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[Passionario]

rlro wrote...

If you go to ammo boxes you'd have unlimited free medigels.

If you are playing in a magical alternate dimension where everyone gets infinite grenades, why not just use a Drell instead and carpet-bomb everything with Clusters?

[Ziegrif]

Passionario wrote...

rlro wrote...

If you go to ammo boxes you'd have unlimited free medigels.

If you are playing in a magical alternate dimension where everyone gets infinite grenades, why not just use a Drell instead and carpet-bomb everything with Clusters?

Or just solo ina  grenade filled map making repair matrix infinite.

[Ziegrif]

mistervirginia wrote...

Ziegrif wrote...

mistervirginia wrote...

2) a HUGE drawback of the Insta-Rev of Repair Matrix is you can get Sync-Killed far easier.  example - let's say a Phantom just downed you.  Repair Matrix kicks in, you're getting back up, then... BAM! stab.  with a medigel, you can wait for a Phantom to either be distracted or move away.

And here's how to counteract this drawback.

http://social.biowar.../index/15846322

It's the same as the drell. Just dodge 3 times to negate death stagger.

this very rarely works for me.  i tried dodge tactics before anyone ever suggested it to me and most of the time i get stunned (ex, downed, Gel rev, Phantom Melee stagger, then Sync-Kill stab) almost immediately before i can do anything.  i can't tell you how many times this has happened.  it's extremely frustrating.

with this being said, i'd actually be okay with them removing the Insta-Rev feature of Repair Matrix for this reason.  but, as someone else mentioned in another thread, this would likely take a patch instead of balance change and that's just not going to happen until more stuff can also be patched in.  instead, it'll prob get a balance change and Shield Restoration will likely take a hit.  that, imo, would be bad.

Actually I think the edibot dodges seem to have stagger resistances. I dunno but those Prime drones could not stagger a forward roll.
Also the only way the negation does not work is 1. extreme lag, 2. Your timing is off due to the lag. 3. You're stuck in a wall making it your fault.
Practice teh timing a bit more. The edibot can easily negate staggers due to her dodges being .... well perfect.

Edit: DOUBLE POST OF DOOOOOOOOOM!!!!!

Modifié par Ziegrif, 27 février 2013 - 02:15 .

[kr3g]

She is fine

[Charaxan]

All right.... I am sorry if it has been said, but as this thread has 10 pages, I was not able to read all.

The ting is : I don't know any new character (except maybe the collector and the cabal) who are not OP. Sexbot, Geth Prime and Hulk Krogan are simply three ways to play the game without any problem.

The thing is : I don't care anymore. I was for balance before. I still am. But this dlc is an End. A "bye bye". A gigantic party, a gift from the devs saying "we all just had A BIG FUN to code, conceptualize and play with you."

Basicly, those characters ARE cheating. This game will not endure, it will be finished soon... We have now the material for the Grand Finale, where rules doesn't aplies anymore.

I think the game is dead, now. We play a whole new game, for the fun and the kick, but no more for the build and the credits, and the weapons, etc. The game is dead.

So the question I ask is : do you prefer a quick end with a small statement from devs saying "Hi people, we are closing the servers tomorrow" or do you prefer a huge detonation before the end, the ONE that will be remembered ?

[mistervirginia]

Ziegrif wrote...

mistervirginia wrote...

Ziegrif wrote...

mistervirginia wrote...

2) a HUGE drawback of the Insta-Rev of Repair Matrix is you can get Sync-Killed far easier.  example - let's say a Phantom just downed you.  Repair Matrix kicks in, you're getting back up, then... BAM! stab.  with a medigel, you can wait for a Phantom to either be distracted or move away.

And here's how to counteract this drawback.

http://social.biowar.../index/15846322

It's the same as the drell. Just dodge 3 times to negate death stagger.

this very rarely works for me.  i tried dodge tactics before anyone ever suggested it to me and most of the time i get stunned (ex, downed, Gel rev, Phantom Melee stagger, then Sync-Kill stab) almost immediately before i can do anything.  i can't tell you how many times this has happened.  it's extremely frustrating.

with this being said, i'd actually be okay with them removing the Insta-Rev feature of Repair Matrix for this reason.  but, as someone else mentioned in another thread, this would likely take a patch instead of balance change and that's just not going to happen until more stuff can also be patched in.  instead, it'll prob get a balance change and Shield Restoration will likely take a hit.  that, imo, would be bad.

