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[curly haired boy]

i'd scrap the free revive for sure, but let me keep my shield regen.

[tfoltz]

She's OP and it's hilarious. I don't believe she should be nerfed though, it's too much fun.

[ahmadsamad]

only nerf edi if Adas is repaired to at least a tolerable status

Modifié par ahmadsamad, 27 février 2013 - 07:26 .

[mybudgee]

She is for kids

[capn233]

I don't see the problem.

I died several times when I tried her out. Reasons were basically:

-I forgot to use repair matrix
-I decided to see if I could tank a couple Atlases and turrets
-I tried to tank a couple primes and pyros

My main strategy for using her was to just run directly at units and shoot at them. I only used the GPS, so I only had enough damage to one-shot Phantoms and Dragoons.

[Madeline Lightning]

RedJohn wrote...

The new DLC is tremendously awesome, new characters with new powers, new weapons, new cool gear, new cool mods, it's a really good product on my opinion.

But as you know, with everything there is an exception.

In this case we have 2.

The edi infiltrator.

The Idea of a Shotgun infiltrator was always good thing for me, I thought ( and still think ) it was a wonderful idea that I liked to see in-game.

Thankfully that day has came.

The EDIbot as we call it is not a bad character, in fact it is too good, TOO good and is not because of tactical cloak's shotgun evolution, no, that's fine, the issue here Repair Matrix.

Repair Matrix gives you damage reduction, speedbonus, FREE revives ( specially this because it gives you back shield gate and make the fitness evolution pointless ) etc etc etc.

Now first of all, I am not the kind of player who complain about if something is OP, if something needs to be nerfed, buffed etc etc, no.

I am writting this because I want to make a very constructive critic, just to improve our experience in game, after all, we are a community united for this game, and I want the game to be properly balanced.

I think Repair Matrix should be changed for the good of the game and this community, i really love what you have done BioWare, you did an amazing job with this DLC and I, as a fan, am very happy to have this new DLC, new powers, weapons etc to give us more variety, and yes, you have done great.

But from my very very humble opinion I think Repair Matrix is breaking the balance we had in the game before Reckoning, and it breaks balance even on the character, because Repair Matrix makes us have 46 medigel just right there if spec'd correctly ( granade capacity and blablabla + 5 op packs = 40 + 6 medigel = 46 ) and that is just without ammo boxes.


The auto revive ability is not a bad idea, what it wasn't correct was maybe give it damage reduction, speedbonus, treat it as a granade ( no need of cooldown ) etc etc, and from my humble opinion, it should be changed, as I said above, it makes the fitness tree totally pointless since you don't have to worry about anything, you will be back to life with damage reduction and with huge speed.

the solution with this character is not taking actions against Cloak or weapons, is just tweaking a little bit Repair Matrix.

With this character cheaters don't have to use hacks to cheat because now we have a legal trainer in the game and I don't mean to fault you the respect BioWare, no, of course not, you don't deserve that, but I am just making a point.

Seriously, the risk-reward relation is erased with this character, could you please take a look at it BioWare?


Any thought BSN?

What will be bad in my opinion is if they nerf it. Not everyone plays at the same skill level, and this character even though I die alot (i guess I suck) makes gold playable ALONE. I have to solo because my connection is terrible. I am tired of all my favorites being impossible or not viable really for me to solo gold and silver is just too easy. This character finaly works for me.

I mean once bioware stops caring about this game pc modders will mod it anyway, but I really rather just see it left alone. All the weapons and characters are unlocked anyway. Everyone I did know a year ago almost that played this, left for other game swith more variety. I still love it, and it's nice there is a character that makes the game fun and I actually at least get halfway into the rounds on a character I like.

If anything they need to bring the destroyer back up a bit and fix put some of the other n7 back to being great. They changed so much ...  Can't wait until this is a game on GOG.com or "that type" were pc modders can eventually make it good.

Modifié par Madeline Lightning, 27 février 2013 - 07:32 .

