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[llandwynwyn]

PS is buggy even on host, which is a shame bc I really liked it. Tried many thing and settled on 3/5/6/6/6 for now. As long as isn't a stupid build, she works fine with whatever you do. I think she is really easy to use on host, off is that's a nightmare.

[MP-Ryan]

...aaaaand, I'm now 6/6/6/4/4 with a Talon. It's not bad. The biggest problem is the enemies targeting you through dodge.

I don't know, I like the mobility but I'm finding that in order to get responsiveness and mobility, I have to play her on host (and even then Poison Strike can be painful). Meanwhile, I still go through Ops and Medigel like crazy. And if I have to play her on-host in order to actually use her to full potential, I might as well play Novaguard and be a nigh-invincible biotic missile.

I'm now out of respec cards and my usual spectre packs (which usually spit them out obligingly) aren't replensihing them, so I'll be playing 66644 for a while and see how it goes. In general, though, Poison Strike needs some fixing. She's just too fragile with it in its currently buggy state.

[Ace-Malo]

Hey does anyone know if Biotic Focus stacks? I swear it feels like the speed one does sometimes. Do the melee bonuses stack? What gives?

[Grotaiche]

Severyx wrote...

Grotaiche wrote...
Also, I have a question : the Venom Gauntlets description states that 30% of the melee damage is applied as Poison Damage. What does it mean ? Is there some DoT ? This is something I haven't checked last night and I was wondering what it meant.

Think of it this way: The Cabal has the highest melee damage of all the classes, but only 70% of that damage is instant (when you slash at them). The remaining 30% of that damage is applied over the DoT of the poison the melee stuffs on the enemy.

Always remember: Poison stacks. Use that to your advantage.

I know, it's just that if there's DoT, then for what duration ?

[joker_jack]

If you go with poison strike, you will NEED to host. She encounters the same issue every vanguard off host does. She's fun, but not something I'll not be using alot off since I don't host often.

Modifié par joker_jack, 02 mars 2013 - 02:53 .

[X-Frame]

I haven't read the whole thread yet, so apologies if this has been answered, but does Explosive Blades end the Poison Duration or does it keep going after they explode?

[AzureSky899]

joker_jack wrote...

If you go with poison strike, you will NEED to host. She encounters the same issue every vanguard off host does. She's fun, but not something I'll not be using alot off since I don't host often.

You mean the thing where PS sometimes doesn't work? That's gotten me killed so many times

[millahnna]

X-Frame wrote...

I haven't read the whole thread yet, so apologies if this has been answered, but does Explosive Blades end the Poison Duration or does it keep going after they explode?

That's what I've been trying to figure out as well.  If I get a respec card ever I'll test it myself but I've been hoping someone would beat me to it.

[Grotaiche]

Interesting thread with interesting points

Modifié par Grotaiche, 02 mars 2013 - 05:48 .

[Ace-Malo]

Hey great work here in this thread. I've started thinking of her as a one person plague on her enemies. She is the Turian Gunwitch.

Anyone want to help me out in my thread here?

[Howie225]

does someone know or can confirm that cabal's base heavy melee damage is 1k like the batarian? and if this is true is this 1000 immediate damage plus poison damage or combines with dot of poison?

edit nvm: found it after digging a bit more in forums base damage is like 700, 70% upfront and 30% dot

Modifié par Howie225, 03 mars 2013 - 10:55 .

[etm125]

Howie225 wrote...

does someone know or can confirm that cabal's base heavy melee damage is 1k like the batarian? and if this is true is this 1000 immediate damage plus poison damage or combines with dot of poison?

doubt it. If you spec 6 fitness, full melee plus juggernaut gear plus a shotgun with omni blade you can 1 shot a gold trooper. If you leave out any of those pieces you cannot. 

[Sheikah86]

 I just did a platinum game on her, with an effing melee build.. After initially being underwhelmed by her melee capabilities I started playing around with some numbers. She hurts more than a shadow coming out of cloak, under optimal conditions (unless my numbers are off). 