Actually I think the edibot dodges seem to have stagger resistances. I dunno but those Prime drones could not stagger a forward roll.
Also the only way the negation does not work is 1. extreme lag, 2. Your timing is off due to the lag. 3. You're stuck in a wall making it your fault.
Practice teh timing a bit more. The edibot can easily negate staggers due to her dodges being .... well perfect.

Edit: DOUBLE POST OF DOOOOOOOOOM!!!!!

yes, i do need to L2P 
i'm trying! i swear haha

[Kuato Livezz]

OP needs to realize that only a handful of players can solo Gold in 6 mins...lol. So yes, in your hands, its very powerful. I have used it and its a very strong kit. The matrix for shield regen is fine, but the revive is kinda over the top. Really don't mind it though....lol. Since I PUG most of the time, I honestly don't mind seeing a few EDI's since I am a sucker for reviving squadmates.

[m4sterch3f]

Charaxan wrote...

All right.... I am sorry if it has been said, but as this thread has 10 pages, I was not able to read all.

The ting is : I don't know any new character (except maybe the collector and the cabal) who are not OP. Sexbot, Geth Prime and Hulk Krogan are simply three ways to play the game without any problem.

The thing is : I don't care anymore. I was for balance before. I still am. But this dlc is an End. A "bye bye". A gigantic party, a gift from the devs saying "we all just had A BIG FUN to code, conceptualize and play with you."

Basicly, those characters ARE cheating. This game will not endure, it will be finished soon... We have now the material for the Grand Finale, where rules doesn't aplies anymore.

I think the game is dead, now. We play a whole new game, for the fun and the kick, but no more for the build and the credits, and the weapons, etc. The game is dead.

So the question I ask is : do you prefer a quick end with a small statement from devs saying "Hi people, we are closing the servers tomorrow" or do you prefer a huge detonation before the end, the ONE that will be remembered ?

the chief agrees with above said statement.....  they really are going out with  a big bang with all these new characters instead of a thud. Everything Big juicy J said is true but who cares if you think the character is overpowered dont use it.  ME3 multiplayer has lived its course trust me I have put more hours into it than any other game in a while and have enjoyed every min of it and every nerf and buff that has come to pass.... It's time to just live and let play!

[vonSlash]

If you spec out of cloak, the class doesn't feel OP'd at all.

[redBadger14]

Not an issue for me, especially since I'm usually low on gels because the RNG loves giving me clip packs XD

Repair Matrix allows me to replace gels in case I do need yo cut back on using them.

[Ziegrif]

mistervirginia wrote...

yes, i do need to L2P 
i'm trying! i swear haha

Same for meeeee!
Personally am gona use the hell out of the new Edibot for obvious reasons untill the nerf.
Gold solos for E-PEEN FARMING!!

[Rebel_Raven]

Charaxan wrote...

All right.... I am sorry if it has been said, but as this thread has 10 pages, I was not able to read all.

The ting is : I don't know any new character (except maybe the collector and the cabal) who are not OP. Sexbot, Geth Prime and Hulk Krogan are simply three ways to play the game without any problem.

The thing is : I don't care anymore. I was for balance before. I still am. But this dlc is an End. A "bye bye". A gigantic party, a gift from the devs saying "we all just had A BIG FUN to code, conceptualize and play with you."

Basicly, those characters ARE cheating. This game will not endure, it will be finished soon... We have now the material for the Grand Finale, where rules doesn't aplies anymore.

I think the game is dead, now. We play a whole new game, for the fun and the kick, but no more for the build and the credits, and the weapons, etc. The game is dead.

So the question I ask is : do you prefer a quick end with a small statement from devs saying "Hi people, we are closing the servers tomorrow" or do you prefer a huge detonation before the end, the ONE that will be remembered ?