[ZiRK]

See, when a good player says "theres no need to spec into the health tree" it seems like thats whats been happening, because all ive seen is sexbots on the ground. Repeatedly lol. To a good player, shes beast, to an average pubber, shes another kit.

[TrveOmegaSlayer]

I dunno guyz.
I consider myself a very good gold runner and an average gold runner.
This is the last DLC...after this one comes the death.
Let people play how they want.
If you want more challenge for yourself just try a build that is weaker, use fitness instead of repair matrix...dunno
I haven't tried the class yet, probably I will go for my usual 0 fitness but...let people have fun.
I see you have points RedJ but everytime I see a buff/nerf thread I really think that it's not up to the players to make such request, but it's up to Bioware to collect datas and modify things accordingly.

[FasterThanFTL]

OP in the hands of a few, extremely fun in the hands of everyone else.

[RaptorSolutions]

capn233 wrote...

I don't see the problem.

I died several times when I tried her out. Reasons were basically:

-I forgot to use repair matrix
-I decided to see if I could tank a couple Atlases and turrets
-I tried to tank a couple primes and pyros

My main strategy for using her was to just run directly at units and shoot at them. I only used the GPS, so I only had enough damage to one-shot Phantoms and Dragoons.

lol, I always use RM right before I succesfully escape and not die, while I always forget to RM right before I die. I suppose the bonuses help me survive...

[Impulse and Compulse]

I think it's funny that everybody calling the Infiltrator OP never calls on actual in-game anecdotes.

[lightswitch]

tfoltz wrote...

She's OP and it's hilarious. I don't believe she should be nerfed though, it's too much fun.

edited for better writing

Fun? She's not fun at all. She should have been fun, I like the repurposing of snap freeze from primer to staggering/CC power. But instead this is the most boring kit ever. I just ran a gold solo on the fourth game I ever played with her and it was just ludicrous. I was doing idiotic things like running into the middle of the square on London surrounded by two Ravagers and three Marauders and it just didn't matter.

The stupid insta-revive sucks all the fun right out of this kit, and because of it I'll probably never play her. She's just not interesting or entertaining. She doesn't feel good to play because you know it doesn't matter how you play her, you'll be fine.

Seriously, the only other time I saw someone just getting up immediately after they died an infinite number of times was because they were cheating.

Modifié par lightswitch, 27 février 2013 - 07:37 .

[MajorStupidity]

I genuinely believe BW made this character so brokenly powerful on purpose...I mean they already have the TGI as experience with infiltrators who have a grenade power that makes them extremely durable. How in the world could they not have predicted how powerful this character would be.

Modifié par MajorStupidity, 27 février 2013 - 07:36 .

[RaptorSolutions]

lightswitch wrote...

tfoltz wrote...

She's OP and it's hilarious. I don't believe she should be nerfed though, it's too much fun.

Fun? She's not fun at all. She should have been fun, I like the repurposing of snap freeze from primer to staggering/CC power. But instead this is the most boring kit ever. I just ran a gold solo on the fourth game I ever played with her and it was just ludicrous. I was doing idiotic things like running into the middle of the square on London surrounded by two Ravagers and three Marauders and it just didn't matter. The stupid insta-revive takes all the fun out of the game.

Seriously, the only other time I saw someone just getting up immediately after they died an infinite number of times was because they were cheating.

Right... you do know you can spec out of RM right?

[Tallgeese_VII]

This bot needs player's own restriction.
Everyone do backflip once after each gun shoot and power use please.

[Brownfinger]

Mr SeVerS wrote...

 To a good player, shes beast, to an average pubber, shes another kit.

Just like any other kit.
So, I guess the issue that people have is she posesses tools that elevate her when guided by someone with skill. I'm content with that.

The more I've played, the more I've seen some "meh" people playing one. So, maybe she's safe for a bit.

[RaptorSolutions]

Tallgeese_VII wrote...

