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[N7Kopper]

Did a Gold solo on Ghost against Collectors with her... while unprepared, doing U/U/G, and expecting joiners before wave 2. I don't think she was even level 20. Speaks for itself, really.

Here's my opinion. Nerf Repair Matrix's duration to about 5 secods (maximum around 7) and make it incompatible with Grenade Capacity gear. Maybe buff the shield regen a tiny touch after that to compensate. It't just be so much more fun to pop Matrix at the right time to escape a jam, rather than "trololol I am invincible gorgeous robot lady"

[tCruzin4lyfe]

I can't believe (well actually I can) how bad the community still is about nerfing. A few posters have already said this but I will again, do NOT use the kit, that simple. If you want to use the kit then spec out of Repair Matrix, it's not that serious. It's a co-op game that's suppose to be fun for "everyone". It's a shame that this is the last DLC and Bioware gives us some great characters but most of the threads are about "nerfing" and "op".
Also, I don't know what people are thinking but these so-called Easy Mode Kits do not help the randoms I see on Xbox. I rarely see a TGI or GI stay alive and I'm sure this kit will be the same.

[Mad Scientist]

Feneckus wrote...

joker_jack wrote...

Plus there is still the lag with this power much like stim and ops packs.

It has a 15s base duration. Unless you have a 15s lag, you should be ok.

What you fail and refuse to see is the how the infiltrator class really functions. You miss entirely how BW specs what is effectively a rouge class for this game.

I'm not sure we can apply this to ME, but whatever. The sexbot is essentially the rogue (high DPS), tank (can absord punishment) and support (can debuff and revive) all at the same time ...

She's far more durable than a Krogan Sentinel while dealing more damage than the Human Soldier.

Nothing anyone will say will change you're mind, no different than anyone else on bsn who think they are entitled to didctate to other players and dev how to play. You're entitled to nothing but the abilty to play or shelve the game and leave the world in blessed peace.

I don't really care whether BW nerfs that kit or not. I just hate it when people have the nerve to argue that it's not OP.

Let's not blow it out of proportion. DPS, sure. Tank? Don't be ridiculous. She may have more shields than some other kits but that doesn't make her a tank. Shield regen doesn't help against burst damage. A single marauder can still kill you in a blink of an eye. The issue here is virtually unlimited revives, which is overpowered in my book. And support? Any kit can revive and debuff.

[immanji]

this whole time I was having so much fun when I should have felt guilty. Damn I'm a bad person. Aw shucks.

[shnig_1]

I concede that the edi bot is op, but I don't want her nerfed anyway. I'm sick of nerfs, just leave her alone plz. Yes it becomes a scrub class, but does it really matter at this point

[Draining Dragon]

Tread lightly, my friend, lest you spark the rage of the stupid people of BSN.

[january42]

What's kinda funny is the people who  are calling for nerfs are probably those who would get the least use out of the skill.  Redjohn and Feneckus can probably go a whole game without actually having the revive trigger.


It's a ghost with training wheels, not a ravening force of destruction.

Modifié par january42, 27 février 2013 - 12:58 .

[Cheylus]

Agreed. I think I will nerf this kit myself by not using an overpowered weapon and by takind Duration only for TC. What bothers me is that it gives me too much points to spend in Repair Matrix...

[N7-RedFox]

I was playing EDI-bot on Glacier /Platinum/ Cerberus earlier this morning and even with her awesome survival ability, i was still being shield-gated like hell by phantoms and dragoons. Yes EDI-bot is OP at the moment, i will admit that. But the Phantoms shieldgating palm cannon needs fixing before EDI gets a nerf. This would benefit ALL kits.

Also, the fact that Phantoms get 90% DR all the time vs whoever is hosting DEFINATELY needs a remedy. I don't want to have to play off-host just to get a fair game vs Cerberus.

[mistervirginia]

the kit JUST came out, guys. really, we already have opinions like these, after ONE day?
these threads just don't make sense to me. she's the only kit i played yesterday to try and get a feel for her and yet i still don't feel i have one.

regardless, going into a Gold match with only a Gear Mod and i couldn't carry the team. we wiped on Wave 9 against Cerberus. if what you say is true about this kit, this wouldn't have happened.

