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The new DLC is tremendously awesome, new characters with new powers, new weapons, new cool gear, new cool mods, it's a really good product on my opinion.

But as you know, with everything there is an exception.

In this case we have 2.

The edi infiltrator.

The Idea of a Shotgun infiltrator was always good thing for me, I thought ( and still think ) it was a wonderful idea that I liked to see in-game.

Thankfully that day has came.

The EDIbot as we call it is not a bad character, in fact it is too good, TOO good and is not because of tactical cloak's shotgun evolution, no, that's fine, the issue here Repair Matrix.

Repair Matrix gives you damage reduction, speedbonus, FREE revives ( specially this because it gives you back shield gate and make the fitness evolution pointless ) etc etc etc.

Now first of all, I am not the kind of player who complain about if something is OP, if something needs to be nerfed, buffed etc etc, no.

I am writting this because I want to make a very constructive critic, just to improve our experience in game, after all, we are a community united for this game, and I want the game to be properly balanced.

I think Repair Matrix should be changed for the good of the game and this community, i really love what you have done BioWare, you did an amazing job with this DLC and I, as a fan, am very happy to have this new DLC, new powers, weapons etc to give us more variety, and yes, you have done great.

But from my very very humble opinion I think Repair Matrix is breaking the balance we had in the game before Reckoning, and it breaks balance even on the character, because Repair Matrix makes us have 46 medigel just right there if spec'd correctly ( granade capacity and blablabla + 5 op packs = 40 + 6 medigel = 46 ) and that is just without ammo boxes.


The auto revive ability is not a bad idea, what it wasn't correct was maybe give it damage reduction, speedbonus, treat it as a granade ( no need of cooldown ) etc etc, and from my humble opinion, it should be changed, as I said above, it makes the fitness tree totally pointless since you don't have to worry about anything, you will be back to life with damage reduction and with huge speed.

the solution with this character is not taking actions against Cloak or weapons, is just tweaking a little bit Repair Matrix.

With this character cheaters don't have to use hacks to cheat because now we have a legal trainer in the game and I don't mean to fault you the respect BioWare, no, of course not, you don't deserve that, but I am just making a point.

Seriously, the risk-reward relation is erased with this character, could you please take a look at it BioWare?


Any thought BSN?

Modifié par RedJohn, 27 février 2013 - 07:23 .


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doozerdude

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tl;dr?

Anyways, my thoughts=TGI with ******

Modifié par doozerdude, 27 février 2013 - 06:02 .


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doozerdude wrote...

tl;dr?


Now I know the reason of all your posts, you never read the OP.

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Miaoven Winter

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Well argued, RJ. I liked the AIU a lot only after one match, but I'm more than willing to accept a revamp on Repair Matrix. It'll still be a solid class.

Modifié par Miaoven Winter, 27 février 2013 - 06:03 .


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RedJohn wrote...

doozerdude wrote...

tl;dr?


Now I know the reason of all your posts, you never read the OP.



No, just glance. If it looks interesting I read it; however if it looks longwinded and could simply be replaced with "this kit is OP cuz A and B, pls nerf", then I don't botther=]

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It's the most broken thing they could have ever designed.

Super OP version of Tac Cloak
Broken ass Snap Freeze
Self Revive
Speed
Great Melee

Who knows what they were thinking. Maybe they wanted to REALLY give the Ghost and GI a run for their money.

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uh...correct me if i'm wrong, but i thought the "self revive" only occur once? why do i get an impression from other members that they get more than one self-revive?

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Even the self reviving wouldn't be THAT bad if the ability didn't also auto regen shields (even in cloak), grant speed bonuses and I think DR as well. It's like the greatest self buff in the game.

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doozerdude wrote...

RedJohn wrote...

doozerdude wrote...

tl;dr?


Now I know the reason of all your posts, you never read the OP.



No, just glance. If it looks interesting I read it; however if it looks longwinded and could simply be replaced with "this kit is OP cuz A and B, pls nerf", then I don't botther=]



Sorry, but I can't post something like that, it would be stupid and it would make me look like a whinner with no point when in fact I have a point.

This is not a "nerf pls" thread, this is just a constructive critique suggesting a change to balance the things, nerf threads are always the same, people mad because they think something is too op or because their friends steal their kills.


This is different, i want dialogue. 

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Maverick DW wrote...

uh...correct me if i'm wrong, but i thought the "self revive" only occur once? why do i get an impression from other members that they get more than one self-revive?


Nope... it will revive you over and over again if you cast it everytime you're downed.

It also lets her regen shields while cloaked... no other infiltrator can do that.

Like I said... totally broken, beyond words. She's still fun though... great for carrying bad teams.

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The class is insane. I solod gold with no consumables in 35 minutes and I only used 2 gel and no rockets. And I am not a great player at all, I struggled to get my other solos with the Krogan Sentinel.