This bot needs player's own restriction.
Everyone do backflip once after each gun shoot and power use please.

Doesn't the backflip grant DR? Actually doing that might help me be more survivable... Hmmm...

[Apl_Juice]

Eh, I can tolerate a lot of things, the AIU included. But how in the holy hell did she get released along side kits like the Talon? Did no one look at these two and see the MASSIVE effectiveness disparity between them? I'm trying to wrap my brain around it, and I cannot come to a logical conclusion.

[Feneckus]

caineghis2500 wrote...

+1 The free revive needs to be deleted or nerfed to where it's only usable once in a match. Everything else is fine

Everything else is fine ? 

How can it be fine that she has Drell speed, awesome dodges, damage reduction, shield regen, shotgun tactical cloak, a debuff and a lightning quick melee that actually does more damage than the Krogan Warlord's ?

Basically, the only thing she's missing is accuracy bonuses.

What the hell does it take to be considered OP on BSN ? Seriously ? 

Modifié par Feneckus, 27 février 2013 - 07:40 .

[lightswitch]

RaptorSolutions wrote...

lightswitch wrote...

tfoltz wrote...

She's OP and it's hilarious. I don't believe she should be nerfed though, it's too much fun.

Fun? She's not fun at all. She should have been fun, I like the repurposing of snap freeze from primer to staggering/CC power. But instead this is the most boring kit ever. I just ran a gold solo on the fourth game I ever played with her and it was just ludicrous. I was doing idiotic things like running into the middle of the square on London surrounded by two Ravagers and three Marauders and it just didn't matter. The stupid insta-revive takes all the fun out of the game.

Seriously, the only other time I saw someone just getting up immediately after they died an infinite number of times was because they were cheating.

Right... you do know you can spec out of RM right?

Yeah. I know. It's just...the whole thing blows my mind.

[RaptorSolutions]

lightswitch wrote...

RaptorSolutions wrote...

lightswitch wrote...

tfoltz wrote...

She's OP and it's hilarious. I don't believe she should be nerfed though, it's too much fun.

Fun? She's not fun at all. She should have been fun, I like the repurposing of snap freeze from primer to staggering/CC power. But instead this is the most boring kit ever. I just ran a gold solo on the fourth game I ever played with her and it was just ludicrous. I was doing idiotic things like running into the middle of the square on London surrounded by two Ravagers and three Marauders and it just didn't matter. The stupid insta-revive takes all the fun out of the game.

Seriously, the only other time I saw someone just getting up immediately after they died an infinite number of times was because they were cheating.

Right... you do know you can spec out of RM right?

Yeah. I know. It's just...the whole thing blows my mind.

True, but you can always look at it as extra points you can put elsewhere. The more I think about it the more tempting it sounds actually. If I spec out of RM then I can get more damage from passives along with survivability/melee boosts from fitness.

[ahmadsamad]

Does it matter? If you are using EDI in a bad team maybe you can run gold in16-18 minutes. Using other characters maybe it takes 20-22 minutes. Several minutes different is not that significance. Most of the characters in the MP are OP anyway -drell assasin (with its OP recon mine) in particular

Modifié par ahmadsamad, 27 février 2013 - 07:47 .

[Amusingthree93]

As long as they dont touch my snap freeze or tactical cloak (again), I wouldnt really mind a repair matrix nerf. Indeed I would applaud it.

[peddroelm]

Feneckus wrote...
..
 a lightning quick melee that actually does more damage than the Krogan Warlord's ?
..

I seriously doubt that ... Have a little faith in the power based elemental echantments added to his melee attacks ...

[Steppenwolf]

doozerdude wrote...

RedJohn wrote...

doozerdude wrote...

tl;dr?

Now I know the reason of all your posts, you never read the OP.

No, just glance. If it looks interesting I read it; however if it looks longwinded and could simply be replaced with "this kit is OP cuz A and B, pls nerf", then I don't botther=]

"Reading is hard, guys. I'm too busy to do it."