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[Descartian]

Obtusifolius, you MUST ask your SA friends to send you some Rooibos tea, the best tasting tea in the world and also has lot's of health and medicinal uses. It's only grown in Western Cape, SA. But maybe you can get it in London somewhere

FlintlockJazz, you might want to try it as well. You can trust me on this one, like Minsc his hamster

Modifié par Descartian, 12 janvier 2010 - 02:45 .

[FlintlockJazz]

Obtusifolius wrote...

FlintlockJazz wrote...
Damn right!  Now make me some more tea!  *Dies from the poison in the tea*

I love tea. I've been up an hour and a half and I'm on my third or fourth cup

Tea helps improve Moral Fibre, which increases combat effectiveness by 20 to 60 percent, as discovered by scientists in the British Space Empire (BSE)!  More tea the better, so drink up!

(Sorry, been reading the Chronicles of Isambard Smith books and been getting carried away. )

[FlintlockJazz]

Obtusifolius wrote...

FlintlockJazz wrote...

adembroski11 wrote...

Profeteering... typical. I guess we shouldn't have been providing you guys weapons so you could hold off the Germans, eh?

At any rate, I did include a smilie indicating it was a good natured rib. I'm sorry that it caused you patriotic discomfort.

Well, what did you expect?  Thanks for dragging us into France?  Don't you realise there's *gulp* French people there?!  Took us ages to get rid of the cheese smell!

(To any French people, don't worry I'm not being serious and besides, your women are hawt!  )

There's no 'us' or 'we', unless you guys actually took part in these events, so stop being so spiky

I was there!  Being British, I'm naturally good friends with the Doctor, who gave me a lift back to the 1940s just so that I could refer to myself when talking of the war.  Of course, it being the Doctor he insisted that I wore women's clothing like all his assistants, but then cross-dressing is a British tradition!

[ReddGrave]

Americans are stuck up slobs. So I disagree.

[FlintlockJazz]

Obtusifolius wrote...
No no, your comments are very sensible. I've often wondered why I'm such a fantastic person

Well, now you know!  And you got the perfect excuse to continue drinking!

[FlintlockJazz]

Obtusifolius wrote...

FlintlockJazz wrote...

Obtusifolius wrote...
No no, your comments are very sensible. I've often wondered why I'm such a fantastic person

Well, now you know!  And you got the perfect excuse to continue drinking!

True, that. As if I needed one

Plus I don't take sugar so I ain't gonna rot my teeth :innocent:

Oh I can never drink tea with sugar in it, completely destroys the taste!  When I see friends putting sugar in I'm like "Why?  Why would you destroy such a perfect brew?!"

[JackDresden]

Darth Obvious wrote...

I couldn't help but notice that most of not all the Ferelden humans in this game speak with a British accent (and presumably Orlais humans sound French like Leliana), and most if not all the elves seem to speak with an American accent (except Zevran, whose accent sounds eastern-European). Dwarves are mostly American-sounding, except for Bodahn who sounds Australian or something...

Thoughts? Comments?

In Star Wars, the British accent is tied mostly to the Empire, and the American accent is tied to the rebels. This is a corollary to the British Empire and the American Revolutionaries.

In DA, the British accent corresponds mostly to those belonging to the kingdom of Ferelden, and the American-sounding elves are like second-class citizens.

Coincidence?

Really  hadn't noticed this and I am British, I would have said most humans had fairly neutral accents tending towards America. Hadn't really tried identifying all the accents though I thought Duncan for example was an American voice actor.

In any case I don't think there is some hidden coded message here, it is just what it is who they happened to cast in what role, though I think they have tried to give non-fereldan humans different accents for the feel of the game.

[Descartian]

Alrighty then, Flint and Obtus, I can send you both a box of Rooibos tea, just let me know

[Descartian]

Well I have a sweet tooth or two and always take 4 sugars in my tea and coffee. Glucose is the only source of food for the brain and I really need it with the amount of brain cells I kill sometimes :-)

[Valmy]

Wait so the elves didn't have an Edmonton Accent? I thought they were saying Canadians are the elves of the modern world.

[Darth Obvious]

Jonny_Evil wrote...

Really? A "British" accent would by it's very nature include people who speak Gaelic and Welsh, my example was chosen with this in mind to display the ludicrous nature of lumping different countries with different languages together under one accent.

Every other english speaking nation seems capable of discerning an English accent without confusing themselves because "they also speak english". The concept of a "British" accent has become entrenched in America for some reason, but that doesn't mean it's accurate or right or should continue.

You are completely missing the point.

It is just what we call it. It is a name to represent something, since it would literally make no sense to us to call it an English accent.

In OUR language, we call the accent "British". You may not like it, but that's how it is. And of course we are not referring to Welsh or Gaelic.

You know, if you are familiar with American history, you would know that Paul Revere said, "The British are coming!" Guess what? No one thought he was referring to Gaelic tribes, now did they? That would be absurd.