[xx DJ ONE xx]

RedJohn wrote...

...Solid, informative criticism...


Any thought BSN?

(In Tom Hanks voice in Saving Private Ryan)  "Now, this is the way to gripe. Continue, Jackson RedJohn"

Modifié par xx DJ ONE xx, 27 février 2013 - 01:05 .

[Cheylus]

mistervirginia wrote...

the kit JUST came out, guys. really, we already have opinions like these, after ONE day?
these threads just don't make sense to me. she's the only kit i played yesterday to try and get a feel for her and yet i still don't feel i have one.

regardless, going into a Gold match with only a Gear Mod and i couldn't carry the team. we wiped on Wave 9 against Cerberus. if what you say is true about this kit, this wouldn't have happened.

The fact is that you have two powers that we already know, and a grenade that revives yourself. You don't need experience with her, it's enough to look at her powers (can't say the same for the Cabal or the AC for example). 

If you are accustomed to Tactical Cloak, Infiltrators in general, if you know how good Snap Freeze is, you can have this opinion after one day and even one match,... and even before having played with it. 
This kit should have had another grenade, like Cryo Grenades (Cryo Blast with an area of effect?), so you would have to choose between survivability and debuff. 
I'm not calling for a nerf myself, I've always thought that if you think a kit should be nerfed, you can still do it yourself. 

[MADDPADD]

january42 wrote...

What's kinda funny is the people who  are calling for nerfs are probably those who would get the least use out of the skill.  Redjohn and Feneckus can probably go a whole game without actually having the revive trigger.


It's a ghost with training wheels, not a ravening force of destruction.

L33t players with fragile Epeen worried that lesser skilled players might be able to have fun on higher difficultys.

[Freskione2]

VII Revenant wrote...

She's beautiful. Leave her alone!

This, this, this...everyone always wants to ruin a good thing on here UGH. Let her be for more than a frekkin day at least!!!!

[Old Books]

tCruzin4lyfe wrote...

I can't believe (well actually I can) how bad the community still is about nerfing. A few posters have already said this but I will again, do NOT use the kit, that simple. If you want to use the kit then spec out of Repair Matrix, it's not that serious. It's a co-op game that's suppose to be fun for "everyone". It's a shame that this is the last DLC and Bioware gives us some great characters but most of the threads are about "nerfing" and "op".
Also, I don't know what people are thinking but these so-called Easy Mode Kits do not help the randoms I see on Xbox. I rarely see a TGI or GI stay alive and I'm sure this kit will be the same.

[Watta Hell]

I don't like the idea nerfing a character even before some us have had a chance to try it out. Calls for nerfing have become a kind of competition here on bsn, and that's really pathetic! Let people play the game and enjoy it, you don't have to play the character it you don't like it. (I, for example, don't play many characters, but I don't call for nerfing or buffing them.)
I suggest you also have more fun with ME3, it is not a competition!

[cronshaw]

I haven't played her yet only had time for five matches after I downloaded the DLC.
Guess I better get on that tonight before the hammer comes down.

[IamZAE]

 As a player who looooves the reegar. Looooves infiltrators, shotguns and debuff anything cheap.. i took this girl out on a spin... It honestly didn't feel like I was playing mass effect.. It felt more like rio reapers box camp with a volus...
that repair matrix needs to drop instant revive... Even then it'll be an amazing kit... But instant revive... I was staying in the hazard reactor for Luls... Also I would intentionally draw Agro from as many enemies as possible. Cuz they would fire at me while my teammates go gungnam style on em and I always get back up with my el oh el reeeeegaarrrrrrrr

Modifié par IamZAE, 27 février 2013 - 01:17 .

[mistervirginia]

Cheylus wrote...

mistervirginia wrote...

the kit JUST came out, guys. really, we already have opinions like these, after ONE day?
these threads just don't make sense to me. she's the only kit i played yesterday to try and get a feel for her and yet i still don't feel i have one.

regardless, going into a Gold match with only a Gear Mod and i couldn't carry the team. we wiped on Wave 9 against Cerberus. if what you say is true about this kit, this wouldn't have happened.

The fact is that you have two powers that we already know, and a grenade that revives yourself. You don't need experience with her, it's enough to look at her powers (can't say the same for the Cabal or the AC for example). 

