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Darth Obvious wrote...

catofnine wrote...

I do have to ask...what exactly is Bodahn's accent? Always found it strange that the dwarves sound American and he doesn't.


Yes!

I just love the way he says, "You and your friends are formidable folk, indeed."

It's Bodahtious!  :P


LIsten to his rumors, then go listen to the rumors from the Innkeeper in Denerim.   I wondered why the tone of his voice changed...

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Ambeth wrote...

My take is
a) the devs wanted to use accent to indicate what 'group' any particular character was 'from'.

B) while one person CAN make up his or her own accent, getting OTHERS to speak with it is... problematic. Thus, the devs simply went with existing accents.

Makes sense to me.


Precisely !B)

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Ambeth wrote...

Darth Obvious wrote...

catofnine wrote...
I do have to ask...what exactly is Bodahn's accent? Always found it strange that the dwarves sound American and he doesn't.

I just love the way he says, "You and your friends are formidable folk, indeed."

LIsten to his rumors, then go listen to the rumors from the Innkeeper in Denerim.   I wondered why the tone of his voice changed...


Bodahn (and any other innkeeper sharing rumours!) sounds kind of Australian to me. But I do have a bit of a tin ear when it comes to accents.

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North Americans tend to associate British accents with wealth and privilege. So naturally, considering how humans are in a position of power in the DA universe with all the nobles scurrying about, it makes sense to have them speak in a British accent.

Modifié par Dick Delaware, 11 janvier 2010 - 08:16 .


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Darth Obvious wrote...

Funny, my Spanish-speaking friends who play this game don't think it sounds Spanish at all...


 The moment I heard Zevran, I had to alt tab to check the credits to confirm whether it was Antonio Banderas or not.

 I think he rather meant "Spain-ish" Spanish, not, you know, that other place.

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Dick Delaware wrote...

North Americans tend to associate British accents with wealth and privilege. So naturally, considering how humans are in a position of power in the DA universe with all the nobles scurrying about, it makes sense to have them speak in a British accent.


Call me crazy, but I'm pretty sure most people I know associate British accents with British people...

I've lived on the East coast, West coast, North, South...

Never heard of that stereotype.

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Kalduin wrote...

Darth Obvious wrote...

Funny, my Spanish-speaking friends who play this game don't think it sounds Spanish at all...


 The moment I heard Zevran, I had to alt tab to check the credits to confirm whether it was Antonio Banderas or not.

 I think he rather meant "Spain-ish" Spanish, not, you know, that other place.


I always though it was a faked spanish accent. Or if it wasn't faked then "embelished." By this I mean, that even if the actor is hispanic, his normal accent might not be spanish-sounding enough for Zevran so he made it more spanish sounding. Since my parents are mexican, and I speak spanish fluently, I'm pretty good at spotting inconsistencies in accents, Zevran's is only slightly inconsistent.

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The Brits are often associated with tradition and chivalry. Maybe thats the reasen they used it for the humans.
But like others said I generally would not expect a special intention behind the different accents.

@Darth Obvious
In the 3 old Star Wars movies the Empire = Third Reich  not British Empire

Modifié par Bfler, 11 janvier 2010 - 08:32 .


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Darth Obvious

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Kalduin wrote...

Darth Obvious wrote...

Funny, my Spanish-speaking friends who play this game don't think it sounds Spanish at all...


 The moment I heard Zevran, I had to alt tab to check the credits to confirm whether it was Antonio Banderas or not.

 I think he rather meant "Spain-ish" Spanish, not, you know, that other place.


Wow, you are hearing similarities, while I am hearing only differences. I don't think he sounds much like Banderas at all. His trills aren't quite the same and his accents are very much different. Just listen to the way Zevran says "Dalish" and "gloves", for example, or "assassinate", etc. 

Lots of Euproean languages trill their R's, and it is a common misconception that those who do so are from one of the Romance Language groups. Again, I've yet to meet a native speaker of any of these languages who thinks it sounds anything like Spanish or Italian.

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Bfler wrote...

The Brits are often associated with tradition and chivalry. Maybe thats the reasen they used it for the humans.
But like others said I generally would not expect a special intention behind the different accents.

@Darth Obvious
In the 3 old Star Wars movies the Empire = Third Reich  not British Empire


Actually it was both. Lucas drew upon multiple influences.

