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[Kuro_Fenikkusu]

 So while watching the live stream yesterday I saw the Talon merc in action and one of the devs said something to the effect that with the omni bow you'll hardly ever need to fire your weapon.  I'm so glad I strapped a talon on my talon merc otherwise I'd have been screwed.  My weapon was the only thing that could kill anything.

The aiming is fine I didn't have any trouble hitting what I wanted to hit, except maybe with the light melee, wtf was that?  The only good thing about this kit right now is the Cain mines.  They're awesome.  I'm tempted to play this kit as a sniper and just booby trap the entire map arrows be damned.'

My first game with the talon merc was U/U/S like all the other kits I've been testing today.  I got FBD and Collectors.
Imagine my horror when I engaged the heavy melee against an approaching abomination only to find that I had only managed to take down 60% of its health.  On Silver.

My Spec is this

0/6/6/6/6

Aside from one rank in durabilty the rest is specced for melee damage.

Gear:
Pistol Melee Stunner V
Juggernaut Shield V
Strength Enhancer 1

Why on earth did it take two heavy melees to kill an abomination?

The only time I managed to really kill anything with the omnibow was when I loaded it with armor piercing arrows.  Those did mediocre damage to regular units and somewhat registered on scions.

There's no way this kit is playable on Gold+ unless you forgo using the omnibow for any real applications.  Anyone else find this kit lacking in firepower?

TL;DR version:
Omni-Bow needs a buff.  Badly.

[mybudgee]

Spec out of omni-bow? Gotcha

[Wolf610]

I took him into Collectors/Plat, his bow tickled the heck out of those abominations. Needs a buff, or 2, maybe 3.

Edit: Not kidding, thing looked like and acupuncture test doll before I finally just shot him in the head.

Modifié par Wolf610, 27 février 2013 - 04:43 .

[Kuro_Fenikkusu]

mybudgee wrote...

Spec out of omni-bow? Gotcha

That's not exactly possible now is it?  The kit is centered around the omni-bow and you couldn't kill a dartboard with it.

[Kuro_Fenikkusu]

Wolf610 wrote...

I took him into Collectors/Plat, his bow tickled the heck out of those abominations. Needs a buff, or 2, maybe 3.

You're brave.

[stromguard555]

Kuro_Fenikkusu wrote...

mybudgee wrote...

Spec out of omni-bow? Gotcha

That's not exactly possible now is it?  The kit is centered around the omni-bow and you couldn't kill a dartboard with it.

Don't put any points in the two arrow abilities, and use the enforecer guantlets gear. Successfully specced out of omni-bow.

[tarsiak]

Yes, compared to melee powerhouses like the krogan or batarians, the talon merc is in the volus cupid damage league.

Modifié par tarsiak, 27 février 2013 - 04:44 .

[Shinnyshin]

tarsiak wrote...

Yes, compared to melee powerhouses like the krogan or batarians, the talon merc is in the volus cupid damage league.

Only he spends grenades + charge cast time + full points in at least attack amplifier skill in order to underachieve compared to people who don't have to spend anything.

stromguard555 wrote...

Don't put any points in the two arrow abilities, and use the enforecer guantlets gear. Successfully specced out of omni-bow.

Inb4 Concussive Shot and Armor-Piercing Shot still work with Batarian melee.

Modifié par Shinnyshin, 27 février 2013 - 04:49 .

[Wolf610]

stromguard555 wrote...

Kuro_Fenikkusu wrote...

mybudgee wrote...

Spec out of omni-bow? Gotcha

That's not exactly possible now is it?  The kit is centered around the omni-bow and you couldn't kill a dartboard with it.

Don't put any points in the two arrow abilities, and use the enforecer guantlets gear. Successfully specced out of omni-bow.

I'm thinking 6/6/0/6/6 build, centered around trip mines, going extra cap on concussive arrows with electric evo for crowd control, and going for power damage and fitness. Spam mines everywhere seems like he may work out. Maybe...

[majinstrings]

The omnibow is completely useless...maxed out omnibow damage and it still took 2 full-aimed shots to take down Cannibals on Bronze! I thought with maxed damage it would be about as powerful as Ballistic Blades, at least...Sometimes it doesn't even fire...

I hate this thing...

The Cain Mines are good except every so often they seem to go through a wall and just disappear...

[Wolf610]

Kuro_Fenikkusu wrote...

Wolf610 wrote...

I took him into Collectors/Plat, his bow tickled the heck out of those abominations. Needs a buff, or 2, maybe 3.

You're brave.

Yes... brave... that's the word.

My lobby was screwing around when we did it, took bets to see when we'd wipe and took no gear in. Wave 1 wipe. Highest level character was my Talon, level 16, we didn't have a chance.

[Kuro_Fenikkusu]

majinstrings wrote...

The omnibow is completely useless...maxed out omnibow damage and it still took 2 full-aimed shots to take down Cannibals on Bronze! I thought with maxed damage it would be about as powerful as Ballistic Blades, at least...Sometimes it doesn't even fire...

I hate this thing...

The Cain Mines are good except every so often they seem to go through a wall and just disappear...

I experienced that with one mine.  I think that might have to do with the maps maybe.

[L.ast L.ife]

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Best. Title. Ever.

[lazysundae]

majinstrings wrote...

The Cain Mines are good except every so often they seem to go through a wall and just disappear...

I'm suddenly realizing how many maps have slanted walls and little nooks that make your mine face a funny way.

[Kuro_Fenikkusu]

lazysundae wrote...

majinstrings wrote...

The Cain Mines are good except every so often they seem to go through a wall and just disappear...

I'm suddenly realizing how many maps have slanted walls and little nooks that make your mine face a funny way.

Yep.  I had to be so careful on dagger because of this.

[CrissRiot]

Let's face it, the Talon Merc is embarassingly bad.

The opposite of the pistol in everyway.

[Kuro_Fenikkusu]

CrissRiot wrote...

Let's face it, the Talon Merc is embarassingly bad.

The opposite of the pistol in everyway.

Sad thing is i equipped him with the pistol expecting all types of awesome.

[ItFactorScott]

I'll say what I said in another thread, With AP arrows fully specced for damage they take one bar of armour from a Bronze Atlas at mid range. One! On Bronze!!! add the Freezing bow fire and the fact enemies can dodge them and the 30 seconds to replenish 1 grenade/arrow/mine/whatever to that and you get an awful kit
it's shockingly bad and I wont be using it again until it gets buffs, buffs and more buffs! How anyone can use it on Gold and Platinum is beyond me.
they must be genius or a masochist

[Lukeman1884]

They need to increase the activation range of his mines. I've had way too many dragoons and phantoms walk JUST to the side of them.

[Counter_Mixture]

tarsiak wrote...

Yes, compared to melee powerhouses like the krogan or batarians, the talon merc is in the volus cupid damage league.

[Dee V3]

A friend of mine said the Talon Merc was the equivalent of taking a ****. I told him, ''No, taking a **** is useful''.

[DrAbysmal]

Poor Zaeed, his character model deserved better. I can't believe how bad and buggy it is. Not only is his signature ability useless on every difficulty, while speccing the character I kept having a strange noise pop up and he doesn't even get the full amount of points at max level. Apparently he resets your controls to the default settings too. What the hell happened?

[Agros6473]

In the video they did use level III strength and Level IV power consumables, soooo........

[PinkiePipes]

Hey at least you can play him , some of us are STILL waiting for the DLC ._.

[LeandroBraz]

On the devs gameplay it don't look so bad. I wonder if they was playing the exactly same version that we got.


Anyway, I didn't saw not even a single soul defending it, I think they will definitely buff it after all this negative feedback.