I certainly don't believe Americans lack the mental capacity to cope with the concept of their main language coming from another country with the same name, as you seem to suggest.

Ok, this is starting to get sad.

What in the world are you talking about? I never said any such thing. You are completely misconstruing everything I have been trying to explain.

It's just a word, dude. Get over it.

[Copyright Theft]

Gah, people mention Birmingham accents reminded me:



Just be glad Simon Templeman didn't use THAT accent for Laghain >.<

Modifié par Copyright Theft, 12 janvier 2010 - 04:05 .

[Darth Obvious]

adembroski11 wrote...

In the U.S., I can generally identify most of the dialects and accents. I can't really tell southwestern (Colorado, Arizona) vs. northwestern (Minnesota, Michigan),

Well, there is really no such thing as a southwestern accent. A huge percentage of those who live in states like Arizona and Nevada are transplants from other places (as I was when I lived there), so the people there tend to have the standard American accent (or what we would call "no accent").

but West Coast, New England, North Eastern, Southern, Texas Southern, etc. are fairly easily identifyable. Canadian accents are seem to have an upwards inflection at the end of the sentence that gives it away.

Lets start with the easy ones: Southern accents. There are differences, for example, as those in South Carolina sound different than those in Texas. I live in North Carolina, and we are so urbanized now that I don't know anyone here or in Virginia that still have southern accents. Florida is also an exception, since most of the urban areas are populated by people who are not really southerners (many transplants). And of course around Louisiana you have the cajun accent.

The upper midwest: Minnesota, Dakotas, Wisconsin. Not very common, but popularized by the film 'Fargo'. I've never actually known anyone to speak that way.

Boston: again it is less common than in decades past, but it is easily identifiable.

New York/New Jersey: variations here, but if you've ever known anyone from the Bronx, you have a pretty good idea of the gist of this one.

Chicago: not as intense as New York or Boston, but still a style of its own.

The rest: well, the "standard" American accent is spoken from Alaska to Florida, from Maine to California. It is standard all across the east, north, midwest, great plains, intermountain west, and west coast. The vast majority of Americans speak with this accent (again, in the context of American English, we would call it "no accent").

[Jonny_Evil]

Darth Obvious wrote...

What in the world are you talking about? I never said any such thing. You are completely misconstruing everything I have been trying to explain.

It's just a word, dude. Get over it.

Just look at the thread:

"I think dwarves should have scottish accents"

"The humans have british accents"

It's not just a word, you're ignoring the existence of my nationality as much as if I called all Americans Canadian, and you are utterly missing every point I've made. "The British are coming" is fair enough, as there would have been Welsh, Irish and Scottish troops alongside the English ones. A "British" accent is bloody annoying because Welsh, Scottish and Irish accents are recognised but an English accent is "British". Then you tell me that it's called a British accent instead of an English accent because Americans speak english and therefore somehow can't cope with an accent going by the same name even though everyone else in the english speaking world manages okay?

It's not your language, Britain and England are entirely seperate things. While the concept of a "British" accent is the norm in America because the average American knows little about the countries of the British Isles, being told by several English people that such an accent doesn't exist and then continuing to argue that it does is just wrong.

I spent years living in the heartland of Scottish nationalism, and while I've adopted their concept of breaking the Union and going independant I also had to put up with years of anti-english racism that wasn't racism because "You're English and you can't be racist against the English". So forgive me if the whole England=Britain thing makes me grouchy.

[Darth Obvious]

Obtusifolius wrote...

I'm not sure I really get the gist of this argument as it is meant to be gotten, but I don't think it is unreasonable to use either/or. Any accent where the speaker is native to Britain is British. Welsh accents are British, as are Northern Irish and Scottish (and of course English). I cannot see how it is offensive or incorrect to call an English accent a British accent, since it is one. 

Exactly. It's just a descriptive term to describe that accent. I think I can speak for most Americans in that we would find it odd that anyone could possibly take offense at something so benign.

[Jonny_Evil]

Darth Obvious wrote...

Obtusifolius wrote...

I'm
not sure I really get the gist of this argument as it is meant to be
gotten, but I don't think it is unreasonable to use either/or. Any
accent where the speaker is native to Britain is British. Welsh accents
are British, as are Northern Irish and Scottish (and of course
English). I cannot see how it is offensive or incorrect to call an
English accent a British accent, since it is one. 

Exactly.
It's just a descriptive term to describe that accent. I think I can
speak for most Americans in that we would find it odd that anyone could
possibly take offense at something so benign.

Just treat it as any other race issue. A white person might not make a distinction between a dark Latino and an African American, but they might, and this is similar. Many English might not give a damn, but some do and when one asks you to stop it's courtesy to stop and not argue semantics.

Modifié par Jonny_Evil, 12 janvier 2010 - 04:44 .