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Well as this is meant to be set in Medieval Times (USA did not even exists) most of the people in power would sound like Romans as there be the ones that would have been in power around that time :D, but your see that the English language is very diverse if you go places in England that is not on the tourist boards…

Just look at some of these films too see the differences





http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B-NnQQRJki4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q8jbt0wBkMI



My Fav (18+ in the last 1 second bad word :P)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fc0kPAPNahU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qksndNDMDOw

Dose this game sound English :S


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It is obvious that Dwarves were neglected! Where's the Scottish Accent???? =)

Zev's got an Italian-like accent not Spanish. More to Marcello Mastroianni than Antonio Banderas!

Modifié par RageGT, 11 janvier 2010 - 09:10 .


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Hmm...

sounds interessting. When I've finished my first playthrough, I'll really give it a try it in english. Ok, ... I fear I won't figure them out, but if there are so many differences it could be a good training. I've to admit, I like games and movies more in the original (english) language, but sometimes it's really hard to catch everything, especially if you've never heard the dialogues in "your" language.

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catofnine wrote...

I do have to ask...what exactly is Bodahn's accent? Always found it strange that the dwarves sound American and he doesn't.

Generic north London, to my ears; occasionally I think I can hear a hint of Midlands (as in Birmingham or thereabouts: the one in England :P) in there, but I may just be imagining it.  I knew someone with a very similar accent a while back and found myself sometimes struggling to place his with certainty, too, but unfortunately I never asked.

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Compare this:



Rugby player - Football player



I dont think that the average height and weight goes in favor of the Rugby boys *g

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Darth Obvious wrote...

I couldn't help but notice that most of not all the Ferelden humans in this game speak with a British accent (and presumably Orlais humans sound French like Leliana), and most if not all the elves seem to speak with an American accent (except Zevran, whose accent sounds eastern-European). Dwarves are mostly American-sounding, except for Bodahn who sounds Australian or something...

Thoughts? Comments?

In Star Wars, the British accent is tied mostly to the Empire, and the American accent is tied to the rebels. This is a corollary to the British Empire and the American Revolutionaries.

In DA, the British accent corresponds mostly to those belonging to the kingdom of Ferelden, and the American-sounding elves are like second-class citizens.

Coincidence?


There is no "British" accent, in fact there's no country called Britain. I assume you are probably referring to the "Queens English" as it's known. It probably stands out because it was intended to be clear and easily understood (Even the peasantry speak it, with that twang of commoner). It's probably the lack of (strong) accent which makes people assume it's "British".

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Zevran's accent is Antivan -- so it should sound Southern European, not Eastern European. Antiva appears to be modeled as a pseudo-Southern-European country.

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Ive just got to say, as an Australian i never found Bodahn accent the least bit Aussie.



Also are we al playing in the same language?

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Jowan seems to have an Aussie accent though, although it seems like it was trying to be intentionally suppressed.

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novaseeker wrote...

Jowan seems to have an Aussie accent though, although it seems like it was trying to be intentionally suppressed.


I never eard one peeking through, so it must have been suppressed damn well.

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AntiChri5 wrote...

Ive just got to say, as an Australian i never found Bodahn accent the least bit Aussie.

Also are we al playing in the same language?


Bodahn's accent is just... weird. Seriously, it's all over the place. Sometimes the voice actor can't keep it up and the accent just turns into something else for a bit :D

All the same, I do like his voice. And I can see why some people might think it sounds a bit Aussie but really it's a mixture of a few. It often sounds Brummie, in my opinion (which for those who aren't British is the accent of some one from Birmingham).

As well as the innkeeper in Denerim, Bodahn also shares a voice with the innkeeper in Lothering. I've noticed that if you exhaust the Lothering Innkeeper's supply of Rumours, when you first ask Bodahn if he has heard any, he will reply, 'Well... I dunno what to tell you', because all the rumours in that voice have already been used up :)

Modifié par Obtusifolius, 11 janvier 2010 - 09:24 .


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Obtusifolius wrote...

All the same, I do like his voice. And I can see why some people might think it sounds a bit Aussie but really it's a mixture of a few. It often sounds Brummie, in my opinion (which for those who aren't British is the accent of some one from Birmingham).

I'm glad someone else can hear that, too.  I should really ask the local Brummie what her opinion is, since I'm from neither Birmingham nor London and don't have a great ear for accents myself.

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vometia wrote...

I'm glad someone else can hear that, too.  I should really ask the local Brummie what her opinion is, since I'm from neither Birmingham nor London and don't have a great ear for accents myself.


It's a fake accent though, so the best we can do is try and conjecture what accent he is trying to do :whistle:

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I don't find Bodhan's as North London.. I would certainly say more midlands. Then again I usually don't pay too much attention to him, maybe if I listen to him again.

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More like elves = native americans for Dalish, poor minorities in the city