm going to wait to reserve final judgement on him. Hopefully, someone will figure out a decent bow build. Mines alone won't cut it.