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Tactical Cloak is already OP.

We all knew a shotgun Tactical Cloak would be OP.

We also know that debuff + Tactical Cloak is bad.

Then, infiltrator with damage reduction ?

As fast as a drell ?

Who can regen shields ?

Who basically cannot die, ever ?

Who somehow has better melee damage than a freaking Krogan with a freaking big-ass hammer ?

She's not OP. She's not broken. She's an abomination.

I wonder what the hell Bioware was thinking on that one.

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I agree.

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megabeast37215 wrote...

Maverick DW wrote...

uh...correct me if i'm wrong, but i thought the "self revive" only occur once? why do i get an impression from other members that they get more than one self-revive?


Nope... it will revive you over and over again if you cast it everytime you're downed.

It also lets her regen shields while cloaked... no other infiltrator can do that.

Like I said... totally broken, beyond words. She's still fun though... great for carrying bad teams.


TGI says hi. And certain SI specs. SI is debatable though as you do need to give up sniper damage or points from other trees.

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Feneckus wrote...

Tactical Cloak is already OP.

We all knew a shotgun Tactical Cloak would be OP.

We also know that debuff + Tactical Cloak is bad.

Then, infiltrator with damage reduction ?

As fast as a drell ?

Who can regen shields ?

Who basically cannot die, ever ?

Who somehow has better melee damage than a freaking Krogan with a freaking big-ass hammer ?

She's not OP. She's not broken. She's an abomination.

I wonder what the hell Bioware was thinking on that one.


It makes the GI look balanced....

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I really just wish I could have been in that meeting where they decided a power with shield regen, 40% damage reduction, 20% speed bonus, and instant free revives would be balanced.

I'm really seriously scratching my head over this one. What WERE they thinking? I would really like to see some kind of rationale.

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Great kit. Makes useless players gold/plat viable

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megabeast37215 wrote...

Maverick DW wrote...

uh...correct me if i'm wrong, but i thought the "self revive" only occur once? why do i get an impression from other members that they get more than one self-revive?


Nope... it will revive you over and over again if you cast it everytime you're downed.

It also lets her regen shields while cloaked... no other infiltrator can do that.

Like I said... totally broken, beyond words. She's still fun though... great for carrying bad teams.


i'm on console (xbox) and i'm quite sure i did not get multiple revive even if i cast the matrix before i died. granted, i only played this kit twice so maybe i'm missing something. but if multiple revive is true, then yes, op, it is overpower no doubt. 

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Maverick DW wrote...

megabeast37215 wrote...

Maverick DW wrote...

uh...correct me if i'm wrong, but i thought the "self revive" only occur once? why do i get an impression from other members that they get more than one self-revive?


Nope... it will revive you over and over again if you cast it everytime you're downed.

It also lets her regen shields while cloaked... no other infiltrator can do that.

Like I said... totally broken, beyond words. She's still fun though... great for carrying bad teams.


i'm on console (xbox) and i'm quite sure i did not get multiple revive even if i cast the matrix before i died. granted, i only played this kit twice so maybe i'm missing something. but if multiple revive is true, then yes, op, it is overpower no doubt. 


One revive per cast, which is one per grenade.

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Biower wanted to make feneckus mad.

Something is gonna get nerfed but I don't care.

Modifié par Kalas321, 27 février 2013 - 06:18 .


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RaptorSolutions wrote...

TGI says hi. And certain SI specs. SI is debatable though as you do need to give up sniper damage or points from other trees.


Ohh yeah... that's right. I don't play that guy very often... too easy, even on Plat.

It's weird running around cloaked and watching my shields go up... Sexbot with a Raider was out of control.... Sexbot with a Reegar was just to see how badly I could break the game.

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New DLC - check
Unreleased for PS3 Europe yet - check
Calls for nerf - check
BSN operating as normal - check

While I get the OP's point, it's disappointing the calls are out before some of us even have it yet...
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Stinja wrote...

New DLC - check
Unreleased for PS3 Europe yet - check
Calls for nerf - check
BSN operating as normal - check

While I get the OP's point, it's disappointing the calls are out before some of us even have it yet...


Better than the calls which are out when NO ONE even got the stuff yet.

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I sadly have to agree. Me being a terribad player used Warfighter V and Reegar. The amount of damage, CC, speed she puts out is massive. Even with constant 350 latency this kit is a beast where she is deployed.

Like RedJohn said, the key lies with the Matrix. It allowed very reckless playing where without it was a high risk high reward style. Now the risk is removed. I only died because of lag which landed me on a Phantom's blade (This shows how reckless one can be at Reegar range with 300 ms in front of a Phantom)

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@RaptorSolutions:  Touché good sir.

Modifié par Stinja, 27 février 2013 - 06:24 .