I only got synced once, due to my own stupidity. Got careless and missed a Phantom lurking around a corner. Got 150k at the end with gold medals in kills, assists and melee kills, along with a silver revival medal, so not too bad at all. I use a wraith with an omni blade, shredder and elemental ammo of your choice..

And, obviously, I bring all the melee enhancement I can carry into a game. Spec is 6/4/6/4/6 with double dash on PS for mad detonation kills, and the shield regen on BF. NB is used for "Oshi" moments only.. or the occasional grudge/rage-kill.

Best tip is to tip I can give, is to hang around with Crows Control folks, like stasis fans and geth Juggies.. in fact, if you run with a melee geth Juggy, stick to him like glue. He is your sync kill deterrent and your ticket to a sick string of melee kills.

If you are interested, this build is in my manifest, and I intend to keep it there for sure.

[UnknownMercenary]

Not really feeling this character. The Havoc feels more like a Vanguard than the Cabal does, my main beef being a lack of a stagger power (Blades are ok, but not as good as Charge) and survivability ain't too great without constant Biotic Focus spam.

IMO BF should give 50% of base barrier regen on its own, and 6a should give 100% base. Right now 40% of base (300 barriers) is pointless when the invulnerability is basically non existent.

e: swapped out my Piranha for a Wraith/Acolyte combo and it went better. Gonna try a few more games with that because I'm not giving up on her yet unlike the Talon

Modifié par UnknownMercenary, 05 mars 2013 - 04:00 .

[kelly ripas bicep]

i speccd out of poison strike -= it would add mobility i suppose, but why not use a mobility option that doesn't have a cooldown? I hate turning my back on the enemy, and the game seems to punish that behavior with more aggro/damage to the back from enemies. Nice thing about Poison strike was jumping through an Atlas and shooting its vents (when distracted by higher DPS allies)

She is a great gun class and I speccd her 'out' of melee too. melee is awesome, but on platinum it simply isn't viable.

[MP-Ryan]

UnknownMercenary wrote...

Not really feeling this character. The Havoc feels more like a Vanguard than the Cabal does, my main beef being a lack of a stagger power (Blades are ok, but not as good as Charge) and survivability ain't too great without constant Biotic Focus spam.

IMO BF should give 50% of base barrier regen on its own, and 6a should give 100% base. Right now 40% of base (300 barriers) is pointless when the invulnerability is basically non existent.

e: swapped out my Piranha for a Wraith/Acolyte combo and it went better. Gonna try a few more games with that because I'm not giving up on her yet unlike the Talon

Indeed.

I'm 44666 now with a Hurricane only, and it performs pretty well.  My Hurricane+Acolyte gives the same CD as a Piranha, and I've found the Piranha better overall.

All three of her powers need adjusting to put her on par with the other Vanguards.

[JKrapek]

MP-Ryan wrote...

...aaaaand, I'm now 6/6/6/4/4 with a Talon. It's not bad. The biggest problem is the enemies targeting you through dodge.

I don't know, I like the mobility but I'm finding that in order to get responsiveness and mobility, I have to play her on host (and even then Poison Strike can be painful). Meanwhile, I still go through Ops and Medigel like crazy. And if I have to play her on-host in order to actually use her to full potential, I might as well play Novaguard and be a nigh-invincible biotic missile.

I'm now out of respec cards and my usual spectre packs (which usually spit them out obligingly) aren't replensihing them, so I'll be playing 66644 for a while and see how it goes. In general, though, Poison Strike needs some fixing. She's just too fragile with it in its currently buggy state.

Are you using double strike?  It really lets you make up for mistakes (if you're playing a small enough map and don't get left in the open).  Also, with a Piranha X (smart choke and piercing) I'm at ~180% and can hit BF all day long.  Really helps me to make up for my mistakes, and the Piranha throws out so much flak that it staggers them until you decide on your next PS target.