More or less this.
'd rather MEMP end with a bang than a whimper.

[Cloaking_Thane]

Rebel_Raven wrote...

Charaxan wrote...

All right.... I am sorry if it has been said, but as this thread has 10 pages, I was not able to read all.

The ting is : I don't know any new character (except maybe the collector and the cabal) who are not OP. Sexbot, Geth Prime and Hulk Krogan are simply three ways to play the game without any problem.

The thing is : I don't care anymore. I was for balance before. I still am. But this dlc is an End. A "bye bye". A gigantic party, a gift from the devs saying "we all just had A BIG FUN to code, conceptualize and play with you."

Basicly, those characters ARE cheating. This game will not endure, it will be finished soon... We have now the material for the Grand Finale, where rules doesn't aplies anymore.

I think the game is dead, now. We play a whole new game, for the fun and the kick, but no more for the build and the credits, and the weapons, etc. The game is dead.

So the question I ask is : do you prefer a quick end with a small statement from devs saying "Hi people, we are closing the servers tomorrow" or do you prefer a huge detonation before the end, the ONE that will be remembered ?

More or less this.
'd rather MEMP end with a bang than a whimper.

I agree, lets have the last hoorah

[Kuato Livezz]

Also, there are still players that have recently started to play ME3 MP. With a boat load of rares and URs, its very difficult to acquire them. EA/Bioware aren't going to increase the credits so they create characters with a smaller learning curve to help the new players play on higher difficulties without embarrassing themselves.

Vet players feel slighted because of the hours they put in and feel that the higher difficulties belong to them.

[Daxamite]

Only played her briefly last night ( I got fed up after three wave 10 disconnects ) but even at level 12 with a disciple x she seemed very powerful , especially when I had geth scanner on. Find enemies , cloak, snap freeze and shoot all the things. Not sure that means she needs a ner f. Especially as already mentioned that this is the end of mp and so who cares anyway . Geth prime and krogan Thor are op too

Modifié par PhoenixUK, 27 février 2013 - 02:33 .

[bassetlab]

This is why we cannot have nice things. The small vocal minority complain complain complain. I don't get it guy's. Why do you care so much about this? My hope is they leave it as is. Seriously don't play with her or don't spec into the repair matrix. She is incredibly fun to play with why ruin it! Lets be honest here, they knew what they were giving us. Balance changes are twice a month now and this game is 1 year old. Support and resources are being pulled into other projects and I like to think of this as a parting gift. Please stop with the need cries. If you think she is OP use the katana with her and don't use snap freeze. Challenge solved.

[TeamLexana]

I like her and all the other kits as they are, don't touch a god damn thing. Only exception would be to maybe BUFF the Talon's Omni Bow.

It is the last MP DLC after, it's time we had nice things.

[Immortal Strife]

Yes she is OP, but do I care, no. There are 65 characters in the game now so I doubt any character will be over used and in every lobby. If you don't like her or find her too easy pick someone else.

[UnitedStatesofCookies]

Charaxan wrote...

All right.... I am sorry if it has been said, but as this thread has 10 pages, I was not able to read all.

The ting is : I don't know any new character (except maybe the collector and the cabal) who are not OP. Sexbot, Geth Prime and Hulk Krogan are simply three ways to play the game without any problem.

The thing is : I don't care anymore. I was for balance before. I still am. But this dlc is an End. A "bye bye". A gigantic party, a gift from the devs saying "we all just had A BIG FUN to code, conceptualize and play with you."

Basicly, those characters ARE cheating. This game will not endure, it will be finished soon... We have now the material for the Grand Finale, where rules doesn't aplies anymore.

I think the game is dead, now. We play a whole new game, for the fun and the kick, but no more for the build and the credits, and the weapons, etc. The game is dead.

So the question I ask is : do you prefer a quick end with a small statement from devs saying "Hi people, we are closing the servers tomorrow" or do you prefer a huge detonation before the end, the ONE that will be remembered ?