If you are accustomed to Tactical Cloak, Infiltrators in general, if you know how good Snap Freeze is, you can have this opinion after one day and even one match,... and even before having played with it. 
This kit should have had another grenade, like Cryo Grenades (Cryo Blast with an area of effect?), so you would have to choose between survivability and debuff. 
I'm not calling for a nerf myself, I've always thought that if you think a kit should be nerfed, you can still do it yourself. 

i don't believe this to be true, but i see how you would think that.
i personally have never been good with the Paladin or Snap Freeze.  it wasn't until i played with this kit that i realized it's potential.  but even with something like Cryo Grenades instead of Snap Freeze, i would've still spec'd her the same.  the problem here with this kit is not Repair Matrix, it's the fact that you can use Cloak, then debuff, then kill everything around you.  even if Insta-Revive is taken out of Repair Matrix, it won't make any difference.  once i, and others, really get the hang of her we won't even need it.  this guy (or Robot) would have to go back to the drawing board to please the majority of BSN unfortunately.

Modifié par mistervirginia, 27 février 2013 - 01:22 .

[ShinTheZero]

While I don't have the AIU, but I can already tell on her powers and passives (through Videos known) that she is pretty much the best Infiltrator, topping GI and TGI.

Shotgun TC makes any of the high-powered ones extremly powerful (Claymore, Wraith etc.) and she has above that Snap Freeze for decent debuff (and TE/CE).

But those Repair Matrix are just OP. Not only are they pretty much altered Versions of the Stim packs, they also revive the AIU, when she is down. This is ridicilious, it's pretty much 7 free medigels.

[Clips7]

tCruzin4lyfe wrote...

I can't believe (well actually I can) how bad the community still is about nerfing. A few posters have already said this but I will again, do NOT use the kit, that simple. If you want to use the kit then spec out of Repair Matrix, it's not that serious. It's a co-op game that's suppose to be fun for "everyone". It's a shame that this is the last DLC and Bioware gives us some great characters but most of the threads are about "nerfing" and "op".
Also, I don't know what people are thinking but these so-called Easy Mode Kits do not help the randoms I see on Xbox. I rarely see a TGI or GI stay alive and I'm sure this kit will be the same.

QFT.....i cannot believe all of these nerf threads. There comes a time when some criticisms are warranted and issues need to be looked at (talon mercs arrows and buggy cain mines) but complaining about overpowered characters? And stop complaining, because some of us don't even have all of these kits yet and we may not want these nerfs you're complaining about.

[mistervirginia]

also, what's the diff between Repair Matrix and just equipping Responder Loadout??? they both equal more medigels.

[Dark Tlaloc]

I'm conflicted on this one; I have no interest in playing another infiltrator (haven't even specced out my sexbot yet), but if she's that powerful, I almost wish I had played her BEFORE hearing about her.

The sad thing is, I played with multiple people who used her, and I had no sense that she was any more powerful than any other kit, since they weren't exactly tearing up the scoreboard, nor were they staying alive particularly well. So maybe, as with the TGI and others, bad players are still going to play badly with it?

[MstrJedi Kyle]

The complaint seems to be that the AIU will allow less skilled players to play Gold and Plat, but isn't that a good thing? For those of us that have been here since the beginning think back over this past year. How many threads are made everyday complaining about a less skilled player with a less powerful weapon messing up some one's Gold, and later down the road, Platinum games?

This has been going on since the beginning of the MP. Long before the Kroguard, the GI, the TGI , and now the AUI. Less skilled players have plagued your Gold/Plat games for almost a year now. That is a year's worth of complaints and new players performing less than satisfactory, leading to long or even possibly failed games.

Now we have these "OP" kits that "break" the game. Allowing new players to perform better in higher difficulties and this is a bad thing? These kits allow new players to play at higher difficulties and be less of a liability. Good players remain good players and new players become less of a hindrance. You complain when they don't perform well enough, and you complain when they are given tools to allow them to keep up.

[Cheylus]

mistervirginia wrote...

also, what's the diff between Repair Matrix and just equipping Responder Loadout??? they both equal more medigels.

You can refill the Repair Matrix at will.