True. I am one of those people who have played the MP right from the start, have invested more time playing it than Uncharted 2 and 3 combined, which had been my go-to games before ME3 came out. I also have maxed my manifest prior to Reckoning.  

I'm all for allowing new players enjoy higher difficulties without becoming too much of a burden to their teammates. If these new kits allow them to do that, I wouldn't mind at all. Less lobby-hopping for me. 

People sometimes forget that newbies don't stay newbies. What's the fun in playing FBWGG all the time or the same kit over and over? New players will learn the ropes after a while as we all did before. An easy-to-master kit will hopefully keep them interested in the game, making it more enjoyable for them and less laggier for all of us, especially at the end of the course of this MP.

[_sigge_]

She is like the TGI. Formidable and boring after a while. Play her for farming and play the rest for fun. Poblem solved.

[NYG1991]

Its kinda funny to watch players get revived by there own grenades into a sync kill.

[USIncorp0]

UnitedStatesofCookies wrote...

Charaxan wrote...

All right.... I am sorry if it has been said, but as this thread has 10 pages, I was not able to read all.

The ting is : I don't know any new character (except maybe the collector and the cabal) who are not OP. Sexbot, Geth Prime and Hulk Krogan are simply three ways to play the game without any problem.

The thing is : I don't care anymore. I was for balance before. I still am. But this dlc is an End. A "bye bye". A gigantic party, a gift from the devs saying "we all just had A BIG FUN to code, conceptualize and play with you."

Basicly, those characters ARE cheating. This game will not endure, it will be finished soon... We have now the material for the Grand Finale, where rules doesn't aplies anymore.

I think the game is dead, now. We play a whole new game, for the fun and the kick, but no more for the build and the credits, and the weapons, etc. The game is dead.

So the question I ask is : do you prefer a quick end with a small statement from devs saying "Hi people, we are closing the servers tomorrow" or do you prefer a huge detonation before the end, the ONE that will be remembered ?

True. I am one of those people who have played the MP right from the start, have invested more time playing it than Uncharted 2 and 3 combined, which had been my go-to games before ME3 came out. I also have maxed my manifest prior to Reckoning.  

I'm all for allowing new players enjoy higher difficulties without becoming too much of a burden to their teammates. If these new kits allow them to do that, I wouldn't mind at all. Less lobby-hopping for me. 

People sometimes forget that newbies don't stay newbies. What's the fun in playing FBWGG all the time or the same kit over and over? New players will learn the ropes after a while as we all did before. An easy-to-master kit will hopefully keep them interested in the game, making it more enjoyable for them and less laggier for all of us, especially at the end of the course of this MP.

The problem with the AIU is that new players become really used to playing badly.
Let's take this example. A new player unlocks the AIU in their first pack. They play several matches with it, and become extremely accustomed to having the instant-win nature of the RM. Then when they start unlocking new characters, they can't play, because they've become too reliant on the crutch that is the AIU. They quickly become bored, and frustrated, and as such, will stop playing the game.

classes like the Kroguard + lolreegar, TGI and AIU are driving away the playerbase, and if we get into a situation where everyone is using the AIU like the pre-nerf Krysae, we have a serious problem.

Also, think of how many classes the AIU makes redundant. Base human infil, is made utterly pointless with this character. Drell infil, AIU can run as fast as him and has better power synergy and a more spammable debuff. TGI? Let's face it, RM is in every way better that Stims. They somehow made the TGI redundant.

Oh BIoware. Why do you have to do this to us?

[Locutus_of_BORG]

Well written, RJ.

Really, EDI has everything going for her, not just her stellar power set. She has a high base speed, good base fitness, good evasion animation, good encumberance, good light melee, fast and strong heavy melee.

[Invader Nemesis]

If they nerf her repair matrix then I demand the krogan warlord's hammer also be nerfed. Just to be fair

[USIncorp0]

Invader Nemesis wrote...

If they nerf her repair matrix then I demand the krogan warlord's hammer also be nerfed. Just to be fair

I support this.

Biotic Hammer is way too ridiculous. The class in general makes the other krogan redundant.